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slasher_65

So. we must find out who keeps changing the wikipedia entry. i suggest that the next time that it gets changed, we all mail wikipedia with complaints. also, it might be a good idea for everyone to .txt the webpage, and if things get changed copy paste it back into it.

i think that i have managed to get everything back to normal again.

Feral Mutant

It's just gonna get edited again. They deleted a lot of the old stuff cos it was apparently unencyclopaedic. I didn't really have an opinion on it but a lot of the new stuff definitely is. Not that I'm not intrigued by the idea of an online angry mob but if we keep changing it back, the article's gonna get locked.

PurpleFistMixer

What's wrong with the entry?
I've not read it but... well, I figure they'd have a good reason to delete things?

Feral Mutant

Link
Btw Slasher_65, it looks like the article was changed back.

PurpleFistMixer

Don't see anything wrong with that.

Traditions are too murky a subject to put on an encyclopedia, I think...

Raphael

Wow, there's actually a good wiki entry up, that's a first.

Edit: Also, whoever keeps threatening Demiurge and the other people editing, they're an utter prat. "OMG, hw dr u try 2 mk de ncyclpdia lk lyk n ncyclpdia!!!!!!!!!one"

Aoibheann

Noticed that entry some time back (though people keep trying to change it back to nostalgia-y stuff), it's much better left as that. An entry filled with traditions, nostalgia and in-jokes is not at all what an encyclopedia is supposed to be. So leave it as it is guys, mmk?

Piste

I preffered the entry when there were descriptions of each course on it, it gave a more detailed explaination of what CTYI is about.

RefulgentGnomon

I agree but maybe a direct link to the page on the CTYI site would suffice, i.e. put this at the bottom...i don't know...

Here is an example of a former entry for those who are confused, found using the 'History' tab on the page:

