New Killers song!

Jonny Arson

Listen to it 100% freegally here.... http://www.islandrecords.com/thekillers/site.html

I had an almost violent argument with a friend today over whether this song is any good or not (I think it's great!) so I'm wondering what is the consensus over When You Were Young? I think it's yet another great piece of anthemic synth pop from The Killers abliet sounding exactly like a missing track off Hot Fuss but in saying that if they can still come up with the goods why change so soon! So will The Killers continue their mainstream domination?

Xavi6

Well it certainly doesnt immediately hold the attention the way Mr. Brightside or Somebody Told Me first did. For me it's nothing like the first album.

It seems to be missing something, like a killer bass line a la Jenny Was A Friend Of Mine. It's ok but not amazing.

Tha Gopher

The Killers are quite possibly the most irrelevant pointless band of the new millennium thus far. I didnt think anyone over 17 even listened to them.

Googoodoll

Heard it awhile ago then heard it again on the radio 2day..Its one of them song that is growing on me!!

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

Tha Gopher wrote:

The Killers are quite possibly the most irrelevant pointless band of the new millennium thus far. I didnt think anyone over 17 even listened to them.

IT's funny cos it's true.

iFight

Yea, i like it, not as much as their others, but it is good

Xavi6

Tha Gopher wrote:

The Killers are quite possibly the most irrelevant pointless band of the new millennium thus far.

Would you care to expand?

I'm not the biggest fan but surely Mr. Brightside is a far better song than 99%of the drivle radio listeners are subjected to on a daily basis. A bit of commercialism doesnt make them irrelevent and the use of synth in their songs is a nice throw back to the 80s that I for one appreciate.

I'd agree so much as to say they aren't exactly groundbreaking but the title of most pointless band is a bit much. Worse than Busted, McFly, The Darkness etc?

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

I think it's yet another great piece of anthemic synth pop from The Killers

Synthpop? The most dominant instrument in there by FAAAAR is the GuitAAAAR...this song is rock gg.

crosstownk

I think The Killers are quite good. Hot Fuss is a great album. As long as the next album doesn't sound the same they should do OK. Great use of keyboards in a rock band, imo.

Tha Gopher

Xavi6 wrote:

Would you care to expand?

I'm not the biggest fan but surely Mr. Brightside is a far better song than 99%of the drivle radio listeners are subjected to on a daily basis. A bit of commercialism doesnt make them irrelevent and the use of synth in their songs is a nice throw back to the 80s that I for one appreciate.

I'd agree so much as to say they aren't exactly groundbreaking but the title of most pointless band is a bit much. Worse than Busted, McFly, The Darkness etc?

"Somebody told me, that you had a boyfriend
He looks like a girlfriend, that I had in February of last year....."


Im not sure I have ever heard more retarded lyricism. It makes whatever the latest Chillis generic number one is sound relevant. Long haired American fcuktards who make music for 13 year old girls. At least the members of McFly and Busted probably know their music is ludicrous and cheesy and are in it purely for the money. Id say The Killers actually take themselves seriously, which makes it even worse.

Just my 2 cents

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

I agree with the majority of the above. I genuinely have more respect for Busted then RHCP.

Nidge

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI wrote:

I agree with the majority of the above. I genuinely have more respect for Busted then RHCP.

I'd have more respect for you if you could distinguish between "then" and "than". In fairness RHCPs make much better music than Busted, they do not target children with their records at all like the aforementioned band. If you're referring to lack of substance in lyrics, that may be his style it might mean something to Kiedis himself, there are plenty of famous musicians who write what appear to be non-sensical lyrics and are still revered for their lyrics or other aspects of their music. Most lyrics are written to carry a melody, those of RHCPs are no where near as bad as that of Busted or any of Busted's copycats.

odhran

Maybe you should worry about your own grammar instead of criticising other people's. :rolleyes: To get back on topic, I'm not too crazy about the song. It seems to me like a blatant attempt by the band to cash in on the success of Hot Fuss instead of trying to develop their sound. Just my own opinion though...

Nidge

odhran wrote:

Maybe you should worry about your own grammar instead of criticising other people's. :rolleyes: To get back on topic, I'm not too crazy about the song. It seems to me like a blatant attempt by the band to cash in on the success of Hot Fuss instead of trying to develop their sound. Just my own opinion though...

