A spiritual perspective on the existence of evil and suffering

jessop1

I would like to submit an Gnostic essay for consideration and discussion, which I am pasting from a web hosting site which is laden with stupid pop-ups (annoying, but not harmful) so I’m not posting the web link. I will be happy to PM the link to anyone interested. There are a number of other interesting writings on this website.

Where I am coming from on this is to try and understand why suffering and evil exist.
Why can some people perpetrate such horrific evil seemingly without remorse?

I’m not just talking about deranged individuals who murder, torture and rape for pleasure, but people at the “top levels” of society, such as government and military leaders, who are responsible for campaigns mass murder throughout history and as much today as ever, even moreso in fact, when you look at the use of deeply evil and sick weaponry like depleted uranium, cluster bombs and other tools of untold suffering

The essay which I am pasting below attempts to address these questions in detail, it will be too far out for some, but I think spiritually minded people, who are open to basic spiritual concepts, such as “consciousness and the physical body are two separate and distinct things” will find it worth consideration.

I would also like to post the following website: www.xeeatwelve.com for consideration. This one is even more far out (heehee!) than the essay posted below (please read the essay first); the xeeatwelve site includes about 100 essays, discussing the machinations of the evil system discussed in the essay below, and it does include such “wacky” concepts, such as:

The Nature and existence of evil
The nature and existence of the astral world and other dimensions
Some writings about Jesus and how his message has been corrupted beyond
recognition
Alien involvement in world affairs
Hollow earth
Cubed Sun
And a host of other related topics.

I’m not saying I accept all of what is written, but a lot of it rings true for me at an intuitive level and as the essay quite rightly says itself, we should only accept that which feels right.

I have to post the essay over 3 posts, as it is over 20k words and there is a cap of 10k words per post here on boards.

I would love to hear peoples thoughts on these concepts and please no woo-woo trolls..

part 1 of the essay in the next post:

jessop1

Part 1:

Copyright 1997 (c) by J.S. Chiappalone

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SINCE 1985 certain books have been published which contain fundamental KEYS needed to understand what is going on in society and provide a means of making sense of the madness which has gripped our planet.

The point that people should be free to believe what they like, however, is emphasized throughout the writings. Readers are urged to think for themselves at all times and only accept that truth which resonates within them. It is stressed that such philosophical and spiritual discourses are for the individual alone to assess and should be a private matter at all times.

The concept of personal accountability is prominent and many other realizations of what is happening are fostered by the facts presented.

The writings point out that nothing is as it seems in this world of illusion and that there have been continuous efforts throughout history to prevent the truth from being known in its fullest. When one awakens sufficiently, one realizes that there has always been a well-orchestrated conspiracy against exposure of the controlling evil essence and revelation of the truth. The aim of the writings is to stimulate certain people intellectually, philosophically and spiritually so that their process of awakening can be facilitated.

Inspite of apparent scientific progress, this plane is run on ignorance, deception, confusion, stupidity, emotional exploitation and hatred which is the Maya or illusion of this world. The BASIC TENETS of the Centre's "philosophy" are that consciousness and the physical body are two separate and distinct things, that existence of consciousness is MULTI-DIMENSIONAL and that the physical mind is limited in its ability to comprehend all the factors that make up the reality in which we live, which is not always the reality we perceive and are aware of.

All consciousnesses on this level, with the exception of a few, are trapped in a cocoon of IGNORANCE. The purpose of this "philosophy" is to break through that ignorance and bring forth the Light of Knowledge. It was anticipated from the onset that many of the Dark side would fight to prevent this happening.

The writings explain the reason for the presence on this planet of so much SUFFERING and pain which are really not consistent with an existence created by a loving, caring God.

The crux of the philosophy is that there are 2 feuding CREATIONS in this dimension. The Ancient Gnostics understood and professed some of the basic tenets of this philosophy.

