Revenue after Shels again

KdjaCL

Legal

Posted: 12/08/2006

THE HIGH COURT 2006 No. 280 COS IN THE MATTER OF ACCOLADE LIMITED AND IN THE MATTER OF THE COMPANIES ACTS, 1963-2003. NOTICE is hereby given that a Petition for the winding-up of the above-named company by the High Court was on the 1st day of August, 2006 presented to the High Court by Gerard Harrahill, Collector General, of Sarsfield House, Francis Street, Limerick, a creditor of the above-named company, and that the said Petition is directed to be heard before the High Court on the 23rd day of August, 2006, and that any creditor or contributory of the said company who wishes to support or oppose the making of an Order on the said Petition may appear at the time of hearing by himself or his Counsel for that purpose, and a copy of the Petition will be furnished to any creditor or contributory of the said company who requires it by the undersigned on payment of the regulated charge for the same. FRANCES COOKE, REVENUE SOLICITOR, DUBLIN CASTLE, DUBLIN 2. Solicitor for the Petitioner. Note: Any person who intends to appear at the hearing of the said Petition must serve or send by post to the above-named Petitioner or his Solicitor notice in writing of his intention to do so. The notice must state the name and address of the person or, if a firm, the name and address of the firm, and must he signed by the persor or firm, or his or their Solicitor, (If any), and must be served, or, if posted, must be sent by post in sufficient time to reach the above-named Solicitor or the Petitioner not later than 5 o'clock in the afternoon of the 22nd day of August, 2006

Makes you think if Team Boards.ie ever got off the ground could we get a UEFA/EL licence.


Cant be that hard.

kdjac

Anto McC

http://shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=449

KdjaCL

Anto McC wrote:

http://shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=449

Cheque that was posted from Inchicore not make it? Was it not registered? Or was it sent in the 1st place?

Seems very odd to get 2 with no mention of the 1st in the 2nd one.

Should be docked points but that only happens to Rovers.


kdjac

Zebra3

KdjaC wrote:

Cheque that was posted from Inchicore not make it? Was it not registered? Or was it sent in the 1st place?

Seems very odd to get 2 with no mention of the 1st in the 2nd one.

Should be docked points but that only happens to Rovers.


kdjac

Why should we be docked points? Where does it say in the rulebook that we should be docked points?

And it doesn't only happen to Rovers, as Pat's and (I believe) Athlone and Monaghan have been deducted points in the last couple of years.

Rovers were lucky to be deducted points. Any other league they would have been thrown out.

KdjaCL

Zebra3 wrote:

Why should we be docked points? Where does it say in the rulebook that we should be docked points?

As UEFA have proved if you apply for the licence and stuff like this happens then you should be punished accordingly....guess not in the EL or i mean guess not Shels (this is a really long link cool innit)



kdjac

Zebra3

KdjaC wrote:

As UEFA have proved if you apply for the licence and stuff like this happens then you should be punished accordingly....guess not in the EL or i mean guess not Shels (this is a really long link cool innit)

What's your point?

Shels have a licence and pay their bills.

A team in Hungary failed to get a licence so weren't allowed take part in the this season's league.

What's the connection?

And you complain about Rovers being deducted points when they should been thrown out of the league for having no licence. :rolleyes:

KdjaCL

To get a UEFA licence you have to have a sustainable financial budget for the season and no insurmountable debts.

You have so far accrued 2 winding up notices meaning you owe money and 1 player strike meaning you owe players money. Rovers cheated to get their licence and should have been relegated which they were but only after a points docking, Shels obviously must have left something out to get the licence, the licence was awarded in feb yet in march they get a winding up order (blame the flood eh?)
Winding up notices dont just appear there are many many letters before it and Shels would have got one pre licence deadline.

Something is not right if a club can get 2 winding up notices a player strike and go unpunished.

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/Keytopics/kind=128/newsId=140941.html

Its all there left hand side of the page under Legal manuals.

kdjac

Zebra3

The debts have been/will be paid.

Ironic that you think Shels should be deducted points for this, but you get the hump when Pat's are deducted points for fielding players illegally. :rolleyes:

KdjaCL

Zebra3 wrote:

The debts have been/will be paid.

Ironic that you think Shels should be deducted points for this, but you get the hump when Pat's are deducted points for fielding players illegally. :rolleyes:

Im sure they will still leaves the fact they had this debt and others when they were awarded their licence, as i once recall someone saying "rules are rules"..........


Except in Shels case seems they can get away with anything.

kdjac

Töpher

Pats have no debts, no? Once they are paid within the time limit set by those owed money, where's the problem?

It'd be different if we went into liquidation and paid of debts at about €0.03 per €1. As it stands, creditors are owed money, and once they get paid in full, and within the time limits set - problem solved.

I take it you take a similar stance with Cork?

Zebra3

They are hardly insurmountable debts if they have been/will be paid. :rolleyes:

KdjaCL

Einst&#252 wrote: »

Pats have no debts,

I take it you take a similar stance with Cork?

300k or 800k or nothing depends on who is answering and the debt is to the club for buying shares of former regimes, somehow we owe ourselves money

The bottom line of it all to compete and operate you need a licence, to get a licence you must submit finanical data for the year showing that you can operate, its plainly obvious Shels and Cork did not (Cork seemingly were paying just not enough but were paying). So did Shels send in the correct details? We all know Rovers didnt and what happened them.

Regardless of club even if we are next (but come play pro Evo and ensure its not ) the clubs should be punished or the licence system done away with and its fairly obvious it doesnt work with player strikes, clubs folding, clubs transfer listing all their players, 3 winding up notices and its only august......all the things its there to prevent.



kdjac

johnos

Story breaking in media today, with statement by Shelbourne.
http://bohsnews.crispynews.com/article/show/14849

super_furry

Zebra3 wrote:

Rovers were lucky to be deducted points. Any other league they would have been thrown out.

Rubbish. Not only were Rovers docked enough points to ensure they were relegated, they were told that if they appealed they would be thrown out of the league - something that a certain Ollie Byrne campaigned for at the time. Funny how he's gone quite now isn't it?

The Rooster

To get to the stage of a high court petition, the debt must be very late.

Any company that is regularly late with paying Revenue bills must be in a lot of trouble - as it usually means the automatic imposition of interest charged at about 11% - not a thing most companies would choose to do, unless they are in a very bad situation already.

Zebra3

super_furry wrote:

Rubbish. Not only were Rovers docked enough points to ensure they were relegated, they were told that if they appealed they would be thrown out of the league - something that a certain Ollie Byrne campaigned for at the time. Funny how he's gone quite now isn't it?

You're the one talking rubbish.

Rovers were not docked enough points to make sure they were relegated.

Rovers lost a two-legged play-off, that's why they were relegated.

Rovers had their licence taken off them (which they had obtained under false pretences) yet were allowed continue in the league. Preferencial treatment for Rovers from the FAI.

Ollie Byrne hasn't gone quiet. A statement has been issued saying the debt will be paid. Unlike Rovers who walk away from their debts by paying, what was it, 4% of their debts? Rovers got away very lightly.