Paranormal TV Shows (megamerge)

faceman

New_Departure06 wrote:

I did but I don't think I will in future. No longer trust it after what Mysteria told us http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054953068 . It's "Dead Famous" and "Sensing Murder" (LivingTV) for me instead.

What makes you believe Mysteria more than anyone else?

New_Departure06

Zillah wrote:

You'll dismiss MH but trust those ones? Personally I would've thought that Mysteria's revelations would put a shadow of doubt across the whole TV ghost industry.

Well what I find more convincing about these is that:

A: DF presenter Gail Porter is always questioning towards Chris.

B: Lots more use of gadgets in DF. photographs, EVP samples etc. Personally I find that more credible because of the scientific aspect.

C: On some episodes they find next to nothing, which is more credible and makes faking seem unlikely.

During DF seances they have someone in who we can see frisking the people on the program and looking around the room to make sure noone's cheating. In one program it even described how seances were faked in the past and how Harry Houdini exposed fake mediums.

SM comes up with exact details even reg-no's.

E: No Kreed Kafer moments on those programs. No insiders expressing suspicions in the press or the net.

What makes you believe Mysteria more than anyone else?

Well she seems pretty definite in what she's saying. I have pmed her and her reply reinforces what she is saying. She says she has worked with MH people so that helps persuade me. I was a reasonable fan of MH but the trust is gone sorry!

Now don't get me wrong - I'm not a sceptic. I believe in spirits and ghosts but I don't believe everyone claiming to be mediums/psychics is telling the truth. I think some are genuine, but they are a minority.

faceman

New_Departure06 wrote:

Well she seems pretty definite in what she's saying. I have pmed her and her reply reinforces what she is saying. She says she has worked with MH people so that helps persuade me. I was a reasonable fan of MH but the trust is gone sorry!

Now don't get me wrong - I'm not a sceptic. I believe in spirits and ghosts but I don't believe everyone claiming to be mediums/psychics is telling the truth. I think some are genuine, but they are a minority.

Im not dissin her and it didnt take her to point out that most of MH was haunted. But think about this, imagine 90% of what you see on MH was fake. Fair enough. What about the other 10%? Either way i enjoyed derek's stint on MH.

When derek had his shows in the Helix my bro went and was singled out by derek. It was scary, told my bro things that no way he could have known. Names, events etc. He no fraud but he was defo put under alot of pressure to perform on the show.

RoundyMooney

mysteria wrote:

It's a type of entertainment as I said that has nothing to do with the paranormal.

Absolutely. The continuity announcers have a boiler plate disclaimer in place now, since the Mirror expose, in that they refer to the show as "psychic entertainment". The amount of little revenue earners tacked on, particularly with the MH Live series of shows, beggars belief, with interactive premium rate texts and calls flooding in, and dvds and clothing plugged at every ad break.

Antix productions are making a packet, and the gullibility of the masses is a sight to behold. (This has nothing to do with genuine psychic investigation, or public perception of same by the way).

Nice to see an input from someone relatively near the coalface.

New_Departure06

faceman wrote:

Im not dissin her and it didnt take her to point out that most of MH was haunted. But think about this, imagine 90% of what you see on MH was fake. Fair enough. What about the other 10%? Either way i enjoyed derek's stint on MH.

When derek had his shows in the Helix my bro went and was singled out by derek. It was scary, told my bro things that no way he could have known. Names, events etc. He no fraud but he was defo put under alot of pressure to perform on the show.

Is it possible that your brother was talking to someone about this info before the session started and might have been recorded? I'm not making accusations here but I have heard that some 'mediums' get their info that way.

Im not dissin her and it didnt take her to point out that most of MH was haunted. But think about this, imagine 90% of what you see on MH was fake. Fair enough. What about the other 10%? Either way i enjoyed derek's stint on MH.

I understand what you are saying. Specifically I keep wondering about that illuminated figure at Kinnity Castle outside the window. However my confidence in the show has been eroded too much and I doubt I have sufficient trust any more to watch it though I would previously have been a fan. I want to see real investigations that do not make me suspicious. I feel that "Dead Famous" is much closer to that than MH.