The uncensored texts of the ANCIENT WISDOM found in Hermetic texts, in the writings of Manicheus, in the Apocryphal Gospels contained in The Nag Hammadi Library and the Dead Sea Scrolls all talk about the TWO FEUDING CREATIONS. Other evidence of the existence of two creations is found in the Christian Bible (Old Testament), Chaldean Cutha tablets, the Mesopotamian creation myth called the Enuma Elish, Hermetic mythology, Orphic myths, the Hindu sagas (the Ramayana and the Mahabharata, various Vedas and Puranas), doctrines of Zoroaster as contained in the Zend Avesta, Platonic writings and many other sources.

Basic points of realization contained in the books published by the Centre include the following:

--- There are TWO CREATIONS: the original Divine Creation and the evil creation superimposed upon the beauty of the True Divine (Mother's) Creation. It is a parasite on the Divine creation. This physical dimension as it now exists is the creation of a demigod who came into being from an evolutionary aberration which has been termed a "Celestial Error". Evil is not part of the Divine plan. Evil is an aberration, and Evil definitely exists.

--- Since the TAKEOVER of this dimension by the evil essence, and up until this point, a loving just God has NOT been in control for a number of reasons. This planet has been controlled by an evil usurper (called demiurgos by Plato). It has taken time for the Divine Essence to investigate the Error, formulate a Plan of Rectification and then execute it. We are in the phase of Rectification of the Error as far as this planet is concerned.

--- All those in the levels of consciousness in this universe (there are mineral, vegetable, animal, HUMAN, spiritual, galactic and universal levels) belong to one of the two creations, with the vast majority being part of the evil creation. Over 70% of humans are of an evil ontology. These are called ROBOTS and DEMONS and throughout time have exploited the energy of the True Beings (the ontologically Divinely-created beings) of the Divine Creation. Exploitation of the True Divine Race is their role.

--- There are basically two beings in society:


1. PERMANENT ATOM BEINGS, (PA beings) created by the Divine Essence. These are the True Beings. Many of these have not remained faithful to the Light. They have accepted the polluted energy of the evil demigod.

2. NON-PERMANENT ATOM BEINGS, (non-PA beings) created by the evil usurper. They have been called Mock or Counterfeit beings. Some are demons. Very few of these have responded to the Divine Light and rejected their evil essence.

--- As the physical dimension developed over the last 18 billions years or so, it entrapped the consciousness of the True Beings. Evolution eventually imposed these physical structures and bodies onto the trapped consciousness of True Beings. True Beings were forced to use them by the changing conditions imposed by evil. The bodies are subjected to various programming factors and reflexes which distort the expression of the consciousness of the True Beings who reside within them.

--- The physical body is affected by the environment and the principle AGENTS OF PROGRAMMING which in today's world are: Oxygen, various Foodstuffs, Alcohol and tobacco, Drugs, Sex, Radiation, Talismans, Microbes, Wealth or lack of it.

--- Thoughts can be the result of IMPLANTATION from either the evil or the Divine force.

--- A Divine Consciousness is not the body or the so-called soul. It was originally created to experience, explore, express, evolve and enjoy in order to return to and enhance the Divine Mind which created it.

--- The consciousness of True Beings exists within the bodies in 7 Centres of Consciousness (chakras) each of which has a nucleus containing: Divine awareness, the essences of the Creator, permanence, a Divine heritage and the blueprints for the Divine evolution of that individual centre of consciousness.

--- The metaphysical anatomical structure of beings on this planet includes: An astral body, an etheric body, an emotional body, a physical body with its physical mind and a filtering mechanism which prevents adequate recall of out of body experiences. All these structures have been imposed by the evil demigod. This body is programmed by the genes and the chromosomes, by the physical mind and the agents acting upon it, and by behaviourial patterns which are both congenital and acquired.

--- There are 10 classes of consciousness in human bodies and they are physically indistinguishable.

