[article]'fascist fanaticism and radicalism is now rife amoung our young'

IT Loser

Kevster wrote:

IT Loser, your name is quite apt for indeed you are a loser and your views are based on ignorance. I abhor people like you.

You had to edit a one liner?

IT Loser

Wibbs wrote:

OT but I have to say; No, I'm sorry but you are the one with the power to make your life miserable or no, not IT loser or anyone like him. When you wish misfortune on another you've already lost.

I don't want to make anybodies life miserable, especially some dude called Kevster.

Indeed, the entire argument, the entire scene, can get even abhorred SOB's like me down at times. I concede that it is easier to just float thru life without a care or concern. I used be a schoolboy without a concern.

But the sh!t has hit the fan, for whatever reason.

I advocate strong opposition to violent Islam, thru the Military Order of Malta, through our Standing Armies, thru politics, education...whatever it takes to, once again, turn them back.

If this means that Johnny Islam is picked up at the airport, turned around, and sent "home" on the next plane, then so be it.

If this means that the Clonskeagh Mosque is stormed by barefoot troops looking for a dissident Imam that shouldn't be here- so be it.

If this means that the certai beer brewing converts are assassinated in broad daylight, then so be it. DEUS VULT!

If this means that certain Journalists and certain Ex-Presidents are exposed {by any means} as being soft on terror- then so be it. I don't advocate acts like this, per se, but there is every chance that these people have information which we could, ahem, do with



If it means iron-clad oppostion to RTE, then so be it. RTE are obviously not concerned with hosting an open objective debate on the matter, and, given that they take millions in tax-payers money, this is a danger that must be confronted.

If it means that Christian heads have to roll because they are weak, prone to conversion, sympathetic, etc...then so be it.

All of this seems shockingly violent, but the most effective strokes against Islamic terror are really bloodless {to a degree} and straight forward.

We must, as an issue of National Security and Interest DISMANTLE our current socio-economic system in 3 distinct areas:

1. Energy.

The entire energy apparatus of Ireland is all wrong. Imports of Saudi oil must be curtailed in favour of domestic Bio-Diesel and Ethanol production. The Saudi regime is bent. It doesn;t have our interests in favour. It promotes terror indirectly and directly. The Irish Govt must seek to develop favourable energy schemes with friendly nations, Canada, Norway and Sweden in particular. The motor industry must be forced to adapt, just as the vintners were with the smoking ban. Indivuiduals should be encouraged to make their own fuels, with incentives provided to the individual for doing so, eg lower taxes on domestically produced alcohol or diesel


2. Housing

Housing is just too expensive. Period. It has curtailed the development and regeneration of our most precious resource: The family. The current efforts of the Irish people to raise and house their families has been nothing short of heroic, with one of the healthiest birth rates in Europe juxtaposed against a background of rip-off Ireland and exorbitant house prices. Can this continue in the current climate of rip-off Ireland and a general absence of social housing? Probably not for long.

3. Immigration.
So far, not too bad. 75% of the current influx can be safely passed off as having the interests of the State at heart. {50% Eastern Europe, 25% Ex-Pats} Islamic immigration must be minimised, if not entirely stopped.. Fewer Muslims may mean a tighter knit community but it also limits the chance of terror, alienation from within that community {one shepherd can mind only so many sheep} and simultaneously deprives terrorist elements of the sheer manpower they may need.


All of the 3 above factors, when arranged as I think they should be, are, in the main, opposed to the propagation of terror and fascism. Most Muslims would agree, if they could see past the fact that I will not Kow-Tow to them. Ever.

Diogenes

I advocate strong opposition to violent Islam, thru the Military Order of Malta, through our Standing Armies, thru politics, education...whatever it takes to, once again, turn them back.

I'm sorry the order of Malta?

If this means that Johnny Islam is picked up at the airport, turned around, and sent "home" on the next plane, then so be it.

So you randomly think people should be sent home, no matter how dangerous home is, because of their religion, when you have no evidence they want to commit terror?

If this means that the Clonskeagh Mosque is stormed by barefoot troops looking for a dissident Imam that shouldn't be here- so be it.

1. Why barefoot...

2. Do you have any evidence that there is a dissident Imam preaching there? Or do you think we should randomly raid the mosque on the off chance there will be dissident Imam there? Because if you do that often enough, every Imam will be a dissident Imam.

If this means that the certai beer brewing converts are assassinated in broad daylight, then so be it. DEUS VULT!

Seriously what on earth are you fúcking on about? Which beer brewing converts? And why should they be assassinated?

If this means that certain Journalists and certain Ex-Presidents are exposed {by any means} as being soft on terror- then so be it. I don't advocate acts like this, per se, but there is every chance that these people have information which we could, ahem, do with

WHO? Which journalists and ex presidents and what information they have?

If it means iron-clad oppostion to RTE, then so be it. RTE are obviously not concerned with hosting an open objective debate on the matter, and, given that they take millions in tax-payers money, this is a danger that must be confronted.

I'm sorry could you give examples of RTEs failure to have an "open honest ebate?"

If it means that Christian heads have to roll because they are weak, prone to conversion, sympathetic, etc...then so be it.