I'm also curious as to how Yvette seems to hear a lot of auditory phenomena. She must have gr8 ears because often I don't hear them!

faceman

New_Departure06 wrote:

Is it possible that your brother was talking to someone about this info before the session started and might have been recorded? I'm not making accusations here but I have heard that some 'mediums' get their info that way.

no, the stuff he talked about wasnt the kind of thing ud be just chattin about before the show. spooky tho

New_Departure06

faceman wrote:

no, the stuff he talked about wasnt the kind of thing ud be just chattin about before the show. spooky tho

Hmmm. OK. I wonder though was he saying things that could be true of anyone or specific details?

Ziycon

Have to say Dead Famous is much better, the Hudini one was very good!

New_Departure06

Ziycon wrote:

Have to say Dead Famous is much better, the Hudini one was very good!

I think the John Wayne one was the best yet. Very detailed apparitions came up close up in the photos (even hair). When is Series 4 coming btw?

my_house

i dont trust any of those shows - its all entertainment

mysterious

Great title....


Well Here it goes.

First of all I'm a skeptic and I'm not a great believer in all these "most haunted live" etc. As kids we all have ghost stories to tell, but as an adult you realise it was all a load of cock.

But when I lived in a town house way back when I was say 8/10 old enough to babysit myself when my parents went to the local pub which was accross the road, I had no problem with it either.

So here the unexplained part.
At night I used to sleep in My parents room, cus they had a tv in there and it was the warmest room in the house, as it was a stone built town house! outside the bedroom door into the next room (which was my room|) I heard intensed rubbing/dragging of feet outside over preocupied times glued to the T.V so I was not imagining things for starters. It was to obvious to ignore, that's the shocking part.When I was aware of it of first i didn't panick as I thought sure it was probs parents coming in, but it became oblivian to realise that my parents were not there at this occaison or any other time. It would happen at selective times during the night also. I tried to put it out of my head, even to this day.

I tried to make out what the hell is making the noise. I even dragged my feet behind the door where I guessed the noise was coming from, and it was exactly like it,(I panicked then) at that time to be honest I was really scared, even more so as it was just to abnormal or for a better word paranormal. I had to tell my parents when it got to the stage where it would happen everytime and no one was there. My parents said it's probly the rads... blab lball bla... ffs. I mean I'm a skeptic! but it was not a rad.

what do you think of this?

So what are the reasons for it? is it a ghost?

my_house

its impossible to say unless you could go back to that house today and capture some audio and/or video. were you on your own in the house and are you sure there wasnt actually someone there dragging their feet? did anyone else ever witness this? As it was a town house are you sure the noises werent coming from the street?

my_house

whats your opinion of the rash of tv ghost shows like most haunted, dead famous, girly ghosthunters, and ghost hunters (TAPS) etc?

Personally I take them all with a large pinch of salt since its become awfully trendy to be 'into' the paranormal and a lot of tv shows are raking it in. Ghost Hunters though (the one with the atlantic paranormal society in it) I have a bit of time for as I'm well aware of TAPS and the basic standards they set, plus they do quite a few interviews on the nightwatch show and come across as quite serious in their investigations.

anyway, whats your thoughts?

6th

I can only make one sweeping statement about then in general and its a good one.
No matter what the intention of the shows genuine or not they have highlighted an area which up until 5 years ago was not getting the attention it deserved.

I'll post more specifics ina few minutes when my boss stops giving me dirty looks.

my_house

a gree with you there too. for example, was watching girly ghosthunters (or some silly name like that) last night and the whole show was a load of bollox until the very very very last clip. one of the ghosthunters had gone to a cell on her own in a haunted gaol, set up the camera, started talking, heard a nosie and then said feck that,. Im away. the camera was still on pointing to the little bed thing she had been sitting on. then the bed moved on its own. that could have been faked obviously, but at the same time, it was weird

Cactus Col

Caught some of girly ghosthunters over the weekend as well, was glad to see they don't bother with having a "medium" around. Enjoyed their show, mainly because there seems to be a bit of innocence behind them than on any of the other shows I've seen. Although it seems they scream at the sound of their own hearts beating.

I do think that some of these shows do quite a bit of harm though, especially those that feature mediums like Derek Acorah. Maybe he's great, maybe he's a fake, I've no idea, but he always seems to me to be a stage medium, one step from asking if there's a Mary or a John in the audience.

mysterious

my_house wrote:

its impossible to say unless you could go back to that house today and capture some audio and/or video. were you on your own in the house and are you sure there wasnt actually someone there dragging their feet? did anyone else ever witness this? As it was a town house are you sure the noises werent coming from the street?

