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  • 25-07-2006 11:12am
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    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭


    Ok first off I have no idea about code etc. I want to learn something like dreamweaver, GoLive etc (i'm on a mac) but just have to get off my ass.

    At the moment I am using a app called FreeWay Pro, it was designed for use by people in the print industry, and the results are ok for what i want.

    Have a look and and feedback/suggestions would be great.

    www.spectralsightings.com

    cheers

    6th


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    #2
    vito
    Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭vito


    I'm no design expert but one thing I can tell you outright is that you have zero text on your page and therefore virtually zero chance of being picked up by any search engine. Also, from an accessibility point of view the site is extremely poor (also due to the zero text issue). You could also try introducing a little more colour to the site to highlight headers etc.


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    subway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭subway


    you need text.
    why would you use an image instead of text?
    what if you want to change something in future - rewite the whole lot?
    think of people on slow connections or with odd resolution monitors.


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    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    yeah thats the problem with FreeWay it saves everything down as text. Hence I'll be learning something like DreamWeaver. With regards to redoing it whenever i want to change text, thats not the case, its very quick to use and the set upo is great, its a bit like quark.

    Anyone any suggestions of programmes for a starter who doesnt know code (HTML etc)?


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    andrea
    Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭andrea


    First Page, like Dreamweaver lets you have a split window, so you can code on top and preview on bottom. Good for learning to code, you see what you're getting as you go. And it's free! Worth trying anyway before shelling out money on Dreamweaver. Coding directly gives you a lot more control over your results. It has a lot of sample snippets etc too, which may be helpful.

    http://www.evrsoft.com/download.shtml


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    Ph3n0m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ph3n0m


    6th wrote:
    yeah thats the problem with FreeWay it saves everything down as text. Hence I'll be learning something like DreamWeaver. With regards to redoing it whenever i want to change text, thats not the case, its very quick to use and the set upo is great, its a bit like quark.

    Anyone any suggestions of programmes for a starter who doesnt know code (HTML etc)?


    http://www.adobe.com/products/homesite/


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    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Ph3n0m wrote:
    http://www.adobe.com/products/homesite/

    Seems to only be for Windows?


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    Gordon
    Registered Users Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    What OS do you have - Linux?


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    richardo
    Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭richardo


    Gordon wrote:
    What OS do you have - Linux?

    Quote from his first post -
    I want to learn something like dreamweaver, GoLive etc (i'm on a mac) but just have to get off my ass.


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    Ph3n0m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ph3n0m


    Sorry I missed that.

    Yes Dreamweaver for Mac would be the best option

    HOWEVER - be careful - some people when they develop on a Mac, think their site looks good on Firefox - you must rememeber to test on a PC aswell - as that is what the majority of people use and furthermore, more people use IE then Firefox


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    Gordon
    Registered Users Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Right you are, sorry about that.

    How about Amaya. I'm not quite sure how easy it is to use as I hardly even looked at it, but it works for Mac.

    Tbh 6th, it's good to know Dreamweaver but if you want to move away from that pdf style layout (which you should) then Dreamweaver will most likely end up giving you niggly things that will change the way the site looks on various browsers. Hence it's best to understand the raw HTML. Therefore you're better off (in the long run) learning HTML and writing code on a text editor. (I recommend Text Wrangler for the Mac.

    I'm not sure if Phenom was hinting at this but Firefox on Mac and PC seems to render websites exactly the same in my experience.


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    Ph3n0m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ph3n0m


    Gordon wrote:
    I'm not sure if Phenom was hinting at this but Firefox on Mac and PC seems to render websites exactly the same in my experience.


    True, but the majority of people using computers are using PC -> some version of IE


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    Gordon
    Registered Users Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Ph3n0m wrote:
    True, but the majority of people using computers are using PC -> some version of IE
    Aye deffo.

    And IE for Mac:

    1) Really sucks and doesn't render sites anything like IE for PC
    2) Isn't being made anymore (last update was 3 or 4 years ago iirc)

    So you'll have to either get onto someone's PC to check the site out or get yourself Virtual PC.


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