Sinn Fein representative on Live Line

darkman2

Hi, anyone hear this guy on Live Line today looking for the freedom of the city for the beauties that took it upon themselves to cause milllions of euro's damage to American military aircraft in Shannon?:mad: :mad: He said 'Dubliners support this' - I dont feckin support this and neither do most of the ppl I know. The cheek of him to make that comment. Were used to the usual Sinn Fein bulls**t but this really riled me up. What a bunch of morons:mad: :mad: :mad:

P.S I know its harsh but its true and im really pi*sed off with these guys at this stage.

Nuttzz

Im sure he will have no objection to Jean McConville getting the freedom of the city either....

LeinsterPar

yes, long live the CIA funded planes bringing people off to torture!

thank god someone had the balls to do something when our lying government tells us ireland is neutral, yet accomodates the US in its dirty war.

LeinsterPar

Nuttzz wrote:

Im sure he will have no objection to Jean McConville getting the freedom of the city either....

... and how prey tell, have you worked that out? oh i get it .... SF murdered mrs mcconville. amazing deduction.

Nuttzz

indeed, god bless peaceful protest....

CiaranC

Wont somebody think of those poor, poor US warplanes in all this

darkman2

Nuttzz wrote:

Im sure he will have no objection to Jean McConville getting the freedom of the city either....

He did quiver his voice when asked about IRA terrorism.:rolleyes: The usual (what they think is populist) Sinn Fein stupidity circus every single time something like this comes up. No answer to anything except to say that the Working classes are so downtrodden that what we need is to oust the Capitalists and bring in the Cuban style communism. Muppets, all of them.

LeinsterPar

wow - you must listen to strange Shinners then. cuban communism? where the hell did you get that from?

darkman2

LeinsterPar wrote:

wow - you must listen to strange Shinners then. cuban communism? where the hell did you get that from?

Do you know whom Gerry Adams is very friendly with?. Have you seen that parties tax policies? Have you heard about the 'redistribution of wealth'?

mike65

I heard that and had to surpress a chortle, it always kills me when I hear provos bigging up those who protest against suddden death by bomb or bullet.

Mike.

LeinsterPar

darkman2 wrote:

Do you know whom Gerry Adams is very friendly with?. Have you seen that parties tax policies? Have you heard about the 'redistribution of wealth'?

have you? who is adams friendly with? what about their tax policies? (which state that those on a higher income are taxed more than those on a low income - makes sense to me) and yes I have heard about the redistribution of weath but whats that got to do with Sinn Fein? Are you basing your thoughts on blatent hearsay or can you point me to documentation that says SF are marxist and/or communist? Nope, I didnt think you could.

CiaranC

He is friendly with Fidel. Their tax policies include an end to low corporation tax in order to move away from multinational to indigenous industry. They most certainly are quasi marxist policies.

LeinsterPar

anything with a social leaning could be called quasi marxist. I'd like to know where the communism fits in.

Nuttzz

LeinsterPar wrote:

I'd like to know where the communism fits in.

well kick it off with nationalising the banks

Tom65

LeinsterPar wrote:

yes, long live the CIA funded planes bringing people off to torture!

thank god someone had the balls to do something when our lying government tells us ireland is neutral, yet accomodates the US in its dirty war.

I don't support the war or US planes/troops passing through Shannon. However, as far as I'm aware the planes were radar planes, not torture. Secondly, is it right in a neutral country to go and attack another countries property?

Dg101

<In best Gerry Adams voice>
I am not in the politics of condemnation..

No, I am when it comes to Sinn Féin. If you ask economists about their economic policies they'll start crying at the thought. But more on topic, Sinn Féin roll out people supporting semi radical positions in order to get more public attention. Kinda like shouting children, don't encourage them by letting it get to you.

I wonder, are Sinn Féin the trolls of politics?

*muses on Sinn Féins flamebaiting system of politics*

Malone

Another boring anti Sinn Fein thread,do the Blue Shirts and PDs on this board have anything else to talk about.

Sgt. Sensible

mike65 wrote:

I heard that and had to surpress a chortle, it always kills me when I hear provos bigging up those who protest against suddden death by bomb or bullet.

Mike.

I wouldn't be so smug. Are they any more ridiculous than people who fanatically support what Israel is doing to Lebanon or what the US/UK are doing to Iraq no matter how much stuff is destroyed or how many civilian casualties there are.

darkman2

Malone wrote:

Another boring anti Sinn Fein thread,do the Blue Shirts and PDs on this board have anything else to talk about.

