NCT A farse?

JoeySully

Had my nct retest today!

Here are some problems theat i know about my car!
1. weak starter motor
2. Smooookeeee is hell
3. timing is defo off.
4. emmisions leaking from exhaust manifold
5. intermittent brake light prob(think i might have fixed this on though)
6. exhaust hitting offf undercarrige over bumps. hitting the handbrake under car.
7. Oil leak
i cant believe
NCT RESULT : PASS
ps. yes i do intend to fix these problems

kluivert

My car went to the NCT centre with a new exhaust in the boot, the mechanic that took my car to the NCT centre said he would put the exhaust on later and it passed.

How??

NCT like everything else in this country is a revenue collecting devise, bring in the MOT.

JoeySully

kluivert wrote:

My car went to the NCT centre with a new exhaust in the boot, the mechanic that took my car to the NCT centre said he would put the exhaust on later and it passed.

How??

NCT like everything else in this country is a revenue collecting devise, bring in the MOT.

I had to do the retest because there was a hole in the exhaust. they would nt do the emmisssions test at all until it was replaced

Kimbot

My GF had a show car!! Had "poppers" in the doors and they failed it.. her mechanic brought it around to them and she rang and said look at the end of the day I can bring the car back here with different doors so it will pass but I will change them straight back and they passed her car straight up!!

Cosmo K

Ok, let the battle begin As I work for the NCT since 2003 (I'm not gonna tell you where), whats your problem ? Most of the time, people complain that the test is way to strict, and now you are saying its not strict enough ?

Weak Starter motor:not part of the test !
Diesel smoke: trust me, if it passes the diesel smoke test, it can't be that bad
Timing is off: How do you know that for sure ? Do you really want us to check the timing on every car we test? Fair enough, but it would make the test slightly more expensive :eek: how about a little valet Sir ?
broken manifold: again if it passes the diesel test, can't be that bad
brake light failure: if it works in the test center.....fair enough
exhaust and speedbumps: fortunately we don't have speedbumps on the the lane, as long the exhaust mounting is sound, its a pass...so what are you moaning about ???


Bring in the mot ?!`The NCT System is far from perfect, way to strict in some areas, the stupid number plate thing for example, and in other areas its not strict enough, tyre sizes and so....definitely room for improvement! But I know one thing for sure, the mot is a F&*@ing joke !

Sorry about my written english, hope its not too bad

Day-wanna-wonga

C*nts. They failed me last year because a bulb went sometime between the night before my test (when I check my front lights in a window reflection at night) and the time I brought it for the test the next morning. I had to go replace the bulb, and bring it back and pay €20 (approx) for a quick 'thumbs up'.

JoeySully

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

C*nts. They failed me last year because a bulb went sometime between the night before my test (when I check my front lights in a window reflection at night) and the time I brought it for the test the next morning. I had to go replace the bulb, and bring it back and pay €20 (approx) for a quick 'thumbs up'.

broke the bulb yesterday evening while trying to fix the brake light. threw a spanner at it!
I was running around this morning looking for a brake light bulb. went to 4 petrol stations before i found one that actually sold them.

Anan1

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

C*nts. They failed me last year because a bulb went sometime between the night before my test (when I check my front lights in a window reflection at night) and the time I brought it for the test the next morning. I had to go replace the bulb, and bring it back and pay €20 (approx) for a quick 'thumbs up'.

They're c*nts because your bulb didn't work at test? Come on.

ibanezjem

Good topic actually..the NCT farse thing. I wonder how important people think it is to have a valid NCT if your car is relatively young...say anything after '00. If your car is well looked after and the disgrace that the NCT really is, is is that important?? The guards seem to concentrate on Tax & insurance at Checkpoints. NCT..what NCT??? who cares!!.... I know plenty of people driving 98-02 cars that have never been NCT'd since first registration. However we do need a proper system to take the bangers of the road.

Depending on the amount of revenue generated at that particular period of the year determines if you pass or fail and everyone knows this is a money spinner for the excuse of a government we have as its clearly not carried out nor policed properly.

NCT doesnt mean sh•it. With only a few posts so far, its very clear that there are loopholes and corners to be cut regarding a pass "on one condition..." situations. Bloody scandalous. If the car is unfit for roaduse at time of test. Fail! But this is not so. The "I'll fix it later" line etc should not be used as a compromise towards a so called professional body that is supposed to be the NCT. I say down with the NCT... more so down with government scams...