==CTYI traditions==
- The CTYI song is American Pie, by folk legend Don McLean, and it is sung at the end of every weekly disco. Everyone (all 200+) gets into a circle and put their arms around each others' shoulders to sing it. They also kick off their shoes at the correct moment. It is customary to shoulder anyone who screams (like the children in the song) in the second-last verse.
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- In the middle of each weekly disco the song Street Spirit is played. Students then lie on the floor and wave their arms slowly in the air until it ends. In 2005 a busker named James Avery was requested by a large number of CTYI students at a reunion to play the song. He did so in front of Fusiliers arch (an entrance to St Stephen's Green, Dublin) and the students lay down, waving their arms to the song. They were asked whether they were members of a cult and one old woman is said to have remarked
- "Those poor misguided souls".
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- Other traditions include sitting in doorways, stealing cutlery, mattresses and toasters, and constructing large buildings from plastic cups (or, where appropriate, from little jam containers - a Jamamid - or small cereal boxes).
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- Animosity is traditionally shown towards the 'Sportalians' (also known as 'Spit'alians),Spanish, Portuguese and Italian students who stay in DCU during the Summer sessions. The 'Sportalians' are known among CTYI students for loud behaviour, drinking, smoking, illuminous bag-packs and wearing sunglasses indoors.
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- The Game.
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- Another unusal custom was prevelent during the 2005 session when many students founded there own countries. The largest and most powerful was invernia ruled by The Dark Lord Kierannus Tyrannus(Kieran Duffy).
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- Several songs have had their lyrics altered to be about CTYI. Songs that have received this honour so far include YMCA, Hallelujah and Delirium Tremens.
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- Many CTYIzens celebrate ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' every Thursday, the day the Earth was destroyed in certain universes by Vogons, by carrying around a towel and wearing a dressing gown.
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- Americans are discouraged from attempting Gaelic Football and the Irish are discouraged from playing dodgeball.
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- Another CTYI tradition involves the attachment of "Ultimate" onto activities in an effort to make them seem more interesting than they actually are. Examples of this are Ultimate Board Games, Ultimate Discussion, Ultimate Packing and Ultimate Dolphin Appreciation.
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- Some students also bend spoons stolen from the Canteen, and wear them like bracelets around their wrists.
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- Students who are aged sixteen or older and so no longer eligible to attend are referred to as "Nevermores", and may often seem passively depressed. One can identify a "nevermore" due to a tear drawn on their cheek at the final disco in eyeliner. Those who are attending a CTYI programme for the first time are often referred to as 'newbies'. At the final disco in each session all of the "Nevermores" gather into a separate circle from the main group to sing American Pie.
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- ==CTYI cults==
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- There have also been various "cults" formed, most notably "the Cult of the Spoon", which involved wearing a small plastic spoon behind your ear and recurs every few years, but its origins seem to lie in the sessions of 1999. 2006 is notable for "the Butter Cult". To enter the Butter cult you were required to eat a small stick of butter. Or in the case of a student named Martin: 6.
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- ==CTYI humour==
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- An emergent tradition at CTYI is the practice of themed puns. Practitioners agree theme (e.g. science, "let's go insul-in-side" , cookery, "not mush-room for improvement", dentistry, "we're making puns at b-listerine speed!" or ancient Rome "That sounds like a colossal task") and make puns related to these areas as often as they can. These often involve more or less torturous preables, such as "Oh, there's my friend Cal... See him?" (A play on the word "Calcium" which comes under the theme of science). The two students responsible for beginning this tradition in the summer of 2005, Declan Moran and Eoghan Quinn, called themselves "The Punslingers" and claimed to have "The Fastest Puns in the West". They made their debeut co-hosting the talent show of that year and were known by their classmates and teaching assistant for constantly spouting puns of dubious quality (for example, on the theme of doors: "I'm sure we can get a handle on it."). They were also noted for their alter egos, Tom and Chad, two 1980s-style newsreaders. Other characters included two 19th-century scientists, Lord Chadley and Lord Handley Bar, who characteristically declared that scientific phenomena were caused by the movement of fluids, or listed the known periodic elements as including Azote, Gold, Copper Sulphate, and Fear. As a reward for their efforts, Moran and Quinn were voted "Most Handsome Duo" at the conclusion of the session by the female students of CTYI. Upon receipt of this citation, Moran and Quinn issued a statement which is often quoted upon the campus of CTYI:
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- ''"Though honoured to receive this award, Eoghan and I are in no way surprised. We have had our way with quite a few of CTYI's female residents, and for this award to go to Ronan Daly would be most ungrateful of them."''
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- Ronan Daly is believed to be a classmate of the duo.
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- Innuendo ("in-YOUR-end-oh!"), 'yer ma' jokes ("I'll 'joke' your Ma!"), and Chuck Norris jokes are prevalent. The traditional comebacks to the many playful insults are "Your Ma!", "That's not what she said!", "So's your face!" and "Bend over and I'll show you!".
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- Also, stating the phrase "old man" will instantly get a comeback of "gay porn".
- Margaret Thatcher slaggings run rampant among the international relations and history classes...pet name :Maggie
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- ==CTYI quotes==
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- Steve (Game theory instructor):
- "How about a really simple card game... Like chess!"
- "Don't push fat kids. It's hard."
- "...and the aim of the game is to maximise your pleasure and win the top prize, 4 shots of heroin and a puppy."
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- Liz (Game theory student):
- "Money is better than dignity"
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- Darragh (Game theory student):
- "Even God needs his coffee!"
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- Matthew (Game theory student): "If you want to get the projector going you have to twiddle it's knob."
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- Steve (Game Theory Instructor): "What is the objective of the traffic light ball?"
- Liz (Game Theory Student): "To get with as many people as possible?"
- Steve : "No, that's the objective of the CTYI Discos"
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- Steve (Game Theory Instructor): "The Luas will solve all our problems, including the need to wear pants...here's a puppy"

I can kind of see why it was shortened down. The quotes are pretty unnecessary on the Wikipedia entry for starters...

slasher_65

Piste wrote:

I preffered the entry when there were descriptions of each course on it, it gave a more detailed explaination of what CTYI is about.

This is what i am saying. Course discriptions are usualy a good thing. i dont see why they would be deleated.

Feral Mutant

slasher_65 wrote:

This is what i am saying. Course discriptions are usualy a good thing. i dont see why they would be deleated.

Probably because they're over. Next year there'll be new courses complete with new descriptions. A list of courses is one thing but I don't see the point in keeping a record of pages detailing the stuff for years gone by.

