Uefa Cup draw

KevIRL

Start (Nor) V Drogheda

Big Ears

Start(Norway) v Drogheda United
Gretna(Scotland) v Derry City
Ventspils(Latvia) v Newcastle United
Odense(Denmark) v Llanelli

KevIRL

Derry V Gretna

patmac

Great chance for both Getna Div 1, Start are currently in 12th in Norway.

radiospan

Is it true that Derry and Drogheda's wins against HJK and IFK don't count towards Ireland's UEFA co-efficient?

I think I read somewhere that the UEFA Cup qualifying rounds don't count? It's a shame because they already have 3 wins and a draw between them, with surely at least another draw to come (probably a win against Gretna though)

The games against Gretna and Start are the second qualifying round.

patmac

plazzTT wrote:

Is it true that Derry and Drogheda's wins against HJK and IFK don't count towards Ireland's UEFA co-efficient?

I think I read somewhere that the UEFA Cup qualifying rounds don't count? It's a shame because they already have 3 wins and a draw between them, with surely at least another draw to come (probably a win against Gretna though)

The games against Gretna and Start are the second qualifying round.

Qualifying rounds count half points towards Co-effiicent.

marius

KevIRL wrote:

Derry V Gretna

I can see the headlines now...
'Derry strike it luck with Glamour tie'

finnpark

Don't underestimate Gretna. Very unlucky against Hearts in final and progressive. Howver, they are still in pre-season and have just been beaten 3-0 by a conference side. They do need to score away, the away goal is vital. Hope RTE/Sky show the match, its very interesting. Gretna would probably be Bohemians standard, so it could go either way.

Drogs have got a Norwegian side. Usually these sies are not great but when it comes to Europe they produce the goods. They will have a new coach and are certainly on the up plus they are not pre season so it is difficult also but like the Derry match it is overcomable.

Hopefully at least one of the teams will scrape through to the next round. Wonder will Derry be favourites?

Töpher

Start have 15pts from 14games so far...

Big Ears

plazzTT wrote:

Is it true that Derry and Drogheda's wins against HJK and IFK don't count towards Ireland's UEFA co-efficient?

No they don't count towards the club coefficiant , they do count for the country however(just points are halved for qualifying games)

'Hopefully at least one of the teams will scrape through to the next round. Wonder will Derry be favourites?'

I agree hopefully one team scrapes through.................but the other should get through easier . We can realisticly look at both teams going through because the opposition really isn't that great . I'd have Derry as favourites , but that's just me .

treefingers

derry are definately favourites. gretna are 1st div in scotland for gods sake. i don't think they will be a pushover or anything, but i expect derry to score at least once away, and win comfortably at home.

lived in scotland for the last 5 months, and saw quite a bit of scottish football, including much of gretnas cup campaign. no great shakes. i think they are being overestimated - its the best draw derry could have gotten imo...

obviously no one knows much about start, but i would imagine drogheda have a fair chance. i don't think they will be better than helsinki....

KdjaCL

Anyone here seen Derry play?

:rolleyes:


Would expect both El teams to go tru, nice draw for them.


kdjac

finnpark

Interestingly enough Dubliner Breandan McGill plays down the right wing for Gretna. Hes a decent player. His only mistake was to join a club managed by Roddy Chancer Collins when he joined Craisle and got relegated with them. Gretna fans seem to be extremely confident of going through. Match is played at Fir Park with 1000 Derry fans expected to travel.

Start finished 2nd in Norway last year so I would think their current standing may not be a fair reflection as the top few sides in Norway tend to be very good. Rosonborg were down near the foot of the table when they played Bohs I think and they thumped Bohs. An away goal is essential for the Drogs there.

10 co-efficient points required to get a bye into next round of Champions League so an average of +2pts per year required.