dublin should be burned down.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Interesting... now all I have to do is put aside enough time for a three hour plus round trip to get there...

RuggieBear

Dublin is ok. Tis not the best nor the worst town in the world.

As for comparing it to an english midland town....have you ever been to a midland town? Dublin is nothing like them.

I lived in Leicester for a year and visited other towns like nottingham and derby. They are all complete and total **** holes. Nottingham is a ****ing awful dangerous little place while leicester is basically a town built within a massive roundabout....

lightening

Ikky Poo2 wrote:

Interesting... now all I have to do is put aside enough time for a three hour plus round trip to get there...

Yep. make time for yourself. Cant blame Dublin if you don't have time..

ScumLord

lightening wrote:

Yeah!! "yes mad muckers" That would have gone down a treat....

I did say hello to the nearest guy, he just smiled at his mate and shook his head. It was in Tuam in Galway...

That's Tuam for ya. Most other small towns in the area are allot friendlier, I had two couchsurfers staying with me from Finland that put my town as the best fun they had in Ireland.

I've never been a big fan of Dublin but I came into Dublin docks one day and had to drive from there through the city and it really made me want to spend a few days in Dublin. Dubliners do tend to look down there noses at the rest of the country, Dubliners that have never moved out of the city in their lifes shouldn't be so full of themselfs .There is allot of Violence one of the times I got lost in the car up there (what happens the signpost once you get into Dublin, actually it's common in every Irish city/big town, they just disappear and your on your own) it was mid day on a busy street and 2 guys where beating the crap out of someone on the street and people where just walking by like nothing was happening.

I've been around Europe and spent a week in most of the main citys and I have to say my favourite city is still Galway.

lightening

Have to agree with you there... Signposting is dreadful, got lost a few times myself.

However I really really don't think most Dubs look down their noses at the rest of the country. Maybe you just think they do.

Galway city is great fun allright. I have seen fights there too.

Scumlord, spend a weekend in Dublin, do the touristy things, you will be pleasantly surprised.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

lightening wrote:

Yep. make time for yourself. Cant blame Dublin if you don't have time..

In a decent city, it'd take half that time. The points I raised are 1) Dublin is unclean due to Dubliners inability to respect the cty and 2) Infrastructure and public transport lag well behind other European cities.

Listing touristy things to do and asking my why I haven't moved there yet counters neither argument.

Scumlord wrote:

I've never been a big fan of Dublin but I came into Dublin docks one day and had to drive from there through the city and it really made me want to spend a few days in Dublin. Dubliners do tend to look down there noses at the rest of the country, Dubliners that have never moved out of the city in their lifes shouldn't be so full of themselfs .There is allot of Violence one of the times I got lost in the car up there (what happens the signpost once you get into Dublin, actually it's common in every Irish city/big town, they just disappear and your on your own) it was mid day on a busy street and 2 guys where beating the crap out of someone on the street and people where just walking by like nothing was happening.

I've been around Europe and spent a week in most of the main citys and I have to say my favourite city is still Galway.

Kind of. The problem here is that most of the poeple I've met from the country look down their noses at Dublin. And then go on for hours on end telling me all about the binges they've been on the irdes they've shagged (not unline some Dubs, I know) which bores the arse of me inside of five seconds. That said, I have met some very interesting people down the country.

lightening

Ikky Poo2 wrote:

In a decent city, it'd take half that time. The points I raised are 1) Dublin is unclean due to Dubliners inability to respect the cty and 2) Infrastructure and public transport lag well behind other European cities.

In what decent city? No other city has Irelands Eye!

This is my point.


Look, just try it, you are coming up with silly excuses now, doing your best to have a bad time. Try it, get out there and do something. Have you got a bike? There is a cycle track practically from Amiens st. to Howth. Are you near a Dart line? A Luas? They are not packed at the weekend. Is there a bus stop near you? Do you have access to a car? The traffic is not bad at the weekend.

