Rooney sees red again!!

andrewie

Rooney has been sent off in the Amsterdam Tournament. he jumped for the ball and the Porto defender just dropped. Fergie is going mental! Its a joke. No other player in the world would have been sent off for it!

sharkman

He needs to learn that ref's are watching him and will be hard on him . Till he does he will continue to be "Picked On" ..

Poor Wayne ! :rolleyes:

cournioni

Never a sending off. Absolute joke.

p.pete

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Never a sending off. Absolute joke.

Funny too

andrewie

Assuncao did something similar to Solskjaer 2 minutes before and got a ticking off.

sharkman

andrewie wrote:

Assuncao did something similar to Solskjaer 2 minutes before and got a ticking off.

Yep, and Rooney decide it was payback time !

PHB

hilarious decision, either way, United looking not bad not great. Carrick and Scholes seem to be doing well in midfield, especially the latter. We are missing the lightning pace of Ronaldo, and actually incredibly for United, somewhat lacking in pace.

county

sharkman wrote:

Yep, and Rooney decide it was payback time !

so you didnt see the incident then?

bucks73

sharkman wrote:

Yep, and Rooney decide it was payback time !

Yeah and he really did him. :rolleyes:

Ridiculous decision. If he misses a game or 2 or 3 because of some 3rd rate Dutch referee it will be a disgrace.

That defender obviously attended the mourinho academy of acting. Some things never change at that club.

county

down to 9 now,but that was clear cut

Chucky the tree

Who was send off now county?

Suspensions carry over to the premiership dont they?

county

scholes,not sure about the bans though,it could lie with the fa

therecklessone

Chucky the tree wrote:

Who was send off now county?

Suspensions carry over to the premiership dont they?

Yes.

Rikand

county wrote:

scholes,not sure about the bans though,it could lie with the fa

Did they not allow for the fact that he might not have been able to see where he was going ?

county

Rickylovesuall wrote:

Did they not allow for the fact that he might not have been able to see where he was going ?

very good point;)

Brian017

As regards to the suspensions, it's up to the FA to impose any bans if the Dutch FA pass the referees report to them.

Atlas_IRL

any score?

county

3-1 utd

Lemlin

Was it Ronaldo's fault again?

Mr. Presentable

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Never a sending off. Absolute joke.

"He received the red card after smashing his arm into Pepe Ferreira's face"

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13536268,00.html

I didn't see it. Did you? If he was, say, an Arsenal player, should he have been sent off? :rolleyes:

Atlas_IRL

good to see scholesy banging in the goals... did carrick play well?

cournioni

nipplenuts wrote:

"He received the red card after smashing his arm into Pepe Ferreira's face"

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13536268,00.html

I didn't see it. Did you? If he was, say, an Arsenal player, should he have been sent off? :rolleyes:

Good god! What game were they watching?! Fergie was angry with Rooney?! What the hell?!

Mossy Monk

saw it on Sky Sports News

contact with the face but i wouldnt say he smashed his arm into yer mans face. far from it in fact. Ferguson didnt sound furious with Rooney in the piece of interview they showed. more bemused with the refs decision than anything else

Nalz

Atlas_IRL wrote:

...did carrick play well?

he played okay 7/10 for me
gave away the ball a few times
played lovely balls for both Giggs and Park in first half
worked hard in 2nd half but saw very little of the ball

this how i rated starting team, disregarding sending offs. Richardson, Martin, Simpson, Fletcher and Foster came on also. all played resonably well.

VDS 7
Evra 7
Brown 7
O Shea 8
Bardsley 6

Scholes 8
Carrick 7
Giggs 6
Park 8

Rooney 8
Solskjaer 8

Atlas_IRL

not bad thanks trilla

Necronomicon

What a joke. Never a sending off in a million years.

Bit of a worry, two suspensions could possibly carry over into the new season.

Ronan|Raven

Why would they? It was a pre season friendly/tourney. Has nothing to do with the EPL?

Mr. Presentable

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Good god! What game were they watching?! Fergie was angry with Rooney?! What the hell?!

Just saw it on Sky news.

Hand in the face. Should perhaps have been a booking. If the ref was not in the position for a fully clear view I can see how it looked, but that's why there's assistants. Porto player though looked like he'd been kicked in the face by a horse!

BKtje

No way a sending off for Rooney. Booking perhaps. Dunno what game that person who wrote above sky article was watching. Hell, the Sky commentators didnt shut up about how wrong the decesion was for ages.

Scholes was just silly really and both were clumsy and deserved a yellow for each. That said he got a straight red for the second one it seems.

They might be banned, depends on the refs report to the Dutch FA and their report to the english FA who would then decide wether or not to ban them (according to commentators).

Jonny Arson

OMG it'z all fucking Ronaldo'z fault loike!!!111! :mad: :mad: :mad:

evilhomer

Aren't refs supposed to keep their cards in their pockets in tournaments like this?

Never a sending off for Rooney. Scholes had nothing to complain about, when will he learn that he just can't tackle worth a damn!

The Inter vs Ajax match is far worse spirited then the Man Utd vs Porto one was.

ctrl-alt-delete

evilhomer wrote:

The Inter vs Ajax match is far worse spirited then the Man Utd vs Porto one was.