Well back in the day, I was still young and i might have had those walkie talkies that's about it. I never thought of the logical salution to prove it.

Yep it's a townhouse though it's a residental street, but part of the TC respectively, cus it's built around the same time, i.e at least 200 years ago. We were end house and the Bedroom was the end gable, so I could'nt put it down to neighbours etc or even someone coming into the house.

Your last question about the noise could be coming outside? I tried to fit this in, but there was no one out there, I mean there is passer's by etc, but still a relatively quiet road considering it would be nearly 12a.m in the morning ot thereabouts. The other reason I'm sure, it's not outside because it sounds like dragging feet or rubbing carpets in the next room, I tested it, and it was almost Identical but couldn't explain it! I think one of my mates, actually now that i think of it. I told my friends about the noise and to watch out for it. They didn't think I was mad., but I don't think they heard anything,and if they did I think they weren't aware of it or would have long forgotten.


Please, lol I was the only one in the house at the times it would happen, it's intense in the house. As it would happen, Of course I'd make sure I'm not mad to think something else. I even ran downstairs and no one would be there, mind you running back to the room and under the cover's as fast. Even if they were ppl in the house it still would be unexplainable, cus my room was next to it and it means that you have to pass two rooms to get into the hallway so it's relativley hard to put down that the noise was coming from elsewhere anyway.

I don't think there were any other paranormal incidents in the house other than being cold, and in my belief was intense times, or feeling someone in the room but that's about it, I always felt watched too. My Mam could of heardthe noise. But knowing her especially at the time would never in a millions years admit it, never mind sane things.

But thanks for the all the questions, any experts here?, sadly I don't think I'll be able to visit the house as it's now privatly owned. Mind you I'd love to go back and try work out the reasons behind it, maybe I could do a bit of research

Stoner

I think the shows are getting worse, initially Most Haunted was good, but Derek Acorah seemed to get "better" as the show went on. I like the shows, I have been to see Derek Acorah's show in the Helix, I also read his last book(took about 2 hours the writing/rambling was so big) and I think less of his "powers" as a result. I guess some show had to fuse Most Haunted and Scary Movie as I'd imagine there is a market for it.

New_Departure06

I prefer "Dead Famous" and "Sensing Murder" but no longer believe MH. To convince me I need to see a lot of science not just utterances of "did you hear that?". We have no way of knowing who or what is throwing stones that we are told were thrown. It is suggested something is thrown but we don't usually see it. I was prepared to believe it for a while but not anymore. I agree that one or 2 things that happen on the show might be paranormal e.g. spectral figure at Kinnity was pretty clear but in the distance outside window, but I am deeply suspicious about things I cannot see. Why doesn't MH have more still cameras in the rooms so we can verify for ourselves that there isn't funny-business going on? I'm not making a judgement on whether there is or isn't but I am no longer convinced by what is going on on that show. Mysteria has indicated to me in PMs that she was asked to go on the show but refused, suggesting they do look for genuine mediums. OK. But I want convincing evidence.

"Dead Famous" is far superior imho (when is the next series?), because they are not always finding stuff. I get suspicious about the freqency with which paranormal phenomena are found on MH. In contrast, DH sometimes find hardly anything. And on DF, when they do, it largely takes the form of recorded EVP's, orbs or apparitions in photos etc. One particularly convincing show was where Gail and Chris were looking for Alfred Hitchcock and talking and then suddenly we hear jingling very clearly and movement from an instrument in full-view of the camera. Also a figure of a man turns up on the photo. This is the kind of stuff that impresses me. MH has too little in the way of science.

GreenDoor

What do people think of Derek Acorah? He seems fairly accurate to me. I'm not that knowledgable about how accurate mediums should be but he seems very accurate.

6th

Oh God, Please do a forum search for "Acorah" before you go any further with this .... topics like this usually lead to a fight.

For what its worth IMO he has some talent as a medium but over the years its gone to sh*t as he spends too much time trying to impress and giving into the presures of live tv. Thing is i think he actually believes everything he's doing.

A few years spent out of the limelight working on his psychic being could get him back on top form.

Gillo

Nice to see that some people still have faith, I would have said the same, we all know what the PR and TV industaries are like they aren't happy until they get what they want. Unfortunately Acorah IMHO was forced into "prostituting" himself for the sake of rating.

