Villa Signings and General Rumours Thread

Villain

Now come on Newcastle

Bounty Hunter

get in Barry! 2-1

cmon Newcastle

shoutman

Everton are 2-1 up

Bounty Hunter

Brum are down... cant catch Reading or Fulham (if they were to get a win)

edit: Dang Everton

Neil3030

Brum take the lead against Blackburn.. Intertoto looking safe.

Helix

2-1 sha
2-1 everton

Villain

ah well

Helix

intertoto looks safe

ill take that

shoutman

Helsingborg here we come, rap up well lads. I'll see you over there

:D:D:D

shoutman

Everton have a peno.
Yak scores

Sixth it is barring disaster.

Helix

pen for everton, looks like thats it

Helix

3-1 everton

game over

Villain

I don't know if Intertoto is a good idea, especially if we don't sign at least 6 or 8 players

Bounty Hunter

Intertoto here we come

Helix

Villain wrote: »

I don't know if Intertoto is a good idea, especially if we don't sign at least 6 or 8 players

its only 2 extra games

Helix

2-2

ashton for west ham

wont matter unless blackburn score 3 or pompey score 2

we're in the twobob

shoutman

Villain wrote: »

I don't know if Intertoto is a good idea, especially if we don't sign at least 6 or 8 players

So you'd prefere us to decline intertoto and just have another go at 5th next year?

Even if it compramises our league performance next year its still worth the shot at playing in europe, it will enable us to attract better quality players.

Pants West ham have equalised. I doubt it will matter anyway.

Bounty Hunter

Ashton scores 2-2 but Intertoto still for Villa

Villain

To get a place in Europe how many games do you have to play in the Intertoto how early do you have to start pre-season training?

Helix

Villain wrote: »

To get a place in Europe how many games do you have to play in the Intertoto how early do you have to start pre-season training?

i told you, you have to play 2 games, one home one way

win that tie and youre in the uefa

the intertoto match is a week before the league season starts afaik

shoutman

It's only two in the intertoto if I'm not mistaken, and as mon said the games are around the same time as preseason friendlys would be anyway and it's doubtfull it will be against teams that we would have to play premiership quality football to beat.

Time Magazine

Villain wrote: »

To get a place in Europe how many games do you have to play in the Intertoto how early do you have to start pre-season training?

Two games. The draw is here.

We'd be playing the winners of Match K - NIR/FIN v DEN. First leg: 19/20 July. Second leg: 26/27 July.

Who are the North's reps in Intertoto? Who are Finland's and Denmark's?

It's a very early pre-season but that mightn't hurt either. We were playing in America in July last year.

Villain

Ah well thats not so bad then I thought it was 3 or 4 games the way they were talking not going on a pre-season tour

shoutman

Whatever happens I'd love to get an away trip in.

Time Magazine

Season over.

Played 38
Won 16
Drew 12
Lost 10
Scored 71
Conceded 51
Points 60 - 6th place

Well done Martin O'Neill. Well done Aston Villa.

Villain

Yep good season lets build now

shoutman

6th place in the league, Birmingham City relegated.

I think everyone would of taken that at the start of the year.

Lets hope we hang onto Gaz Baz and bring in some quality signings.

Helix

right

so we're playing the winner of cliftonville/mypa v 3rd place in the danish league in the twobob

could be copenhagen who finish third, that wont be a coast by any stretch

shoutman

There is no such thing as a guaranteed victory but I couldn't see any danish side being capable of a mid table finish in the premiership.

It's better for us that its two legs as opposed to just a one game final.

JPA

We have to play qualification games in the second round to get into the UEFA proper after we win out Intertoto games.
So we do need a good few players coming in.

But Well done. Big improvement this year.

Helix

JPA wrote: »

We have to play qualification games in the second round to get into the UEFA proper after we win out Intertoto games.
.

no we dont

if you win the intertoto you go into the first round of the uefa, which is another 2 legged tie, before the second round which is the group stage

dont confuse the first round with the qualifiers, theyre different things

estebancambias

Would you lads like Doyle?

JPA

Helix wrote: »

no we dont

if you win the intertoto you go into the first round of the uefa, which is another 2 legged tie, before the second round which is the group stage

dont confuse the first round with the qualifiers, theyre different things

Well I got it from Wikipedia,

The UEFA Cup starts with two knockout qualifying rounds held in July and August. Participants from associations ranked 18 and lower enter the first qualifying round, and participants from associations ranked 9-18 join them in the second qualifying round. In addition, three places in the first qualifying round are reserved for the Fair Play winners, and eleven places in the second qualifying round are reserved for the UEFA Intertoto Cup winners.

