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80 km/h for new drivers - how do you spell "eejits"?

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  • #52
    RandomOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭RandomOne


    eachtrannach wrote:

    As to zero alcohol limit for new drivers (and obviously L-drivers) - you have my full support here. And please don't anybody whine that this would endanger their pint after work ...

    Why stop there. Some of Europe has a zero limit for alcohol on all drivers.

    I can't honestly see a 80km restriction on learners achieving any significant safety benefits. Having never been a learner here, I'm really surprised to find provisional drivers driving as if they were qualified and thinking nothing of it. A serious crackdown on this would seem a more beneficial measure. Equally, if they're driving around solo and this isn't being recognised/enforced, how are they going to enforce only learner drivers to a speed limit - either way, you have to know it's a learner driver to know they're breaking the rules.


  • #53
    eachtrannach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43 ✭eachtrannach


    RandomOne wrote:
    ... either way, you have to know it's a learner driver to know they're breaking the rules.

    I am sure there will be some boffin able to develop a speed camera that automatically takes biometrical data off the driver's face and compares it to a central database ... or, lacking this, the Gardai simply would stop everybody going over 80 km/h and ask for a driving license. Which would make traffic safer, because traffic would not be moving ...


  • #54
    corktina
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    i think there is a case for reducing all speed limits anyway.....after all if noone went over 80, lives would be saved......USA has a general limit of 55 mph doesnt it?


  • #55
    eachtrannach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43 ✭eachtrannach


    corktina wrote:
    i think there is a case for reducing all speed limits anyway.....after all if noone went over 80, lives would be saved......USA has a general limit of 55 mph doesnt it?

    No case, sorry - Germany has no speed limits on the Autobahn, 100 km/h on main roads and 50 km/h in cities ... death on the roads "per capita" is lower than in Ireland. Then again Germany has a strict driver testing regime and a far better rescue service.

    Speed limits in the US are higher than 55 mph on Interstates.


  • #56
    jd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭jd


    eachtrannach wrote:
    Speed limits in the US are higher than 55 mph on Interstates.
    Yeah quite often 75 (if not 80)..
    jd


  • #57
    Sarn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭Sarn


    80 km/h for new drivers could never be enforced with matters as they are now.

    I know several provisional license holders who do not display any L plates. Unless they get pulled over for a random check they are not going to be caught. Their reason for not displaying plates is to avoid hassle from other drivers and drive on motorways.

    Incidentally, I have read several articles in papers on traffic accidents where the fact that the driver only held a provisional has been highlighted (unfortunately we cannot assume that just because an article doesn't state this status that it refers to fully qualified drivers).


  • #58
    Irish Salfordia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Irish Salfordia


    Wheteher or not YOU feel you have a right to drive is not really your choice to make. Excuses about jobs, and other travel that HAS to be performed are not helping in the whole learner driver problem.

    In many countries in Europe you are not allowed to drive in any situation until you have passed your driving test. This often means a course of comulsory lessons which have to be taken with an approved driving school, and signed off by the school to say that you have reached an 'acceptable' standard suitable for you to attemp your test. We have a very casual attitude to road and other laws and often do what we want to do because we all know that there is so little enforcement we are 'unlikely' to get caught.


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