While we are at it, I was thinking of starting a MH thread anyone wonna join me????

6th

gillo wrote:

.....I was thinking of starting a MH thread anyone wonna join me????

Another one? I'm sure digging up an old one would do the trick, there's plenty to choose from

SkepticOne

GreenDoor wrote:

What do people think of Derek Acorah? He seems fairly accurate to me. I'm not that knowledgable about how accurate mediums should be but he seems very accurate.

He was found out by another member of the team on "Most Haunted".

6th

SkepticOne wrote:

He was found out by another member of the team on "Most Haunted".

We can run over this again and again, as i've said a million times before yep he definately (imo) over did it alot but if anyone thinks he acted alone and wasnt prompted or pushed by the producers then they are very wrong and obviously on a Acorah WitchHunt. Dont get me wrong its not a case of "poopr derek, he was pressured into it" what he did was wrong and he could easily have walked at any stage.

According to Wiil Storrs book, while a guest on the show he got his hands on one of the producers scheduels for the night and it had key events marked in in advance.

He was used as a scape goat to a degree but "No one from the show is so blind as to be blameless" ... imo.

I really hate Most Haunted and Derek Acorah threads :mad:

Nevyn

Can't be helped 6th due to the mass publicity of the show and how it has impacted on popular culture with it being as watched as certain long running soap operas.

What I dislike most about it is the fact it mixes mediumship and the paranormal investitgations.
They should stick to one or the other.

Stoner

As discussed before, I went to his show in the Helix, this is the first I have heard that he was found out etc. He was asked the question directly about why he left MH by someone in the crowd, he mentioned one of the last shows I can't remember the name of the place anyway it was to do with a gang of witches, the other people in the investigation were calling / mocking the witches to get a reaction, Derek said he found this dangerous and it was not something he wanted to continue, so he started his own show "Ghost Towns".

I guess there are two sides to every story, I also read the guys book and I have to say it was a very poor read; it lacked substance and appeared to be the documented ramblings of an old woman.
Still I don’t think he is a bad guy and I think he may have some skills.

6th I think you'd be a great alternative for a TV3 rip off, we'd have to get you a better name though and a waist coat, if you ever need anyone to throw stones at you from a distance you know who to call!!!!

6th

Stoner wrote:

As discussed before, I went to his show in the Helix, this is the first I have heard that he was found out etc. He was asked the question directly about why he left MH by someone in the crowd, he mentioned one of the last shows I can't remember the name of the place anyway it was to do with a gang of witches, the other people in the investigation were calling / mocking the witches to get a reaction, Derek said he found this dangerous and it was not something he wanted to continue, so he started his own show "Ghost Towns".

Same night i was there, anyway he made it clear enough he wasnt happy with the way they did things, i think he booted off not cos he was "cheating" (sure it meant more money for the show) but because he may not have wanted to play ball anymore.

Stoner wrote:

6th I think you'd be a great alternative for a TV3 rip off, we'd have to get you a better name though and a waist coat, if you ever need anyone to throw stones at you from a distance you know who to call!!!!

Whats wrong with the name?!? Anyway i'm too pretty and not camp enough for the role. As for the stone throwing ... theres a long list of people who want to throw stuff at me

stevenmu

Thaedydal wrote:

What I dislike most about it is the fact it mixes mediumship and the paranormal investitgations.
They should stick to one or the other.

Personally I'd think that aspects of mediumship are vital in paranormal investigations, seeing as people are currently the only reliable means of actually detecting a presence. Well, they're not really reliable, but there isn't really anything else to use in their place.

miju

i used to think achora was a chancer / actor a friend of mine went to his show in the helix and was called up by him and i strongly beleive he is genuine.

the story and not one word of a lie:

he called out her name a load of people stood up (she didn't) he whittled it down to two and then made them both sit down and kept saying there's another person here by that name eventually she stood up.

he said he had her friend with him who recently died of cancer , was able to go into ridiculous detail about they're nicknames for each other , where they went out and even specifically told her not to feel bad because she went for a smoke and when she came back her friend had died.

needless to say when she came back from the show (we were babysitting for her) she was in shock and white as a ghost (if you pardon the pun)

you can't fake that detail in my opinion and from hearing that watch MH and GT regularly (but think GT is much better IMHO)

SkepticOne

6th wrote:

We can run over this again and again, as i've said a million times before yep he definately (imo) over did it alot but if anyone thinks he acted alone and wasnt prompted or pushed by the producers then they are very wrong and obviously on a Acorah WitchHunt. Dont get me wrong its not a case of "poopr derek, he was pressured into it" what he did was wrong and he could easily have walked at any stage.