These classes are as follows:

i Ancients,

ii Ancients of Ancients,

iii Earthling PA beings,

iv Translocated PA beings from other planets (beings who have been kidnapped from other planets -- many of these are now spontaneously awakening to the fact that they are not earthlings),

v The counterfeit evil-created non-PA beings,

vi Class 5 beings (Spiritual beings called Walk-ins),

vii Fallen Class 5 beings,

viii Special Creations of the Supreme,

ix Evil incomplete beings (called soulless beings) and

x Rescuers.

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--- True Beings are TRAPPED at this stage of their existence here. Every situation on this plane has been set up by the evil demiurge, his archons, minions and non-PA beings to attack, drain and pollute the True Beings. Traps within the trap often include cults, sects and religions, bad marriages, families run by evil beings, programming by excessive wealth, social responsibilities, effects of racism, the illusion of cultural superiority, social, career or financial status, peer pressure, elitist education, etc.

--- Almost everything we have been taught is wrong or distorted by evil. Until now there has been no escape from the endless cycle of birth and death. REINCARNATION and KARMA do occur, but they are evil mechanisms to exploit individuals in a closed system, for up to this time no one has been able to escape.

--- We are in the midst of a massive CELESTIAL WAR; a battle of essences on all planes; of Good against Evil.

--- There are HIGH BEINGS among us and on all other levels of consciousness who have come to Liberate the True Beings who have remained faithful. They are executing the Divine Plan of Liberation. We are never alone. There is a Spiritual Hierarchy and a Divine Being of Purity who IS Love (The True God) to whom each consciousness is responsible and accountable.

--- The more one awakens and sees through the Maya, the less is one satisfied or harmonious with this evil system because one becomes more and more aware of the exploitation of energy that occurs in this system, the pollution that occurs and the destruction of the Divinity within True Beings.

--- Awareness of what is going on can keep one from continuing to be a helpless, exploitable victim to the illusion of the plane.

--- It is important to TURN WITHIN, to connect to the Divine spark that is within each True Being. Meditation, with proper protection and cleansing, is essential for this connection to occur. Help is given to all those who sincerely turn to the Light. In their pursuit of spiritual awakening and understanding, no one should be dictated to by religions, governments or anyone else.

--- The True Beings need to PURIFY and DETACH as much as possible. The physical mind, the emotional body, negative energy, the ego and EVIL programming all need to be overcome. DIET is important. Drugs and addictive foodstuffs such as caffeine, alcohol and tobacco must be avoided as they are spiritual poisons as well as pharmacological ones.

--- Everyone is involved in this WAR in one way or the other. One cannot sit on the fence. One is either for or against the Light.

--- True Beings must be strong in this time of upheaval, stand up for their rights for they have been oppressed for a long, long time. They must speak up, not be fooled, AWAKEN to the Truth, and realize who they are.

--- In this final phase, more and more people are awakening to the fact that PLANETARY DESTRUCTION is a real possibility.

--- To consciously choose to serve the Divine by SURRENDERING to the Divine Will (that is, to reject the whims and dictates of the evil personal ego) is the way to overcome evil.

--- Constant PROTECTION and CLEANSING is important to ward off the constant attacks from evil. Various entities can affect and even invade human consciousness if one is not protected. The evidence of such astral entities is growing and this was prophesied in the writings.

--- The evil essence has infiltrated everything on this plane and is so entwined within the Mother's trapped creation in this sector that the physical dimension needs to be totally destroyed after all the levels of consciousness associated with it are classified and judged. EARTH is too polluted to continue. It has been CONDEMNED.

--- The evil system will be totally destroyed:

A finalization of the Celestial War on this planet will take place within the next 7 years and should end by the year 2000. As timing can vary, however, due to many variable factors, the final destruction can be delayed, but only 5-10 years at the most.

--- The CLEARING PROCESS is going on now through many different means including natural disasters (earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, tornadoes, drought, floods, etc.) by diseases such as AIDS, hepatitis, TB, malaria, new diseases, etc., by starvation, accidents, wars, etc. This clearing process of the planet is taking place now before its total destruction. The planet is now in its death throes. All people are to leave the physical before the planet is destroyed. Hence no one on this level will witness the destruction.

