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TG4 abandons Suil Eile for British football

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  • #2
    Mossy Monk
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    this is good news


  • #3
    Bateman
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    The more football the better. I can't take much more of this seasonal interest in GAA, cycling, golf... :(


  • #4
    moshpit77
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    best news I've heard all day :D


  • #5
    Kingp35
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    Bateman wrote:
    The more football the better. I can't take much more of this seasonal interest in GAA, cycling, golf... :(

    Where are you getting seasonal interest in GAA from? GAA is shown all year round including club games.


  • #6
    johnos
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    Bateman wrote:
    The more football the better. (
    Even at the expense of the Irish game?
    We are dealing here with a channel that has as part of its mission statement the promotion of Irish sport, and which gets public money on that basis.


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  • #7
    The Muppet
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    johnos wrote:
    Even at the expense of the Irish game?
    We are dealing here with a channel that has as part of its mission statement the promotion of Irish sport, and which gets public money on that basis.

    How is it at the expense of Irish Football? Public service broadcasters have an obligation to cater for the whole population including those of us that like to watch "British" football. We pay taxes too you know.


  • #8
    Bateman
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    johnos wrote:
    Even at the expense of the Irish game?
    We are dealing here with a channel that has as part of its mission statement the promotion of Irish sport, and which gets public money on that basis.

    As far as I know, The FAI and the league sign contracts with RTE / TG4 / TV3 / Setanta which pre-determine how many live games each will show during the course of the season. TV3 have the weekly highlights slot, so that isn't really a goer. TV coverage of domestic football has drastically improved in the past 3 years, and it hasn't been all good news; a lot of the shortcomings (poor crowds and poor facilities being just 2) have been magnified. I think the number of live league and cup games at the moment is about right, and the only grumble I'd have with eL weekly is that it could be 15 minutes longer, and go out at an earlier time, but other than that, media coverage of domestic football is about right at the moment. It's up to the clubs now to show what they are made of. As an example, why aren't Bohs sending out players touring kids' summer camps handing out free passes to league games to boost our terrible crowds?


  • #9
    johnos
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    Bateman wrote:
    As far as I know, The FAI and the league sign contracts with RTE / TG4 / TV3 / Setanta which pre-determine how many live games each will show during the course of the season. TV3 have the weekly highlights slot, so that isn't really a goer. TV coverage of domestic football has drastically improved in the past 3 years, and it hasn't been all good news; a lot of the shortcomings (poor crowds and poor facilities being just 2) have been magnified. I think the number of live league and cup games at the moment is about right, and the only grumble I'd have with eL weekly is that it could be 15 minutes longer, and go out at an earlier time, but other than that, media coverage of domestic football is about right at the moment.
    I think you make a good general point. There isn't really a case for wall to wall coveral of the national league, and of course there is a delicate balance between giving television exposure and hitting actual attendances. But there have been very few league games shown lately, on any of the channels. And we need a high-quality highlights show at a reasonable hour, and not 11.30 on a Monday night. I think the reason the TG4 decision is particularly disappointing is that the coverage -- camera work, direction etc. -- was rather good, even though I struggled with my Leaving Cert Irish.
    Bateman wrote:
    It's up to the clubs now to show what they are made of. As an example, why aren't Bohs sending out players touring kids' summer camps handing out free passes to league games to boost our terrible crowds?
    The reality is that national league clubs are made of long-suffering amateurs and enthusiasts who spend their time fighting financial bush fires. Marketing is one of the main motivations for the link with the FAI. I hope they deliver.
    The Muppet wrote:
    How is it at the expense of Irish Football? Public service broadcasters have an obligation to cater for the whole population including those of us that like to watch "British" football. We pay taxes too you know.
    Are you not catered for already? Also, I'm curious as to why you insulate the word "British" with quote marks. In what way, precisely, are the clubs in question not British?


  • #10
    The Muppet
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    johnos wrote:

    Are you not catered for already? Also, I'm curious as to why you insulate the word "British" with quote marks. In what way, precisely, are the clubs in question not British?

    The more football on TV the better IMO so no I am not catered for already. I still don't see how showing these games on TG4 has any bearing on their promotion of Irish sport unless you are suggesting they should only support Irish sport to the detriment of international sport.

    My understanding is that TG4 was established to support the Irish Language so to me it makes perfect sense for them to show sport that will generate the largest audience , like it ot not the EL could not compete in this respect.

    I insultated the word British with quote marks to cater for Celtic Fans, I though everyone knew Celtic are Irish ;) .


  • #11
    johnos
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    The Muppet wrote:
    I insultated the word British with quote marks to cater for Celtic Fans, I though everyone knew Celtic are Irish ;) .
    Irish? Celtic? That's funny! :D
    Let's not let reality get in the way of a good fantasy!


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  • #12
    DMC
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    I'm sure that, now that the World Cup is over, RTÉ can start showing their contracted EL live games.
    kingp35 wrote:
    Where are you getting seasonal interest in GAA from? GAA is shown all year round including club games.

    GAA hype is always at its height at this time of the year. It is their showcase.

    This is one of the reasons I reckon that summer soccer has failed the clubs.
    The performance and playing of the game might be better, but people have less spare time, more to do in the summer evenings that go to Tolka, Oriel etc.

    Is it a coincidence that rugby gates are so strong, as they now have the winter to themselves??


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