Obviously he was not acting alone. He was depending on others to research the sites being 'investigated'. This was how he was found out.

But really, pointing out that Mr Acorah was exposed is hardly a witchhunt given that thread is titled "David Acorah" and the person is looking for information on the gentleman. He was claiming to be a medium on the programme yet was using information passed to him. This, imo, somewhat detracts from his credibility, tbh.

6th

SkepticOne wrote:

This, imo, somewhat detracts from his credibility, tbh.

I never said it didnt. I've just seen it so many times on here when people seem to totally wipe him out based on these findings. Of course we can presume that if he did it once then its possible he did it alot on the show. But i find it funny that it is his name thrown to the wolves and not the names of the researchers giving the info or of the producers who gave the instructions in the first place, funny coz it had been rumoured for a year before hand that he had planned to leave.

Also the findings on the show have what baring on his lives show which an example of is given above? Many people shout "plant" in cases like this but sure we should take miju at her word?

magnumlady

I'm off to see him in Castlebar in September. Looking forward to it. I've heard the good, the bad and the ugly, but I will be interested to see what happens on the night and I'm going with an open mind.

SkepticOne

6th wrote:

I never said it didnt. I've just seen it so many times on here when people seem to totally wipe him out based on these findings. Of course we can presume that if he did it once then its possible he did it alot on the show. But i find it funny that it is his name thrown to the wolves and not the names of the researchers giving the info or of the producers who gave the instructions in the first place, funny coz it had been rumoured for a year before hand that he had planned to leave.

Yes, but this thread is about Acorah. I could dig up the names of the researchers but it would not shed any more light on the man himself.

6th

I'm basing my opinion (and its just that my opinion) on watching alot of MH, having seen him live and having read both books about him and alot of posts about him.

Discussing him here will not shed any light on the man himself either. But if we are to discuss his discreditation (is that even a real word?!?) we have to look at the bigger picture.

tbh i'd question the amount of actually original thought you've put into the subject due to the fact you named him as David Acorah. Its fine to have an opinion on him based on any level of informaty but if you want to label him as a fraud of hoaxer then try back it up with a bit more rading.

For the record, I've fully acknowledged that he used qustionable means in the production of the show, and i know he chances his arm a bit.

SkepticOne

6th wrote:

tbh i'd question the amount of actually original thought you've put into the subject due to the fact you named him as David Acorah. Its fine to have an opinion on him based on any level of informaty but if you want to label him as a fraud of hoaxer then try back it up with a bit more rading.

For the record, I've fully acknowledged that he used qustionable means in the production of the show, and i know he chances his arm a bit.

Here's how I see it. Someone asked asked about Acorah. I provided information that he had been found out. He has been exposed as a cheat. I could go on about the producers and presenters and such but it would not be relevant to this thread.

I could talk about whether he cheated because he was under pressure or whether he did it for money.

The fact is he was caught cheating. This would be of interest to someone asking about Mr Acorah.

If you like I will start another thread about Most Haunted and similar programs and how they (including Acorah) went about fooling the public.

I have no problem with people believing that on other occasions he uses genuine paranormal powers like you appear to. People must draw their own conclusions.

SkepticOne

He was caught cheating more than once. If someone is caught theiving more than once that person is a thief.

Now there is a possibility that he doesn't always cheat and that if you pay to see his shows you may be seeing the genuine thing. You just need to know that he has been caught more than once cheating and judge for yourself.

This was my sole purpose in responding to this thread. That 6th or anyone else believes he is genuine is not a problem for me. They are entitled to their views. I'm not on a 'witchhunt' of Acorah, but simply pointing out something that someone should perhaps know about him before handing over money.

It has been sugggested that he only became a cheat because of pressure from his producers. Perhaps. But in that case would he not also be under pressure from a live audience all wanting to see 'results'? Maybe.

In any case, someone should know that he is known to cheat.

