How you would change application process?

BryanL

impressive reply!
i reckon the price of the airgun licence should be brought in line with the shotgun vermin cost,or else consider letting younger shooters get airguns on a starter licence.
Bryan

Dr Strange

Clare gunner wrote:

... What I would like to see is addition or clarification on the deact situation that you could hold a collectors liscense for multiple firearms of a certain type,and are building a collection of paticular historic and culturel value.

By this I mean you collect a specific type of gun IE Lugers.But you can only collect Lugers and derivatives of them.Not suddenly decide on AKs.You have to prove you are a bonafide collector and knowledgeable on the specific gun.
This is a German idea that is pretty workable.This is for live weapons BTW

Deacts bring this into line with the EU.A properly Deacted weapon is nothing more than an expensive,awkward,hi tech club! You should be able to buy this liscense with a once off fee with no bother once you made an application to the Gardai,and they are satisfied you are not a post office blagger,fresh out of the Joy...

Yes, I would be very much in favour of that! At the moment I don't have problems with collecting deact historical weapons. I buy the deact somewhere in Europe, usually online, get the serial number and deactivation procedures carried out on the weapon, apply for the Article 7 Authority at my local Garda Station and once I get this I send a copy to the seller to include in the parcel. He/she then sends the deactivated weapon over to me, I inform my local Garda Station that it has arrived and the Firearms Licensing Officer checks the deact procedures on the weapon.

Best,
Preusse

Traumadoc

I worked with mental health patients in Australia, often patients would telll you they planned to kill or harm themselves or others.

We were obliged to fill out a report that went straight to the police firearms office.

I had no problem with that.

mcguiver

Thanks for the replies folks , plenty of stuff to work with.

Lots of room for improvement in the system and at dealer/ shooter level.

....to give an example, went to a dealer who I've never been to , got 1000 rounds high velocity .22, pulled out my licences, and dealer says "your all right, I dont bother with those for the small stuff!!"

the hunter

mcguiver wrote:

Thanks for the replies folks , plenty of stuff to work with.

Lots of room for improvement in the system and at dealer/ shooter level.

....to give an example, went to a dealer who I've never been to , got 1000 rounds high velocity .22, pulled out my licences, and dealer says "your all right, I dont bother with those for the small stuff!!"

and what is it your moaning about .. if he didnt sell them to you you would be moaning about that ...

mcguiver

and what is it your moaning about .. if he didnt sell them to you you would be moaning about that ...

???????? I must be missing something here ???

"Moaning" ... or more aptly, commenting... that they should check my licence and every other shooters each time we buy ammo.

Irresponsible dealing will just bring more bad press on our sport/hobby.

Vegeta

mcguiver wrote:

Irresponsible dealing will just bring more bad press on our sport/hobby.

completely agree

the hunter

Irresponsible dealing will just bring more bad press on our sport/hobby.[/QUOTE]

yeah and you telling everyone wont help either ?????

Sparks

yeah and you telling everyone wont help either?

Yes it will because it'll stop it.
If dealers think that they can't do that, they won't do that.

the hunter

yeah sparks thats fine but what if you have to travel to get your ammo. or some people find it easier/cheaper to buy a couple of boxes ... did mcguiver still purchase the ammo or did he give it back and voice his disgust (did he ****)....so its ok for him to break the law having more than hes allowed to hold but its not ok for the dealer ???

Sparks

what if you have to travel to get your ammo. or some people find it easier/cheaper to buy a couple of boxes

Nothing wrong with that, just get the local garda to increase the limit on your licence. Most (read over 90%) will, when you explain why, and especially if you've somewhere secure to store them (cheap safe from Argos/Woodies for €20 would do the job really).

so its ok for him to break the law having more than hes allowed to hold but its not ok for the dealer ???

Of course not.

the hunter

so now can you see why i said mcguiver was moaning and it was a bad idea to post about the dealer .. do you really think if you say it to the dealer that he will stop ??

and i suppose you could ask the fo to increase your limit .. whats the most ever allowed (has anyone got a 1000 limit) ??? you must know sparks a 100 limit is'nt a lot . if your shooting a target 100 rounds would be gone in less than an hour ??

Sparks

whats the most ever allowed (has anyone got a 1000 limit) ??? you must know sparks a 100 limit is'nt a lot . if your shooting a target 100 rounds would be gone in less than an hour ??

Yup. Most of the serious olympic guys would have limits over 10,000 rounds, both because they shoot so much and because they get batch-tested ammo which has to be bought in lots of 10,000 rounds or more.

the hunter

Sparks wrote:

Yup. Most of the serious olympic guys would have limits over 10,000 rounds, QUOTE]


:eek: 10,000. jesus i could imagine the face on my fo if i applied for that much

Sparks

the hunter wrote:

Sparks wrote:

Yup. Most of the serious olympic guys would have limits over 10,000 rounds,

:eek: 10,000. jesus i could imagine the face on my fo if i applied for that much

That'd be 10,000 rounds of .22lr or air pellets now hunter, not .223 or .220 swift

Vegeta

Sparks wrote:

That'd be 10,000 rounds of .22lr or air pellets now hunter, not .223 or .220 swift

Do you get bulk discounts for buying that amount?

I wouldn't have the space to store it myself

the hunter

Sparks wrote:

That'd be 10,000 rounds of .22lr or air pellets now hunter, not .223 or .220 swift

ok .. mine is a .22lr still dont think id be allowed that much ...:D

Sparks

Vegeta wrote:

Do you get bulk discounts for buying that amount?

Ha!
No, but it does work out cheaper because of shipping and other cost reductions. Plus, you have to buy from the factory (you batch test at the factory), so you don't have the markup from the dealers and such.

I wouldn't have the space to store it myself

For air or .22, it's not that much space, surprisingly.

the hunter

whats the limit on your licence sparks ??

Sparks

For me it's just the standard hunter, I don't have batch tested ammo yet.

the hunter

are you into the air guns too

Sparks

Yup. (there's a note on my air rifle licence allowing for a thousand rounds there actually, because the tins of air pellets have 500 rounds in them)

the hunter

yeah i thought that .. you would be wasting your time with the air rifle with a 100 round limit . and i bet even though u have a 1000 limit at times you still dont have enough ....

Vegeta

so in a round about off topic way we have come back on topic.

More ammo on the license please

mcguiver

Just for the record
I did buy the ammo
Its well within my ammo limit, so I didnt break the law.
I did have words with the dealer...

But I think your right Hunter, I doubt it will change his way of doing things.

And I'd rather have the dealer operating responsibly rather than losing his permit and effecting all his customers.

the hunter

Vegeta wrote:

so in a round about off topic way we have come back on topic.

More ammo on the license please

the hunter

Its well within my ammo limit, so I didnt break the law.


?? whats your limit
how come you can have so much ????

mcguiver

1500 rounds.
Fairly decent firearms officer I deal with, wrote a letter to him a few years ago explaining that I take part in competitions, and having a couple of hundred rounds wouldn't be practical travelling from home etc.

1st year they automatically give you 100, but after that there's no harm asking.

I know lots of people who have a much higher limit.