The Muppet

A friend of mines light switches on the colume of his ford escort died on the morning of his NCT. He didn't have time to get it fixed but went ahead with his appointment without saying anything to the tester. After the test the tester told him he had failed because his rear seat belt was tucked down the seat. He advised him to drive to one of the bays and take it out and he would pass it, which he did.


The again I failed and NCT because of badly aligned headlights , which surprised me beacuse a mechanic friend of mine in a DOE test centre had alligned them on a machine pre test. Needless to say I took the car back to the mechanic and he retested it. Again he said the lights were perfectand and to bring it back for another test. I did and without making any alterations this time it passed.

I suppose the moral of the story if there is any is that the NCT is only as good as the guy giving the test.

Henry Ford III

It's spelt FARCE. Jebus!

johnny_adidas

have to agree with cosmo k here. some people just need something to complain about imo. if it had failed there would probably be a threadon saying, the coonts failed me and there was only these small things wrong with it....
be happy it bloody well passed

Day-wanna-wonga

Anan1 wrote:

They're c*nts because your bulb didn't work at test? Come on.

No - they're c*nts because they make me come back again and pay a re-test fee because a bulb was blown, instead of just telling me to replace it. That's retarded logic, based on some of the stuff the OP said they passed him on...

Anan1

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

No - they're c*nts because they make me come back again and pay a re-test fee because a bulb was blown, instead of just telling me to replace it. That's retarded logic, based on some of the stuff the OP said they passed him on...

You brought the car to test with a blown bulb. That really is about the size of it.

Day-wanna-wonga

Anan1 wrote:

You brought the car to test with a blown bulb. That really is about the size of it.

No - the size of it is they made me come back to re-test just because of a blown bulb, that they could have just told me to replace on the way home. See that thing flying right over your head?... that's 'the point', and you just missed it.

johnny_adidas

was it their fault u didnt have your lights working on the day???

alias no.9

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

No - they're c*nts because they make me come back again and pay a re-test fee because a bulb was blown, instead of just telling me to replace it. That's retarded logic, based on some of the stuff the OP said they passed him on...

A retest for just a bulb is free. It must have been a dipped headlight bulb which meant they could not check the allignment, so the retest fee was for the allignment, not the bulb.

johnny_adidas

and what would happen to the guy who tested you if you went off out the gate with your bulbs not working and a new nct cert and you crash later cos they didnt work???
in fairness its one of the things on the list that should be working. if it was me i wouldve said dont print out that fail and ill be back in 15 mins, but maybe that wasnt an option. as said above they would have to rig it up again to test the alignment of the headlights which means the machinery has to be used. i can see what your getting at but thats their job and if they let one thing go, then should they let everyone with a blown bulb off with it?
i had similar thing with a brake pedal rubber. the one i was supplied with wouldnt fit so i failed due to it sitting there in the cup holder. if i had left it at home i wouldnt have failed at all. still its not the guys fault, only doing his job. got another rubber, fitted it, took a look and printed my cert.

Anan1

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

No - the size of it is they made me come back to re-test just because of a blown bulb, that they could have just told me to replace on the way home. See that thing flying right over your head?... that's 'the point', and you just missed it.

Just because of a blown bulb?? It's the NCT, they test for blown bulbs!! You were stupid enough to bring a car for test with a blown bulb and now you're whining? Sell your car, you're too stupid to drive.;)

sneakyST

i had a rear light fail on the way to the test. The car failed but i could bring it back within four weeks anytime i liked free of charge with the bulb replaced to get my cert. easy. no drama

SonOfPerdition

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

No - the size of it is they made me come back to re-test just because of a blown bulb, that they could have just told me to replace on the way home. See that thing flying right over your head?... that's 'the point', and you just missed it.

:rolleyes:
If anyone missed the point it was you.

Day-wanna-wonga

Anan1 wrote:

Just because of a blown bulb?? It's the NCT, they test for blown bulbs!! You were stupid enough to bring a car for test with a blown bulb and now you're whining? Sell your car, you're too stupid to drive.;)

Stupid? I checked all the bulbs the night before @ 11pm, and my test was at 9:10am the next morning - how is that stupid? And I did sell that car - ages ago.

It had 3 sets of lights on the front, so with that blown bulb, there were still 5 lights visible on the front. You'd think logic would prevail in that situation.

Anan1

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

Stupid? I checked all the bulbs the night before @ 11pm, and my test was at 9:10am the next morning - how is that stupid? And I did sell that car - ages ago.

It had 3 sets of lights on the front, so with that blown bulb, there were still 5 lights visible on the front. You'd think logic would prevail in that situation.