6th

Yep he has been known to cheat alright and i accept that. Of course its tainted my view of him and i am far from a big fan. My only point is that "I believe" he has a genuine gift but due to laziness and pressure he has not "kept it up". I'm sure its like an athlete or sports person who uses drugs, its not that they are not capable of doing what they do well but they choose the easy way which guarantees them results.

mysterious

IMO I think he just plays it well... He constantly plays on the reaction of others, I've watched his shows, and first thought maybe, now never.

Psycho. He just rambles on. Anybody could do what he does, plus the fact if he cheats, he would easily look up local history before he goes on MH. He could make the rest up as he goes along, I'm not trying to persuade other people opinions of him.

Afterall if anyone does what he does for a living and how long hes being doing this stuff - you get good at it;)

stevenmu

6th wrote:

so lets stay on topic before we end up banned.

Indeed !

aoife2k

i've been a huge fan of MH for a while now and at the start it amazed me at what Derek was able to do...it was brilliant 'cuz he only over got 'taken over' the very very odd time... in the new series it happened in almost ever show and more and more things kept happening...that's when I lost interest in him.

I was quite sad when i found out he was found out but that's probably because i believed every last word that came out of his mouth

6th

Ok a very interesting programme on tonight at 9pm on Channel 4:

Indigo Children sent to save our souls, or youngsters with active imaginations?
Top: Heather. Bottom: Oliver

Heather's mother is certain that her teenage daughter has psychic powers and can heal the sick. Heather is now part of a global movement of spiritual youngsters who are heralded by their mothers as future world-saviours and spiritual healers – the Indigo Children.

Oliver's mother is not sure if her eight-year old son's ability to see the dead is real or merely the product of an over-active imagination. Oliver has a medical diagnosis of Attention Deficit Disorder but psychics and healers have dubbed him as a misunderstood Indigo Child. Do Oliver's concentration problems stem from psychic disturbance? His mother opts for a middle ground and tries the alternative technique of "neruofeedback" to help Oliver's symptoms – whatever the cause of them.

Whether Heather and Oliver really have supernatural powers, or not, is a moot point. What you believe about their capabilities depends on your own worldview. However, Heather, Oliver and all the Indigo Children are just the latest in a long and august line of children with 'special powers'.

http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/W/weirdworlds/x_ray/index.html?hpos=LST

6th

Also for anyone with Discovery Civilisation from 11pm til midnight a programme on Haunted locations - tonights show is all about Ireland!

23:00 - Castle Ghosts, Ireland
Take a journey rich in mystery and ancient lore where wailing banshees are heard and ghosts do good and evil and visit castles haunted by a silver hoofed horse, a red lady, a wandering monk, and a headless ghost.

Zillah

That indigo children thing looks interesting. However, discovery civilisation shows castle-ghost stuff all the time. Most late nights really.

Gillo

Watching it at the moment, its interesting alright but I can't help felling sorry for the kids theyh really are getting pushed into something which I think they shouldn't. I think (and it's only an opinion) they should be made aware of their talent and allowed the option to develope it; I can't help seeing a glaringly obvious parellel betweeen the child beauty queens in the US.

Definetly an interesting documentary though.

6th

gillo wrote:

I can't help seeing a glaringly obvious parellel betweeen the child beauty queens in the US.

I know what you mean, its just starring you in the face. The girl only "knows" of her gifts cos her mother told her she had them as a young child. Whether these kids have gifts or not i personally dont like how they are going about it.

The mother of the boy is only looking to know what is "wrong" with her son and i can understand that from a parent, every parent likes to think their child is special and what kid wouldnt like the attention.

When the boy was put on the spot in front of the cameras (with his mother mentioning his poor performance in from of them) he began to say the spirits were making him sleeping and didnt want him to talk, looks to me like the kid wanted a get out.

All in all ... poor kids.

Zillah

I'm in work so can't watch it at the moment. Do Ch4 repeat stuff?

6th

Pretty sure they do but you really didnt miss much, was poorly made.

solas

I used work with a child who paralleled oliver, was really nice to see as it reminded me of him. Diagnosed adhd too, same demeanour, lived on a different planet and while he didn't speak of things like spirits he had a tendency to "synchronicity" ..best word I could find to describe and was extremely perceptive and highly sensitive to his surroundings. Was also glad to see the results of the brain tests as they demonsrated the connection to high empathic tendencies (esp) and adhd.

The other kid seemed more like the child of a flower child

two very different children.

Zillah

Brains tests show he had empathic tendencies? Empathic, like, putting yourself in their shoes, or empathic like Diana Troi?