OPENROAD

Can't see why Villa would go for Doyle certainly not as first choice.

Villain

Helix wrote: »

no we dont

if you win the intertoto you go into the first round of the uefa, which is another 2 legged tie, before the second round which is the group stage

dont confuse the first round with the qualifiers, theyre different things

Nope if we win we go into the UEFA Cup second qualifying round then there is the first round and then the group stage

Helix

estebancambias wrote: »

Would you lads like Doyle?

nope

id have hunt tho

Bounty Hunter

estebancambias wrote: »

Would you lads like Doyle?

you offering?

id be happy to see Doyle at VP although id say others have the sights set higher. He would not be a guranteed starter anyway but on the cheap would be a fine replacemenrt/improvement on Luke Moore.

shoutman

I'd like to think our standards are higher then doyle, and we dont need a replacement for moore.

estebancambias

But perhaps with Villa Doyle would actually develop, like Ashley Young has.

JPA

I really dislike Hunt. All action with no skill or technique.

Helix

JPA wrote: »

I really dislike Hunt. All action with no skill or technique.

with 7 players on the bench next season hes an ideal impact player if needed

Time Magazine

I'd like Doyle as competition for Gabby if he could be got for £5m or less. Carew, Gabby, Doyle and Harewood sounds pretty good.

Though we're scoring for fun. Need to focus on other areas of the pitch. Here's a bit of a wishlist for the summer:

Jens Lehmann/Jussi Jääskeläinen
Brad Guzan
Miguel
A young RB, maybe Richard Stearman
A CB to challenge with Zat
A quality MR like Shaun Wright-Phillips
An attacking/creative MC
A challenge to Gabby/Kevin Doyle

That'd give us a squad of...

GK
Jussi Jääskeläinen
Brad Guzan
Stuart Taylor

Defenders
Bouma
O'Halloran
Knight
Laursen
Davies
New centre-half
Miguel
Stearman

Midfielders
Young
Maloney
Barry
Reo-Coker
Petrov
New CM
Salifou
Wright-Phillips
Routledge
Gardner

Forwards
Gabby
Carew
Doyle
Harewood
Delboy

I think that's a team that could challenge for the UEFA Cup, have a run in the FA/League Cup and secure 5th.

shoutman

I think to secure fifth we would need a bit more quality to be honest. Would Doyle make it into the Everton team?

Helix

i dont care about 5th next season, i want 66 points

if we finish 9th with that by some freak i dont care

i wanted 60 this term, and we got it, so i want 66 to keep the improvement going

Time Magazine

Not every player in our side would have to get into Everton's side for us to get 5th. And aside from that, Doyle would be a challenger for Gabby. Could see him taking his place, but he wouldn't be a dead-set starter. Gabby was really showing the strain during certain matches this season, we need a replacement. If we spend say £5m on a player like Doyle then that's a lot more cash to spend on a right-back and right winger who are more needed imho.

Helix wrote: »

i dont care about 5th next season, i want 66 points

if we finish 9th with that by some freak i dont care

i wanted 60 this term, and we got it, so i want 66 to keep the improvement going

So you'd rather 66 in 9th than 65 and 5th?

Helix

Antithetic wrote: »

So you'd rather 66 in 9th than 65 and 5th?

yup

we need to start 100% focussing on our own targets and reaching them and not worrying about anyone else

points targets are always in your own hands, league positions are not

Savman

Doyle is a quality player, would not be surprised at all to see MON after him he's the quintessential MON kind of player and esp now with Reading gone I'd say Doyle will be off.

Great season, all things considered. Intertoto will be an experience anyway

Neil3030

I'd have reservations about Doyle. Haven't seen enough Reading games to see what his contributions have been like off the ball, but going 20 games this season without scoring is awful, Sidwell or no Sidwell.

Ollie's interview after the match -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/match_of_the_day/7395129.stm

JPA

Neil3030 wrote: »

I'd have reservations about Doyle. Haven't seen enough Reading games to see what his contributions have been like off the ball, but going 20 games this season without scoring is awful, Sidwell or no Sidwell.

Ollie's interview after the match -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/match_of_the_day/7395129.stm

Very sad isn't it? Proper proper legend.

LeixlipRed

Hat off to the man. That's no empty gesture.