cell mate

r3nu4l

bohsboy wrote:

He must stand down.

LOL, a member of the Dáil taking responsibility for their actions? Now there's a good one, surely this should be in the humour forum?

Seriously, I don't care what the guy had done to get himself locked up, he asked for protection, the prison officers seemed to warrant it was needed and did the best they could. There should have been a better facility to give him the protection he obviously needed.

I wonder what he did to merit that? Disputes go on all the time and people get beaten up all the time but is looks like this guy knew he was a dead man walking and that the prison officers knew it too!

bohsboy

How could the officers know he had a problem with that guy in the cell when he refused to say who he was in fear of? Mountjoy has not got the facilities to cope with protection prisoners and management have been informed on a continual basis. It's all recorded and documented. Heads will roll over this. Hopefully McDowells.

John Mason

Sorry people, but if you act like an animal you deserve to die like one .......i have no sympathy for any of the scumbags in mountjoy. i have a family member in there and if he was murdered in there i wont care .........they are all scum

r3nu4l

bohsboy wrote:

How could the officers know he had a problem with that guy in the cell when he refused to say who he was in fear of? Mountjoy has not got the facilities to cope with protection prisoners and management have been informed on a continual basis. It's all recorded and documented. Heads will roll over this. Hopefully McDowells.

I agree and do hope that there are serious repercussions out of this but from what we know the officers did the best they could in the circumstances.

Unfortunately I imagine that the prison officers will get disciplined while McDowell appears on Morning Ireland to say how sorry he is for the family and how terrible it all is before returning to his office to check his emails before a nice slap up lunch payed for by the taxpayer-funded expense account! :mad:

InFront

bohsboy wrote:

Well, only one person to blame here and it's our Minister for Justice.

I would have said the killer himself, actually.

Pyr0

Degsy wrote:

Its also a fact that its the whole environment of prison is dehumanising.You're treated like scum anyway,you have to sleep in a cell with maybe three other people with an aluminium pot to **** in,you have to listen to them fart,rant,rave,scream and vomit throught cold turkey,talk about themselves all ****in night or insit onplaying the radio when your trying to sleep.In the morning your roared out of your cell then you've to goa nad empty your piss pot befor you collect your breakfast then your locked up again for two hours.AND your day is only beginning.Imagine teh prosepct of that every day for 18 months,it would turn the mind of the sanest person.And thats without all the other crap that conspires to make life unbearable..lack of contact with your family,terrible food,filth and dirt everywhere to say nothing of the lunatics who have nothing to lose strutting around as if they're god,the drugs and the stink.The system is designed to make you feel like you'r enot aperson anymore and in the case of a lot of the blokes in there they no longer are,they've become institutionalised predators without any redeeming features whatsoever.

That reminds me of the program Oz that was on tv3 awhile back, savage program.

bealbocht

I was going to start a thread with "6 men in a small locked room. One gets murdered, and the Guards send out for Hercule Poirot"

Dosent seem so simple now, after reading some of this thread

Pigman II

bealbocht wrote:

I was going to start a thread with "6 men in a small locked room. One gets murdered, and the Guards send out for Hercule Poirot"

No need! I've already worked out that Colonel Mustard did it with the candlestick holder.

Tha Gopher

CJX-3X12 wrote:

I wouldn't like to go to jail.

Wow, me neither! My interests include beer, girls and watching tv. How about you? :rolleyes:

re the hash drought, I havent smoked in over 2 weeks, when I was lookin it was a few days away but Ive been so busy I havent even bothered. re the profitability, I dunno, fair enough it takes longer to shift the stuff but as popular as coke is its nowhere near as big as hash, and therefore as much if not more profit. Just the big busts Id imagine

Tha Gopher

re the prison drug trade, exactly how does it work? Prisoners only get some pocket money to buy newspapers and fags from the shop, so where do they get the cash inside to fund a drug habit? And what incentive is there to sell? If some guy is walking out of Mountjoy on the last day of his sentence and they find 5000 euro of drug profits stuffed down his pants surely it would be seized?

Brian Capture

bohsboy wrote:

Well, only one person to blame here and it's our Minister for Justice.

B*LLOCKS.

The Minister For Justice was nowhere that guy's cell.

julep wrote:

however, the guy who killed him is actually responsible for his death.

YES

So many people are missing this very obvious point.

thebaz

according to the Sunday Times , some prisoners who had been in the cell, are going to sue Mountjoy, on the grounds that the prison was inhumane , and are currently on leave, i.e. not in jail . In comparison to others here, i would see myself as a liberal, but if this case is successfull it could empty serious offenders out of the joy onto our streets. The guy who murdered Douch, should be locked up for life , NEVER released , i now see why the U.S. have the death penalty , some people are just pure evil.

pback1

bohsboy wrote: »

Well, only one person to blame here and it's our Minister for Justice. For three years, officers have made reports regarding these holding cells, stating how unsafe they are and passed these on to management. These cells have been overflowing on a nightly basis and it was only a matter of time before something like this kicked off. Only two months ago, the Inspector of Prisons voiced his concerns to the minister about the very cell which was being used to hold 27 prisoners only ten days ago. The Minister did nothing. He shut down three prisons in 2003 to cut the bills and has left the system in dissaray. He must stand down.

What are conditions like now, better or worse. Are people in for non violent crimes kept away from the trouble. How easy to get a transfer etc. Is the drugs problem as bad as we are told. How overcrowded is it?

WellyJ

It has been over a year since anyone posted in this thread,

Dont drag up old threads.