I don't think I have to, it seems fine. Aside from an optional comma that may be added to my last post I don't believe you could fault me. I was demonstrating that he seemed to respect Busted more than RHCPs for as trivial a reason as their motivation to play music (a bad one at that, i.e. money-making), rather than for their actual music, seems ridiculous to respect someone with that type of an agenda. I simply copied that by saying I'd respect him more for something as stupid; if his grammar was better.

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

Nidge wrote:

I'd have more respect for you if you could distinguish between "then" and "than".

OH NO. I lost respect from you because I misspelled a word, in what has been an otherwise reasonably fruitful career of posting coherent replies on boards. For you see, there is no respect I value more than that that springs forth from an internet pedant. I think I'm going to go scrape my face off with a set of car keys in a fit of existential angst.

Nidge wrote:

In fairness RHCPs make much better music than Busted.

That's just your opinion, albeit one you're entitled to.

Nidge wrote:

. I was demonstrating that he seemed to respect Busted more than RHCPs for as trivial a reason as their motivation to play music (a bad one at that, i.e. money-making), rather than for their actual music

I don't think it's ridiculous. Not when we're discussing pop music anyway.

Nidge

Haha, you guys are taking my comment on the grammar FAR too seriously. Don't worry, I don't know you, respect doesn't even come into this. I was just using your sentence as an example. Well I don't think any person in their late teens onwards could genuinely say there's more to the music of Busted than there is in that of RHCPs, but maybe that's just my opinion :rolleyes: . Either way I don't think there's much point talking about music with people who believe making music for the money is a credible or respectable motivation. Oh the existential malaise of it all, I just don't fit in anywhere...*weeps*

gustavo

Cant stop listening to the song its great! Very Springsteenish

lordgoat

gustavo wrote:

Cant stop listening to the song its great! Very Springsteenish

Are you waiting for someone to tell you you're so clever as it's been in every interview on the net saying how much they love bruce and are trying to copy his sound... Have an apple. This song will be murdered by the radio and in a few years time they'll be forgotten.

Off topic
To paraphrase Nick Cave - THe Red Hot Chilli Peppers are whats wrong with music today...

Topic
The song is cock.

gustavo

lordgoat wrote:

Are you waiting for someone to tell you you're so clever as it's been in every interview on the net saying how much they love bruce and are trying to copy his sound... Have an apple. This song will be murdered by the radio and in a few years time they'll be forgotten.

Off topic
To paraphrase Nick Cave - THe Red Hot Chilli Peppers are whats wrong with music today...

Topic
The song is cock.

Well arent we very smart !
No I wasnt waiting for someone to tell me how clever I was just making a comment. :rolleyes:

Nidge

Off topic; would you care to explain what he or you meant by that quote? I think all this RHCP bashing is much like that of George W. bashing, it's just a fad at this stage. Everyone seems to think it's highly cool to give out about and hate both. Not that I'm pro-Bush, I'm just using the tired criticism of him as a comparison. I think more the likes of bubble-gum pop, mainstream "R'n'B" and televised band-making shows are what's wrong with music today, maybe I'm just alone on this one too.

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

Nidge wrote:

Off topic; would you care to explain what he or you meant by that quote? I think all this RHCP bashing is much like that of George W. bashing, it's just a fad at this stage. Everyone seems to think it's highly cool to give out about and hate both. Not that I'm pro-Bush, I'm just using the tired criticism of him as a comparison. I think more the likes of bubble-gum pop, mainstream "R'n'B" and televised band-making shows are what's wrong with music today, maybe I'm just alone on this one too.

You're absolutely right of course. The reason why I slag RHCP, along with the reasoning behind pretty much every decision I ever make, no matter how major/minor is based on my love of following fads and I am incapable of making up my own mind about such things.

Xavi6

I fairness the Chilis deserve a good bashing, particularly in light of their ripping off of a Tom Petty song for Dani Califronia. Oh and spesking of which, isn't the whole singing about California thing getting a bit old, just like the Chilis????

Nidge

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI wrote:

You're absolutely right of course. The reason why I slag RHCP, along with the reasoning behind pretty much every decision I ever make, no matter how major/minor is based on my love of following fads and I am incapable of making up my own mind about such things.