If your looking for advice - dont ever presume to know what someone's political outlook is. Of course this rubbish is typical of SF supporters. Sinn Fein dont hold a monopoly on Republicanism or Nationalism. They have damaged and degraded it. The less said about supporters of terrorism and criminality the better in my view.

darkman2

Sgt. Sensible wrote:

I wouldn't be so smug. Are they any more ridiculous than people who fanatically support what Israel is doing to Lebanon or what the US/UK are doing to Iraq no matter how much stuff is destroyed or how many civilian casualties there are.

No one here said they supported it.

Sgt. Sensible

darkman2 wrote:

No one here said they supported it.

I'm not referring to anyone here, not deliberately anyway. I was thinking primarily of the PDs attitude to violence.

saoranach

darkman2 wrote:

Sinn Fein dont hold a monopoly on Republicanism or Nationalism. They have damaged and degraded it. The less said about supporters of terrorism and criminality the better in my view.

The "Repulic of Ireland" was brought about because what people would call terrorists and criminals fought and died for it.

darkman2

saoranach wrote:

The "Repulic of Ireland" was brought about because what people would call terrorists and criminals fought and died for it.

Are you seriously trying to equate this country's founding fathers with the scumbags that up till very recently ran riot up north??:eek: Or how about the thugs that ran riot on O'Connell st for a new pair of runners. Their SF supporters apparently.....

darkman2

Sgt. Sensible wrote:

I'm not referring to anyone here, not deliberately anyway. I was thinking primarily of the PDs attitude to violence.

I dont think thats the PD's attitude either tbh. PPL seem to have twisted veiws of the PD's IMHO (i dont support them btw).

Jackie laughlin

Darkman2,
If by the "founding fathers of this state" you mean Pearse, DeValera, Collins etc., then, yes, I would equate them with the current crop of SF/IRA nutters. They have a number of features in common: undemocratic, blood lust, no understanding of Irish culture, delusions of grandeur (armies, courts etc.) fascism ... That'll do for now.

The Irish Republic was initiated by the Prime Minister of the Irish Free State.

SF/IRA policy on anything should be taken as a tactic: 30 odd years of slaughter in the pursuit of a united Ireland has resulted in whinging at not being allowed become ministers in Stormont; posing as socialists in Dublin, while keeping firmly nationalist while fund raising in New York.

The real patriots include Parnell, Redmond, Johnson, Hume ...

Mick86

darkman2 wrote:

Hi, anyone hear this guy on Live Line today looking for the freedom of the city for the beauties that took it upon themselves to cause milllions of euro's damage to American military aircraft in Shannon?.....

No I change channels when those muppets come on. They never have anything to say anyway.

Flex

Jackie laughlin wrote:

Darkman2,
If by the "founding fathers of this state" you mean Pearse, DeValera, Collins etc., then, yes, I would equate them with the current crop of SF/IRA nutters. They have a number of features in common: undemocratic, blood lust, no understanding of Irish culture, delusions of grandeur (armies, courts etc.) fascism ... That'll do for now.

Yea, those assholes who wanted Ireland to be an independant country. If it wasnt for them, we could all be British citizens right now, but instead we have poxy Irish citizenship :mad: *end sarasm*

The real patriots include Parnell, Redmond, Johnson, Hume ...

How was Redmond a 'real patriot'?

Would I be right in assuming that your problem is that youre a pacifist and dont believe anything is worth dying/fighting for?

oscarBravo

Flex wrote:

Would I be right in assuming that your problem is that youre a pacifist...

I can't recall ever seeing pacifism referred to as a problem before.

Flex wrote:

...and dont believe anything is worth dying/fighting for?

If you change the question to "...don't believe anything is worth dying/killing for?" - it doesn't sound quite so noble, does it?

Mick86

Flex wrote:

Yea, those assholes who wanted Ireland to be an independant country. If it wasnt for them, we could all be British citizens right now, but instead we have poxy Irish citizenship :mad: *end sarasm*

Would it make much difference to your life if your local TD had to go to London rather than Dublin to represent you. What difference did "freedom" or independence make to the ordinary Joe Soap? Not much in my opinion. The history of this country since 1922 hasn't exactly been one of unremitting glory what with institutional corruption, child rape, widespread poverty (until recently anyway) and mass emigration. You name it we suffered it. What kind of freedom is that?

Jackie laughlin

Pacifism isn't a "problem" and I'm certainly not a pacifist.

All political violence in Ireland for, say, the past century was unwarranted. 1916 and the war of independence obtained a Free State in a divided Ireland rather than Home Rule in a united Ireland. The Free State then became a republic peaceably by declaring itself so. SF/IRA hi-jacked the civil rights movement and turned to terrorism to achieve an end to partition. Now they want to be Stormont ministers!

The violent nutters of this country have done nothing but set back freedom and republicanism.

Brian Capture

so guys

how is the Omagh bombing justified?

it was carried out by republicans for what cause?