Are you adovacting murdering Irish people who convert to Islam?

You have to be a troll.

All of this seems shockingly violent, but the most effective strokes against Islamic terror are really bloodless {to a degree} and straight forward.

This ought to be good.

We must, as an issue of National Security and Interest DISMANTLE our current socio-economic system in 3 distinct areas:

1. Energy.

The entire energy apparatus of Ireland is all wrong. Imports of Saudi oil must be curtailed in favour of domestic Bio-Diesel and Ethanol production. The Saudi regime is bent. It doesn;t have our interests in favour. It promotes terror indirectly and directly. The Irish Govt must seek to develop favourable energy schemes with friendly nations, Canada, Norway and Sweden in particular.

What energy do Canada Norway and Sweden have that we could trade with? What could we offer? Norway and Sweden are building nuclear plants.

The motor industry must be forced to adapt, just as the vintners were with the smoking ban.

Yeah because revolutionary change to our entire transport infrastructure is on a par with a smoking ban

Indivuiduals should be encouraged to make their own fuels, with incentives provided to the individual for doing so, eg lower taxes on domestically produced alcohol or diesel

Do you know what you need to produce diesel? Crude oil.

2. Housing

Housing is just too expensive. Period. It has curtailed the development and regeneration of our most precious resource: The family. The current efforts of the Irish people to raise and house their families has been nothing short of heroic, with one of the healthiest birth rates in Europe juxtaposed against a background of rip-off Ireland and exorbitant house prices. Can this continue in the current climate of rip-off Ireland and a general absence of social housing? Probably not for long.

True but couched in language I dislike.

3. Immigration.
So far, not too bad. 75% of the current influx can be safely passed off as having the interests of the State at heart. {50% Eastern Europe, 25% Ex-Pats} Islamic immigration must be minimised, if not entirely stopped.. Fewer Muslims may mean a tighter knit community but it also limits the chance of terror, alienation from within that community {one shepherd can mind only so many sheep} and simultaneously deprives terrorist elements of the sheer manpower they may need.

Hard to know where to start creating Muslims ghettos will created tension, and sheer manpower? It took five boys from leeds to destroy the underground, you're having a laugh. What else do suggest, travel permits for Muslims going home, restrict their internet access?

Why not go the whole hog and make em wear Muslim crescent moons on their clothes

above factors, when arranged as I think they should be, are, in the main, opposed to the propagation of terror and fascism.

I would describe a large portion of the above is a blueprint for fascism.

Most Muslims would agree, if they could see past the fact that I will not Kow-Tow to them. Ever.

Stormfront is that way mate.

Wibbs

Diogenes wrote:

I'm sorry the order of Malta?

Yep I was wondering that too. Cue chainmail and tunics emblazoned with crosses....

So you randomly think people should be sent home, no matter how dangerous home is, because of their religion, when you have no evidence they want to commit terror?

It seems he does.

1. Why barefoot...

Probably wearing sackcloth and ashes to boot.

Seriously what on earth are you fúcking on about? Which beer brewing converts? And why should they be assassinated?

I have never typed this webism before. Ever. But I shot me tea out my nose and rotflmao after reading that one I can tell you. Beer brewers anonymous for Muslims. Muhhhahahhahhaha.

I'm sorry could you give examples of RTEs failure to have an "open honest ebate?"

Different topic...:D

Are you adovacting murdering Irish people who convert to Islam?

We're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy(if I may call you such for the purposes of....)

You have to be a troll.

Troll spelled I N S A N E. Up the dosage all round methinks.

What energy do Canada Norway and Sweden have that we could trade with? What could we offer? Norway and Sweden are building nuclear plants.

He's uninformed too.

Yeah because revolutionary change to our entire transport infrastructure is on a par with a smoking ban

It was for me I can tell ya.

Do you know what you need to produce diesel? Crude oil.

This is my only disagreement with you Diogenes. You can produce bio diesel from vegetable oil.

True but couched in language I dislike.

And soooo far off topic you would require the services of the Hubble to track it.

I would describe a large portion of the above is a blueprint for fascism.

You know, this level of thinking can snap around in weird ways. Don't be too surprised if he ends up converting himself after some road to damascus(or mecca) vision. The minarets will be twitching then.

Stormfront is that way mate.

Even they have their standards.

Diogenes

Wibbs wrote:

This is my only disagreement with you Diogenes. You can produce bio diesel from vegetable oil.

True but we're hardly classic soya bean growing land. What does he expect us to set up soya bean farms in our new affordable housing schemes, and then make vegetable oil from that, to run our cars? We use 64,094,000 barrels of oil a year. There are 41 gallons in a Barrel. It takes 41 pounds of soya to make a gallon of bio diesal. Meaning we'll need 107,742,014,000 pounds of soya beans. You can grow, I think, 10,000 pounds of soya on an acre of land in optimum growing conditions, (warm southwest United States) We have 1, oh sod it, I could go on, but this is just stupid. He has no idea what he's suggesting.

lostexpectation

New body to represent Muslim leaders in Ireland

A new body has been set up to represent Muslim leaders in Ireland and promote their positive integration into Irish society.