Yeah did you see the big mill up, punches thrown and only yellow cards dished out :eek:

Rooney should not have been sent off.

homerjay2005

it was actually a good game. 4 cracking goals, delighted to see ole get the 3rd, was very happy with displays of evra, park, scholes and especially foster, spending 4 million on another keeper and sending him on loan is madness, the lad is quality with unbelieveable distribution. carrick was subdued enough although some1 said before that carrick often does a lot of vital work that goes unnoticed, only time will tell if that benifits us. overall, very pleased though the rooney sending off was a farce

Nalz

homerjay2005 wrote:

it was actually a good game. 4 cracking goals, delighted to see ole get the 3rd, was very happy with displays of evra, park, scholes

I agree, apart from first 1o minutes of game, Evra looked very very good! :eek:

homerjay2005 wrote:

and especially foster, spending 4 million on another keeper and sending him on loan is madness, the lad is quality with unbelieveable distribution.

yeap, but someone in Man Utd general rumours thread disagrees with me on that big time. It makes perfect sense to him :rolleyes:

BKtje

the lad is quality with unbelieveable distribution

Was also very impressed with what i saw. Came and cleanly took a lot of crosses and stopped some decent shots. He hadnt a hope for their goal. Shoulda been closed down but with 9 men i guess we'll let it pass

PHB

I think he is quality aswell, could make it as United no. 1, but he needs experience in the premiership, and won't get it as an understudy to VDS. If Watford are willing to give him 38 games in the premiership, let it be so, as it'll benefit us in the long run, even if we have to spend 4 millon in order to allow it, I think 4 million for a potential keeper for 10 years is worth it.

andrewie

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=407940&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=3&title=United+duo+reported+to+FA

The Dutch FA will report Manchester United duo Wayne Rooney and Paul Scholes to their English counterparts, according to reports.

Rooney and Scholes were both sent off during The Red Devils' 3-1 victory over Porto in the opening game of the Amsterdam Tournament on Friday.

Young striker Rooney was dismissed for catching Pepe in the face with his hand, while Scholes was sent off after two rash challenges from behind in the second half.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson was unhappy with Rooney's red card, but had few complaints with the Scholes decision.

Both players could be suspended for the start of the season, with the outcome determined by whether the Dutch FA (KNVB) report the matter to The Football Association.

Match referee Ruud Bossen has informed the KNVB of the red cards and the issue has now been passed on to The FA.

If The FA opt to stand by Bossen's decisions, then Rooney is likely to be suspended for United's games against Fulham, Charlton and Watford, while Scholes will also face a ban.

Ferguson has asked for common sense to prevail in the case of Rooney, but The FA will now have their say on whether the England international will miss the start of the new Premiership season.

I hope the FA see sense and let Rooney off

BKtje

definately tho why am i getting a bad feeling about this?

Ronan|Raven

TBH the FA should look at a replay of it and will see it wasnt intentional, besides have the portugese teams you ook sideways at them and they are playing dead.

LostinBlanch

Both Mellor and Gerrard were sent off in the final game of the same tournament in 2003, and they didn't get any premiership bans from that.

But of course they didn't play for United.

BKtje

we'll see what the FA do.

wheres me jumpa

Ref got it wrong imo.

matrim

I seem to be the only one that has no problem with this sending off.
He jumped for the ball while leading with his arm and connected with the player. Thats a sending off offence.
The other player overreacted, but unfortunately thats a part of the game now.

wheres me jumpa

matrim wrote:

I seem to be the only one that has no problem with this sending off.
He jumped for the ball while leading with his arm and connected with the player. Thats a sending off offence.
The other player overreacted, but unfortunately thats a part of the game now.

Yeah Im sure if this was a Champions League Final and your teams star man was sent off for that you would have the exact same opinion. It was a harsh red card. Happens in most games where a player is caught in the face by an arm.

cournioni

matrim wrote:

I seem to be the only one that has no problem with this sending off.
He jumped for the ball while leading with his arm and connected with the player. Thats a sending off offence.
The other player overreacted, but unfortunately thats a part of the game now.

Its soccer, not basketball...

PHB

He jumped for the ball while leading with his arm and connected with the player. Thats a sending off offence.

Where does it say that in the rule book?

Nalz

matrim wrote:

He jumped for the ball while leading with his arm and connected with the player. Thats a sending off offence.

Taxi for matrim...........

no way was that a sending off...not a gazillion trillion bafillion years

matrim

PHB wrote:

Where does it say that in the rule book?

I'll admit I was wrong, I thought the rules said that it was a sending off but when looking for a link I was wrong.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28749-2212591,00.html

Thats an article about what Sepp Blatter said about refs cracking down on fouls. For elbowing, it says

Elbowing — reckless use of arm: yellow card. With intent: red card.

I thought that it was a red, with intent or not. And Rooneys wasn't with intent so it should only have been a yellow.

Yeah Im sure if this was a Champions League Final and your teams star man was sent off for that you would have the exact same opinion. It was a harsh red card. Happens in most games where a player is caught in the face by an arm.

And if it was a player on the other team doing it to your star player, would you be saying the same thing, or calling for a sending off.

wheres me jumpa

matrim wrote:

And if it was a player on the other team doing it to your star player, would you be saying the same thing, or calling for a sending off.

No I wouldnt be calling for a sending off. I would be questioning why my centre back didnt attack the ball like any decent centre back should do.

andrewie

Watching the build up to Oxford V United on MUTV and they have said that Scholes and Rooney can play the first game of the Premiership because the the FA haven't recieved the report yet.