Oh I'm sorry you're really different, just like everyone else. It may well be your opinion, but it's the same attitude that alot of people seem to have towards them at the moment, it seems to have come in a flood as far as I can see. Most conversations I've had with Chili haters go like this: Chilis hater-"RHCPs are ****", me- "Why do you say so?", Chilis hater- "because they are". I can accept saying they don't like them, but as yet I haven't received a reason why.
I'm aware of the plagiarism suit, they do sound identical. But they've been going for 20 something years and have had 9 albums, of course they're going to start overlapping what's already been written whether it's their own or the music of others. It's going to happen if you're influenced by someone, presumably at least one of the band members listens to Petty. If none of them do then it's pure coincidence, everyone knows how limited music is there are so many keys and notes. It happens to all bands, Coldplay sound the same as themselves and also plagiarise bits here and there from the music of others. Plagiarism is all over popular music and people lap it up, now the RHCPs do it there's uproar.
In relation to getting old about talking about California, well it's where they live of course they're going to write about it! In fairness you wouldn't notice only for the fact they use the place names in their songs. You'd swear talking about revolution, the end and speaking out against Bush'd get old but Muse, Green Day, Travis, Eminem and George Michael all did it to some extent. All bands have a general sound that people know them for, they also tend to have links in their lyrics. You seem to be criticising RHCPs for things that all bands are guilty of.

Xavi6

Nidge wrote:

You seem to be criticising RHCPs for things that all bands are guilty of.

Unfortunately though, the Chilis are not only guilty of regurgitating other people's music, they now do the same with their own. Every single now seems to follow the funky bass style verse breaking into a melodic chorus with the odd guitar loop thrown in. I think people have just gotten bored with it.

Personally I think it's possible to tell if a band are on the decline when they start touring every year. Chili's in Dublin '07? My money's on it.

Nidge

I'm not too fond of the singles they brought out for Stadium, but I think that happens to all songs when you hear them too much. That and I think they are a false representation of the album. I don't believe a person could say that the rest of the songs on the album sound samey. It happens with all bands that singles tend to have the same energy and then there's the inevitable "slow song" or ballad release.
Basically I think all bands find their song-writing formula and they've found theirs after years of being more about energy and improvisation, every band does what works for them. There's a limit to how different a song you can make if the line-up stays the same, as I said before they've been around for a 5th of a century.
I think they tour alot because they like doing so, I hate bands that do gigs that almost seem like one-off affairs "see you in 2010!!!". Tool are only coming now after 12 years or so, Daft Punk practically don't tour at all and System of a Down despite their double album and albums before that haven't been here publicly since Ozzfest.
I fully believe they'll be back in 2007 (RHCPs), Frusciante even said so at oxegen. Considering the amount of bands and the type of crowd they expected they had to tailor their set for a festival audience, I'd expect all bands to want to play their own gig purely for their fans and so they can play more off their new albums. Loads of bands do do it, Wolfmother played Oxegen they're playing in the coming months, the same with We Are Scientists. Both Green Day and the Foo Fighters had their own gigs before or after Oxegen last year. The only reason RHCPs will be doing it next year is because they've got their whole tour ahead of them.

lordgoat

Nidge wrote:

Off topic; would you care to explain what he or you meant by that quote?

Google it!

The reason i don't like these shower of i can't say the c word here, is every single they've brought out for the last 10 years is pretty much the same format, and sounds incredibly the same. Nick Cave says this so much better though. Its not interesting music. I really have said far more than this than i want to.

Killers song is still boring, in a RHCP kinda way.

magpie

Apparently this was leaked by the reccid company to get Brandon Flowers to pull his finger out and finish the mixes on the album. So there!

As for the RHCP? Terrible Dublin-Radio-friendly twaddle. Like their butties the Fun Lovin' Criminals I'm sure they can't believe their luck any time they come over here, as they would have difficulty getting arrested in any sane music-loving country.

Rockee

magpie wrote:

As for the RHCP? Terrible Dublin-Radio-friendly twaddle. Like their butties the Fun Lovin' Criminals I'm sure they can't believe their luck any time they come over here, as they would have difficulty getting arrested in any sane music-loving country.

Hahaha!!! Well put. Imagine saying to someone in the States here for a holiday "Huey from the Fun Lovin' Criminals' owns that pub!!!!' 'Er..who?' As for the Chilis they shouldve retired 10 years ago but no doubt we'll have another Dublin RHCP gig next summer. What was that movie? Oh yes 'Groundhog Day.' The Killers songs is only ok I must admit and I was a big fan of 'Hot Fuss'