The Irish Council of Imams will have the authority to speak on topical issues on behalf of Ireland's 40,000-strong Muslim community.


The organisation represents all 14 imams in Ireland, from both the Sunni and Shia traditions.

See the article in times by the alpha ireland guy who fears muslim will take over europe within a hundreds years....

he said clonsilla was the headquarters of fatwa council of europe, what does tha really mean?

Bottle_of_Smoke

IT Loser wrote:

I don't want to make anybodies life miserable, especially some dude called Kevster.

Indeed, the entire argument, the entire scene, can get even abhorred SOB's like me down at times. I concede that it is easier to just float thru life without a care or concern. I used be a schoolboy without a concern.

But the sh!t has hit the fan, for whatever reason.

I advocate strong opposition to violent Islam, thru the Military Order of Malta, through our Standing Armies, thru politics, education...whatever it takes to, once again, turn them back.

If this means that Johnny Islam is picked up at the airport, turned around, and sent "home" on the next plane, then so be it.

If this means that the Clonskeagh Mosque is stormed by barefoot troops looking for a dissident Imam that shouldn't be here- so be it.

If this means that the certai beer brewing converts are assassinated in broad daylight, then so be it. DEUS VULT!

If this means that certain Journalists and certain Ex-Presidents are exposed {by any means} as being soft on terror- then so be it. I don't advocate acts like this, per se, but there is every chance that these people have information which we could, ahem, do with



If it means iron-clad oppostion to RTE, then so be it. RTE are obviously not concerned with hosting an open objective debate on the matter, and, given that they take millions in tax-payers money, this is a danger that must be confronted.

If it means that Christian heads have to roll because they are weak, prone to conversion, sympathetic, etc...then so be it.

All of this seems shockingly violent, but the most effective strokes against Islamic terror are really bloodless {to a degree} and straight forward.

We must, as an issue of National Security and Interest DISMANTLE our current socio-economic system in 3 distinct areas:

1. Energy.

The entire energy apparatus of Ireland is all wrong. Imports of Saudi oil must be curtailed in favour of domestic Bio-Diesel and Ethanol production. The Saudi regime is bent. It doesn;t have our interests in favour. It promotes terror indirectly and directly. The Irish Govt must seek to develop favourable energy schemes with friendly nations, Canada, Norway and Sweden in particular. The motor industry must be forced to adapt, just as the vintners were with the smoking ban. Indivuiduals should be encouraged to make their own fuels, with incentives provided to the individual for doing so, eg lower taxes on domestically produced alcohol or diesel


2. Housing

Housing is just too expensive. Period. It has curtailed the development and regeneration of our most precious resource: The family. The current efforts of the Irish people to raise and house their families has been nothing short of heroic, with one of the healthiest birth rates in Europe juxtaposed against a background of rip-off Ireland and exorbitant house prices. Can this continue in the current climate of rip-off Ireland and a general absence of social housing? Probably not for long.

3. Immigration.
So far, not too bad. 75% of the current influx can be safely passed off as having the interests of the State at heart. {50% Eastern Europe, 25% Ex-Pats} Islamic immigration must be minimised, if not entirely stopped.. Fewer Muslims may mean a tighter knit community but it also limits the chance of terror, alienation from within that community {one shepherd can mind only so many sheep} and simultaneously deprives terrorist elements of the sheer manpower they may need.


All of the 3 above factors, when arranged as I think they should be, are, in the main, opposed to the propagation of terror and fascism. Most Muslims would agree, if they could see past the fact that I will not Kow-Tow to them. Ever.

Troll or not - that was entertainment.

InFront

Was anybody reading the sunday world to-day? No, i dont usually buy it, (and if i did i wouldnt admit it!) I have it because of the interview with the Imam of the mosque at Clonskeagh Sheikh Hussein Halawa concerning the comments of Pope Benedict.

One page is an absolute load of tripe written by some (anonymous) journalist whose photograph is not even printed, and who vents his spleen on the entire Muslim community or 'pork dodgers' as it is referred to without balance nor reasonable measure.
I'm not sure how to get a link up but it was really stupid, distasteful stuff that im sure far too many gullible people will actually take in and accept as a sort of truth.

To see him lamenting and condemning the hopelessness of the Muslim community as a whole, and to then flick the page to see the Imam Sheikh Hussein Halawa advising that Muslims ought to accept the Pope's apology (as I for one do anyway), and move on, is almost funny. Im not sure if the editorial ayout was deliberate, but I for one thought it just made that city slicker guy look completely uneducated and unnecessarily sensationalist. Still quite an irritating read, though!

ahmadi-muslim

Jackie laughlin wrote: »

Does anyone know if there are Ahmadi Muslims in Ireland? I understand that they reject Jihad completely and are persecuted by other Muslims.

Yes there are few Ahmadi Muslims in Ireland.
Here is the offical website of ahmadiyya muslim.
www.alislam.org

thanks
bye

Bottle_of_Smoke

Something about seeing your own post from 2 years ago makes you feel somewhat uneasy. A Jihad upon you Ahmadi-Muslim!