Your point about Dubliners not being able to respect their city is an Irish thing, Irish people do not respect their country, there is litter in Cork, Limerick, Galway. Country people burn plastic, country people litter Dublin and the country.

r3nu4l

Ikky Poo2 wrote:

Dublin is unclean due to Dubliners inability to respect the cty.

I think we should remember that a huge proportion of the population of Dublin are not born and bred Dubliners! True a lot of Dubs disrepect the city through littering, grafitti etc but a lot of country folk and foreigners also litter constantly.

A friend of mine from Galway used to deliberately dump his supermacs containers and any other rubbish he had onto the street secure in the knowledge that 'some working-class Jackeen will be pickin' it up after me' :rolleyes:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

lightening wrote:

In what decent city? No other city has Irelands Eye!

This is my point.


Look, just try it, you are coming up with silly excuses now, doing your best to have a bad time. Try it, get out there and do something. Have you got a bike? There is a cycle track practically from Amiens st. to Howth. Are you near a Dart line? A Luas? They are not packed at the weekend. Is there a bus stop near you? Do you have access to a car? The traffic is not bad at the weekend.

Your point about Dubliners not being able to respect their city is an Irish thing, Irish people do not respect their country, there is litter in Cork, Limerick, Galway. Country people burn plastic, country people litter Dublin and the country.

For the love of God, is it seen as "doing your best to have a bad time" when criticising Dublin? These are not excuses, THEY HAVE BEEN MY POINT ALL ALONG before you decided to divert the topic! Check out post no. 17, wirtten three days ago.

Point taken about the litter being a nationwide problem, but how does that make it allright? How does that make Dublin clean?

lightening

yawn... come back to me when you have at least tried to have a good time.

You have been given lots of examples of how to enjoy the city and you come back with "it will take me to long to get there" You should really move out of Dublin, its just not for you. Move to the German city you love.

As for Dublin GAA players, avoid going out on nights when the dubs are playing if they get to you...

I got stuck GAA traffic from the country, now I avoid driving around Drumcondra on match day.
It must be soul destroying living somewhere you dont like.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

lightening wrote:

yawn... come back to me when you have at least tried to have a good time.

You have been given lots of examples of how to enjoy the city and you come back with "it will take me to long to get there" You should really move out of Dublin, its just not for you. Move to the German city you love.

As for Dublin GAA players, avoid going out on nights when the dubs are playing if they get to you...

I got stuck GAA traffic from the country, now I avoid driving around Drumcondra on match day.
It must be soul destroying living somewhere you dont like.

do you actually read the posts before you reply to them?

lightening

Comon Icky, do you really think Dublin is that bad? Really?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

If you DID read the posts you'd know. But because you haven't...

Post 17

Coming back, I can't help but notice litter everywhere and smell the gas fumes in the city everywhere. Even on the outskirts.

Post 21

That said, I'm not doubing that Dublin has a lot of possibilities (but could do with some more varied nightlife!) However, it's the people that live here that is the point. We might love the city but, as I said earlier, disrespecting it or taking it for granted seems to be a positive characteristic around here.

And you'll notice I was positive in the first part of the one...

Post 34

The issue is respect. It's the people who think they've got the right to drive everywhere, pollute everything and delay everyone else. You can smell the gasoline in the air and we either ignore it ot accept it. Why? It's the attitude you get from bars and restaraunts. And the prices. It's the people who throw they're bigmac wrappers into an overcrowded bin

Post 40

I like city life when the city is clean and well run. A packed Dublin bar will do occasionally.

Post 57

The points I raised are 1) Dublin is unclean due to Dubliners inability to respect the cty and 2) Infrastructure and public transport lag well behind other European cities

Now, let's try this again. I am NOT complaining that there is nothing to do. That was your miunderstanding. I am saying that other cities are cleaner and better run.

lightening

Fair enough. I actually hadn't really been reading your posts properly. I got you mixed up with other posts..... sorry.

Other cities are cleaner and better run. Syndey is a newer city, a lot of German citys are rebuilt after ww2, they are newer, better infrastructure, more modern ameneties.

Dublin is an old city. This shows, some people like the fact that it is like this.