--- The final stages of clearing of the planet of all consciousness, of the planet's destruction, the separation and JUDGEMENT, reward and TRANSMUTATION of consciousness will be supervised by the manifestation of the Superior Consciousness which will descend onto this plane.

--- ALL WILL BE JUDGED. No one will escape True Divine Justice. The evil ones will be punished by their own evilness, the trapped True Beings will be liberated and the Divine Order will be re-established. Those who are irretrievably evil will be judged as such and will undergo a process of TRANSMUTATION.

--- Only those deemed fit to continue will do so in a new dimension.

The philosophy also discusses and\or answers questions about the following:

-- The present and real situation on this planet today.

-- the identity of the EVIL DEMIURGE in relation to Christ and religions.

-- The WAR OF ESSENCES in which we are caught and how it manifests.

-- The concept of MAYA and why this world is called illusional.

-- the effects of EVIL PROGRAMMING.

-- the major and minor AGENTS OF PROGRAMMING of humans, and all other consciousnesses.

-- The process of thought implantation.

-- The evilness of the majority of beings in the 7 classes of consciousness.

-- The connection between the Divine beings such as Zeus, Hera, Athena, Horus, Isis, Osiris, Hermes Trismegistus, Moses, Plato, Orpheus, Socrates, Rama, Krishna, Zoroaster, Manicheus, Buddha, Jesus, King Arthur, Guenevere, Mohammed, Haidiyakhan Babaji, (the real) Sai Baba.

-- The evil distortions in religious scripture, the EVILNESS OF RELIGION and the reason behind this.

-- The innate EVILNESS of the material manifestation.

-- The ORIGIN OF EVIL as the result of a celestial error of the `Pistis-Sophia'.

-- The Centres of Consciousness, Evil Possession, Channelling, Sleep, Dreams, Pollution of Prana, etc.

-- The Existence and structure of Permanent and Non permanent atom beings.

-- The anatomical, metaphysical structure of humans, animals, plants and even minerals.

-- The intermingling of the TWO CREATIONS in this dimension and the number of evil consciousnesses.

-- The existence of KIDNAPPED CONSCIOUSNESSES from other planets, solar systems, etc., and the existence of walk-ins, stand-ins, body-snatchers, etc.

-- The Evil trap of RE-INCARNATION and the Evilness of the law of KARMA.

-- The evil exploitation of energy by all forms of SUFFERING.

-- The explanation of the 10 different types of Consciousnesses in human shells.

-- The extensive details of HOW, WHEN and WHY this MESS will be cleaned up.

-- The Mechanism of Psychic Attack and the urgent need for PROTECTION at all times.

-- The evilness of consciousness in some animals, vegetables, plants, and minerals.

-- The mechanism of Energy Extraction by the evil system and REGRESSION of human consciousness into animals and plants.

-- The condemnation of society as evil.

-- The futility of those thinking they can "save" this evil dimension; greenies, New Agers, etc.

-- The identity and EXPOSURE of channellers and channelled material such as Lazaris, Ramtha, A Course in Miracles, Seth and others as Products of the Evil Consciousness.

-- The apparently mysterious ability of CRYSTALS.

-- The Breakdown of Inter-dimensional Barriers resulting in interaction with ghosts, astral beings, UFO's, etc.

-- The MYTH of the Brotherhood of Man and the evil Doctrine of MONOTHEISM.

-- The connection between UFOs, Extraterrestrial consciousness, channelling, Clearing of the Planet, Evacuation of consciousnesses, Space Command and the prophets of old.

-- The identity of The (Dreaded) Judge as being none other than KING ARTHUR who was recognized as the Liberator by the Gnostic Druids 1500 years ago. This was recorded in Celtic Mythology. Arthur was and is none other than HAIDIYAKHAN BABAJI, also known as LORD SHIVA, the teacher and "Father" of JESUS.

-- The connection between the consciousnesses of Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, St. Malachy, Mother Shipton and others.