Logic did prevail. You brought your car to test with a blown bulb and you failed. So what if the bulb worked the previous night? So what if there were 5, 10, or even 15 other lights on the front of the car? You brought your car to test with a blown bulb and that's why they failed you. Don't you think it's time to stop whining & move on?

alias no.9

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

Stupid? I checked all the bulbs the night before @ 11pm, and my test was at 9:10am the next morning - how is that stupid? And I did sell that car - ages ago.

It had 3 sets of lights on the front, so with that blown bulb, there were still 5 lights visible on the front. You'd think logic would prevail in that situation.

It doesn't matter how many sets of bulbs you had. If you had to pay for the retest, it must have been one of your dipped headlights that was blown and because it was blown they could not check the headlight allignment. Your arguement is a bit like saying they failed you because one of your wheels was missing but you had three others so they should have just told you to fix it on the way home, despite the fact that they weren't able to test other things because of the missing wheel, such as brakes, suspension imbalabce, axel slip, etc...

Day-wanna-wonga

Anan1 wrote:

Logic did prevail. You brought your car to test with a blown bulb and you failed. So what if the bulb worked the previous night? So what if there were 5, 10, or even 15 other lights on the front of the car? You brought your car to test with a blown bulb and that's why they failed you. Don't you think it's time to stop whining & move on?

No, I think it's time the policy was changed and they stopped failing for retarded things that should just be 'advisories".

Day-wanna-wonga

alias no.9 wrote:

Your arguement is a bit like saying they failed you because one of your wheels was missing but you had three others so they should have just told you to fix it on the way home,

Your analogy is seriously stupid - you can't drive on 3 wheels, numb-nuts. I had 1 out of 6 front lights blown. Sliiiiiiiiiight difference.

Anyway - I'm done with this topic, so Anan1 will have to start following me elsewhere.

Anan1

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

No, I think it's time the policy was changed and they stopped failing for retarded things that should just be 'advisories".

You think blown headlight bulbs should be "advisories"?

alias no.9

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

Your analogy is seriously stupid

Much the same as your argument then, but I'll refrain from the childish name calling

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

- you can't drive on 3 wheels, numb-nuts.

DS20perfecture might disagree with you on that one if he's around.

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

I had 1 out of 6 front lights blown. Sliiiiiiiiiight difference.

It wasn't simply a blown bulb. Your car couldn't be tested for headlight allignment because one of the dipped headlight bulbs was blown, otherwise your retest would have been free and done without an appointment which meant you could have come back within 5 minutes once you replaced the bulb. Whatever way you look at this, they did nothing wrong.

Anan1

Day-wanna-wonga wrote:

Anyway - I'm done with this topic, so Anan1 will have to start following me elsewhere.

Is it just me, or are there a lot of little kiddies with different names but who sound remarkably similar running around here recently?

kc66

My gf had her NCT on Sunday. She forgot that her front light was blown. Also they are focused totally wrong- aimed to the left. She passed.
Not complaining.

gyppo

Heres a copy of an earlier post of mine:


About 3 years ago, I brought my wifes 92 Toyota Starlet to have its NCT. Went away for a coffee, arrived back about 45min later. NCT tester told me he had good news, and bad news.
The good news - the car passed everything fine, with all results well within margins.
The bad news - a third seatbelt should have been fitted in the rear, this had'nt been done, it was a free recall from toyota.
Get the belt sorted, and I can then issue your NCT cert, sez he.


Anyhow, the local toyota garage were very busy, and I was fobbed off a few times before the new rear belt was fitted.


Eventually, by the time I got the car back to the NCT centre, I was a day over the prescribed time (28 days, I think). So, I was told that the car would have to have a full test carried out again. I was slightly pi**ed off, but could'nt see what other alternative there was, so the car was arranged to be tested a few days later (the next slot they had in their timetable)

Imagine my amazement that the car failed the retest!
The tester (different guy to the previous one) showed me the test report, and the car failed due to a brake imbalance.

Now, imagine the testers amazement when I showed him the NCT report from 30 odd days earlier, showing a clean bill of health. There was something like 210 miles difference between the odometer readings on both reports.

I asked how there could be such a difference in the two reports in such a short space of time, which he could not answer. He then told me that he himself did not test the car this time, one of his colleagues had. He went off to speak to him, and I could see the pair of them having a good chinwag. He then returned, and offered to test the car personally, so I agreed to it.

Suprise, Suprise, it passed!!


As I said earlier, the car passed the test the 1st time, well within any failure limits. I could imagine that if it had been a borderline case 1st time out, it could easily fail 2nd time. However, this was not the case here.

Since then, I have always had a healthy dose of cynicism for the NCT test.