Ireland has a litter problem, this includes Dublin.

I have been to other cities that are filthier and run badly, much worse than Dublin.

I think you and I are going to have to agree to disagree. Its a matter of personal taste I guess. I managed (by complete fluke) to get on the property ladder very early and live in a fantastic area near the sea. I tend to go to town early and miss the mayham at the weekends.

So I guess I see the good things and I miss out on the bad things. I could be accused of wearing the rose tinted glasses. However I do sail in Dubin bay nearly every weekend for free, I canoed on the liffey for years and I get great enjoyement out of all the ameneties I mentioned previously and I really enjoy living in Dublin.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

lightening wrote:

Fair enough. I actually hadn't really been reading your posts properly. I got you mixed up with other posts..... sorry.

Other cities are cleaner and better run. Syndey is a newer city, a lot of German citys are rebuilt after ww2, they are newer, better infrastructure, more modern ameneties.

Dublin is an old city. This shows, some people like the fact that it is like this.

Ireland has a litter problem, this includes Dublin.

I have been to other cities that are filthier and run badly, much worse than Dublin.

I think you and I are going to have to agree to disagree. Its a matter of personal taste I guess. I managed (by complete fluke) to get on the property ladder very early and live in a fantastic area near the sea. I tend to go to town early and miss the mayham at the weekends.

So I guess I see the good things and I miss out on the bad things. I could be accused of wearing the rose tinted glasses. However I do sail in Dubin bay nearly every weekend for free, I canoed on the liffey for years and I get great enjoyement out of all the ameneties I mentioned previously and I really enjoy living in Dublin.

Truce then!
You do, however, see a different side when you don't drive and aren't a confident cyclist....! Maybe Star Trek matter-transporters are the answer...?!

r3nu4l

lightening wrote:

I managed (by complete fluke) to get on the property ladder very early and live in a fantastic area near the sea. I tend to go to town early and miss the mayham at the weekends.

So I guess I see the good things and I miss out on the bad things. I could be accused of wearing the rose tinted glasses. However I do sail in Dubin bay nearly every weekend for free, I canoed on the liffey for years and I get great enjoyement out of all the ameneties I mentioned previously and I really enjoy living in Dublin.

[Envies* lightening]:( Wish I had that lifestyle [/Envies lightening]



*Envy is not the same as begrudgery, fair play to you.

lightening

Yeah, the cycling is tricky, I have been knocked down three times.

Where you from anyway?

lightening

r3nu4l wrote:

[Envies* lightening]:( Wish I had that lifestyle [/Envies lightening]



*Envy is not the same as begrudgery, fair play to you.

Honestly, I Forest gumped my way in to it, total fluke, right place at the right time like a big dope. (with a bit of a fight)

r3nu4l

lightening wrote:

Honestly, I Forest gumped my way in to it, total fluke, right place at the right time like a big dope. (with a bit of a fight)

Makes Mental note to take notes while next watching Forrest Gump

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

lightening wrote:

Yeah, the cycling is tricky, I have been knocked down three times.

Where you from anyway?

Sandyford... Bit of a blind spot for transport (unless you're going into town)

Stark

allmixedup wrote:

this city is a ****hole full of scumbags who should be shot, the match today is a perfect example. one poxy pointless game of boggerball is enough reason to justify the loutish scumbag behaviour by these so called "fans" who also always make it out to celtic games.
pissing on streets, throwing glasses at random buses going by, jumping on car bonnets. fighting on the roads. what happened today wasnt celebrations it was hoolaganism. certain stands should be only available for the cross section of people who behave like this and burned down, we'll identify the bodies by the sovereigns and gold chains,
rant over - backlash begins

Not unique to Dublin or Ireland for that matter. I spent a week orienteering in Sweden last week. On the night before the rest day, everyone went out and got pissed and the behaviour was exactly as you described. On the last night the police were arresting people left right and centre for being drunk and disorderly. Only a tiny proportion of those people were Irish, Scots, Kiwis or whatever stereotypical "alcy" nationality you can think of. Every country has its undesirables.