-- The prophecy of "The Generation Which Will Not Know Death".

-- The mechanism of, and need for, the Process of Transmutation.

-- The accurate and detailed description of the EVENTS OF THE LAST DAYS.

-- The facts with which one can make total sense of the madness which has gripped this planet.

-- The etheric and ASTRAL WORLDS which are evil created illusional worlds, visited when people die, and needing to be totally destroyed forever.

-- The consciousness of all the 4 lower classes which are trapped in by an astral ceiling of 400,000 km above the surface of the earth.

-- The distortion of the Doctrine of Eschatology by Jewish and Christian Fundamentalists.


part 3 --->

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Part 3

While the writings explain how and why society is generally evil, and explain the solution being applied to rectify the situation, readers are warned not to fall into the trap of taking the law into their own hands and then being punished by the evil system. All are responsible for their actions and are accountable at all times.

Other topics discussed include Meditation, Abortion, Peer Pressure, the Ego, Doubt and Scepticism, the Media, Pornography, Channelling and Clairvoyance, the Mechanism and Value of Suffering, Health and Healing, the mechanism and value of Miracles, Homosexuality, Schizophrenia and other mental diseases, Near Death Syndromes, Out Of Body Experiences, Emotions and their exploitation, and the types of Love.

HISTORICAL aspects are discussed where these are relevant and many of the books are manuals to assist readers to awaken to their own truth within and also give exercises to assist them in the processes such as meditation, protection, cleansing, strengthening character, eradicating negative traits, recognizing shortcomings, limitations, etc.

The books are to act merely as trigger mechanisms for certain ones to awaken to their own truth within.

PROPHECY in general and specific terms is dealt with in the writings and many prophecies are given. It is important to understand the mechanism of prophecy which is a valid weapon in this celestial war.

Prophecies may be accurate at the time they are given and then if circumstances change they can also. Secondly, prophecies may be given to fool the enemy and were never meant to happen. Thirdly, prophecies may be manifested on a varying time scale so that some occur before the time given and some after that time.

People with a true inner understanding of these writings were and are able to appreciate these points. Those with no understanding whatsoever, and those of the Dark side have been dismissive of the validity of the whole "philosophy" because the prophecies which they did not understand in the first place did not occur when they thought they would occur.

The PLAN OF LIBERATION of this plane did involve a number of prophecies which are being fulfilled, as a glance at the information below, under the heading of "A review of prophecies made by the Centre of Knowledge and Supremacy" will show. Major geographical disasters predicted in 1985 have been postponed for various reasons and are due to occur in this second seven year phase of the Plan.

Readers are warned to be prepared and to be flexible. We are caught in a War of Essences and all should expect the unexpected.

Apart from the prophecies, the fact that this philosophy makes so much sense to some and is attacked so vehemently, without any obvious reason, by others is a validation of its accuracy.

The ultimate confirmation of this information will come with the total destruction of the globe, but by then it will be far too late for those who would not listen or attempt to undergo even the slightest preparation for what is to come.

It is abundantly evident that those who have been sincere and examined the information and themselves have been able to ELIMINATE FEAR AND PANIC in their lives with the understanding these writings bring.




Thats it. As I said, I can PM the link to this website to anyone interested.

I would love to hear considered opinions.

Zillah

How do you reconcile the notion that Evil has usurped the world, and God is slowly formulating and executing a plan with the notion of an all-seeing all-powerful God?

Nevyn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosis

Gnosis
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The word gnosis (from the Greek word for knowledge, γνώσις) refers to the ultimate spiritual knowledge that is more commonly familiar to people as enlightenment. The word has a common ancestral root (from Proto-Indo-European) with the Sanskrit word gnana (pronounced nyana) that has an equivalent meaning in Buddhist and Hindu spiritual treatises. The knowledge to which gnosis refers is that of the unconditioned ground (and source) of phenomenal reality, variously called Brahman (The Upanisads), the Dharmakaya (Mahayana Buddhism), the Tao (Tao Te Ching) and God (Theistic religion). One who having followed a spiritual path in order to return to the origin and arrived at this transcendental knowledge is called a gnostic (Gnani in Sanskrit and Hindi).