PurpleFistMixer

Perhaps the massive amount of uncyclopaedic information also on the page angered the editors, who just pruned it as much as possible. Which would involve taking out course descriptions.

Anyway, since courses change every year... easiest to link to the website.

Raphael

Then you should read the edit logs. They were deleted because they're directly copied and pasted from the CTYI website.

nosmo

Traditions, for the most part, are temporary. The traditions of CTYI in the years I attended have very little in common with those of the modern day, although there are some parallels. Reading some of these new traditions not only confuses me, but at times angers me. However, I know why: I. Don't. Get. It. Nor will other people, so don't disgrace CTYI by claiming "The Game" or cutlery larceny has anything to do with it.

That aside, None of that stuff belongs in an encyclopedia.

Raphael

"It is customary to shoulder anyone who screams (like the children in the song) in the second-last verse."

Just saw this in the crappy edit, wtf is that about?

JenLorigan

The original article just annoyed the hell out me, to be frank. No-one on the face of the earth cares about how LOLZ RANDOM you think you are just because you've attended CTYI. Except the people you're inflicting yourself on. The article is fine as it is, anyone who want to find out more about it can under their own steam, without being turned off it because it sounds like we're all a bunch of ten-year-olds.

slasher_65

should i point out that the amarica CTY seems to still have the "LOLZ RANDOM" side in their bit. with a warning of course?

Jack Lynch

Raphael wrote:

"It is customary to shoulder anyone who screams (like the children in the song) in the second-last verse."

Just saw this in the crappy edit, wtf is that about?

Yeah, screaming is great! I was never shouldered either. You need to scream at the last disco, especially if you're a Nevermore.

Some of those traditions are always relevant, like American Pie, Sportalians and Nevermores. Surely the whole article cant be just plain facts!

And that edited-out stuff is great. Im taking it and putting it on Bebo. (Yes, i know what you all think, but frankly, screw you all)

slasher_65

<runs away screaming>
other then that, i agree! we want a traditions piece.

PurpleFistMixer

Jack Lynch wrote:

Some of those traditions are always relevant, like American Pie, Sportalians and Nevermores. Surely the whole article cant be just plain facts!

Actually, in session 1 04, it was "Spitalians" not "Sportalians".

Also, isn't the point of an encyclopedia to be factual?

Matthewthebig

Isn't the point of a purplefistmixer to be purple?

Well?

Hmm?

/squints

Piste

And to mix? With her FISTS.

Ooh Matt it appears I have more stars than you under my username, therefore I clearly have the bigger penis.

PurpleFistMixer

lol Hmod.

Um... my purpleness appears to have suffered.. a bit of.. redshift.

Yeah.

Physics is the answer.

carlowboy

PurpleFistMixer wrote:

Actually, in session 1 04, it was "Spitalians" not "Sportalians".

Also, isn't the point of an encyclopedia to be factual?

Agreed. Spitalians is older. Sportalions for me wasn't coined until session1 2005.

Raphael

I always remember it being Sportalians tbh =/

Piste

Ditto, in my first year in 04 it was always Sportalians.

Also, completely off topic, does anyone else find the CTYI hoodies incredibly comfortable? Such for them.

carlowboy

Piste wrote:

Ditto, in my first year in 04 it was always Sportalians.

Also, completely off topic, does anyone else find the CTYI hoodies incredibly comfortable? Such for them.

Conflicting sessions once again.

PurpleFistMixer

They are lovely.

Maybe session1 04 was the last time Spitalians was used.
Or maybe it's just a session 1 thing.


Why they changed it I can't say, people just liked it better that way...

Raphael

++ for steph

And I was session 1 in 02&03, first time i ever heard spitalians was in 05 from people saying "They're not sportalians, they're spitalians."

Afaik

JenLorigan

So take me back to Constantinople...

Slasher: The fact that the American article portrays them as a bunch of annoying ten-year-olds does not mean we should want the same thing. But since I'm hardly going to be looking it up anytime soon, knock yourselves out.

Aoibheann

Steph: In session 2, '04, I heard "Spitalians" used more.. the rest of this lot are INSANE. ¬.¬