Classical meanings

* Direct knowledge of God through awareness of the divine spark within.
* Gnosis being a Greek word has its origin in Greek philosophy. See Plato gnostikoi’ and gnostike episteme Politikos in Greek or Politicus in Latin (258e-267a) which means the knowledge to influence and control. Gnostike episteme also was used to indicate one's aptitude.
* Among the sectarian gnostics, gnosis was first and foremost a matter of self acquaintance which was the goal of enlightenment. Later, Valentinius, more usually called Valentinus, taught that gnosis was the privileged "knowledge of the heart" or "insight" about the spiritual nature of the cosmos, that brought about salvation to the pneumatics - people who believed they could achieve this insight. Gnosis was distinct from the secret teachings they only revealed to initiates once they had reached a certain level of progression. Rather, these teachings were paths to obtain gnosis. Gnostic ideas of salvation were similar to Buddhist conceptions of enlightenment[citation needed], hence gnosis was not expressible by words. (See e.g. ineffability, a quality of realization common to many, if not most, esoteric traditions; see also Jung on the difference between sign and symbol.)
* Among heresiologists, gnosis denotes different Jewish or pagan belief systems of esoteric nature such as, first and foremost, Gnosticism and other dualist systems from the 1st and 2nd centuries A.D., but also Rosicrucianism, Kabbalah, etc.
* The word also carried over from Plato into Greek Orthodox christianity via St Clement of Alexandria, Hippolytus (writer), Hegesippus, and Origen but in an intuitive knowledge type of meaning in relation to the greek words theosis, theoria. Gnosis meant an experience of God.
* The term Gnosis is related to the sanskrit jnana (as in Jnana Yoga) and to the Hebrew daath, which is the hidden sphere in the Kabbalah, or that knowledge which was only given to the initiated.
* In the teachings of Sri Aurobindo, the Gnostic being refers to the future supramental state of divinised humanity, living a spirit-filled existence.

jessop1

Zillah wrote:

How do you reconcile the notion that Evil has usurped the world, and God is slowly formulating and executing a plan with the notion of an all-seeing all-powerful God?

good question. The only answer I can give is that God is not at present all seeing and all powerful. He is not in control of this sector at the moment.

Other writings from JS Chiappalione suggest that God could destroy this sector entirely if he wanted to, but he would have to destroy all the remaining trapped "True Light Beings" in the process.

I would analogise this to a doctor deciding to chop a cancerous leg off rather than perform the delicate surgery of removing the bad and saving the good.

But a loving god would not do this.

Of course your question still applies though, regardless of whether you agree with Chiappalones gnostic viewpoint or not - ie how do you reconcile the existence of an all loving all powerful god with the fact that so many endure suffering on this plane. Who can answer that one?

Thaedydal, I know you dont agree with my viewpoint and I respect that, but I think that the wiki definition crystallises how true gnosticism has been deliberately corrupted.

The key line in that definition for me is "One who having followed a spiritual path in order to return to the origin"

So lets discuss what that means. What is the origin and why do we have to return to it, why are we not there already?

To JS Chiappalone the origin is the true divine creation, where there is no suffering, no physical matter, just divine energy. We should never have left there and been subjected to this plane and all of the suffering that goes with it.

I think that nugget of wisdom, which is the key piece of information, has been deliberately buried in a pile of irrelevance, by those who have corrupted gnosticism.

And besides, at its most basic level, the word gnosis simply means knowledge, so lets not argue over terminology, tell me what you think of the chiappalone essay


peace

jessop1

Thaedydal, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on that essay. I'm assuming you have an interest in gnosticism seeing as you sticky'd a list of web links (excluding the ones I provided) on the subject.

jessop1

two recent xeeatwelve articles, with perspectives on current events:

http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/kitos_will_fracture.html

http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/darkness_favourite_name

enjoy