Villa Signings and General Rumours Thread

Pyjamarama

shoutman wrote: »

Are you taking the piss pyjamarama?

How would crouch fit into the villa team because of the pace of Gabby and Young? Crouch is a brutal target man cause he doesnt have the strength and gives away far too many free kicks by bundleing over players when trying to head the ball, he's got great feet and is a good player but to compare Carew and Crouch is ridiculous, Carew is a good target man and when he works hard and gets a bit of confidence going his way he is a quality player.

One Cold Hand was clearly being sarcastic when he said paying 6 mil + Barry for Crouch was a good deal, cause it isnt. Liverpools valuations are obviously crazy when their own players are saying it. Crouch is not, now will he ever be worth 16 million.

And as for you saying it would be dreamland to get 10 mil and crouch for Ash Young?!? This has to be a level, cause if you truely believe this would be a good deal for Villa you should start back on your meds cause you are obviously retarded.

Ashley Young and Gaz Baz are both priceless in my minds and hopefully in the minds of the team in charge at Villa, but if I had a chance to hold on to one of the two it would clearly be Young. He is a future legend. He will play at the highest levels of football and will no doubt be considered one of the best players in the world when he peaks.


PLEASE LET THIS GUY BE A PISSTAKER!

Well clearly i'm a pool supporter and if you read any of my other posts on boards that would be obvious although maybe i'm in the minority who like to visit both threads to keep abreast of both sides of the current tranfer rumour. I would have thought by the tone of my post it would also be obvious but clearly the opportunity to call someone retarded was far too easy for you to pass up. Well done on that. In all fairness that's a reportable post but i'm new here and maybe should have stated that I was a pool fan so I won't.

And if anyone has ever seen Crouch play in the last two years they'll see he's an excellent target man. He holds the ball up well and brings players into the game. His one massive weakness is his lack of pace and in an attack where your two other forwards clearly have that in abundance it would be a weakness that wouldn't be exposed as often. I mean he basically plays the same role for pool that Carew has all his career from Norway to Spain and now England. It's just that Carew is a better header of the ball whereas Crouch has better touch, a better finisher and is far superior at bringing players into the game.

Lets put it this way if you offered every manager in the prem Crouch or Carew i'm pretty sure it would be a landslide.

invincibleirish

Pyjamarama wrote: »

Well clearly i'm a pool supporter and if you read any of my other posts on boards that would be obvious although maybe i'm in the minority who like to visit both threads to keep abreast of both sides of the current tranfer rumour. I would have thought by the tone of my post it would also be obvious but clearly the opportunity to call someone retarded was far too easy for you to pass up. Well done on that. In all fairness that's a reportable post but i'm new here and maybe should have stated that I was a pool fan so I won't.

And if anyone has ever seen Crouch play in the last two years they'll see he's an excellent target man. He holds the ball up well and brings players into the game. His one massive weakness is his lack of pace and in an attack where your two other forwards clearly have that in abundance it would be a weakness that wouldn't be exposed as often. I mean he basically plays the same role for pool that Carew has all his career from Norway to Spain and now England. It's just that Carew is a better header of the ball whereas Crouch has better touch, a better finisher and is far superior at bringing players into the game.

Lets put it this way if you offered every manager in the prem Crouch or Carew i'm pretty sure it would be a landslide.

MON or plenty of Premiership fans dont have what Villa fans have, the memory of Crouch, in a Villa shirt, playing crap. I dont want him at Villa, despite his exploits since he left VP i still think he is uselss. Unless a new Shearer or Batistuta or whoever is uncovered then i Villa should stick With Carew as the lead striker, There is no point in Crouch coming back to VP to sit back on the bench he kept warm many a time. Again.

While we are on old boys, how about MON making a cheeky bid for David James whilst a new long term keeper is searched for. He is better then Lehmann and provided he doesnt make a howler in Saturdays Cup Final (does lightning strike 3 times?) and with Prolesmouths dodgy finances then he might be available?

Pyjamarama

invincibleirish wrote: »

MON or plenty of Premiership fans dont have what Villa fans have, the memory of Crouch, in a Villa shirt, playing crap. I dont want him at Villa, despite his exploits since he left VP i still think he is uselss. Unless a new Shearer or Batistuta or whoever is uncovered then i Villa should stick With Carew as the lead striker, There is no point in Crouch coming back to VP to sit back on the bench he kept warm many a time. Again.

While we are on old boys, how about MON making a cheeky bid for David James whilst a new long term keeper is searched for. He is better then Lehmann and provided he doesnt make a howler in Saturdays Cup Final (does lightning strike 3 times?) and with Prolesmouths dodgy finances then he might be available?

Thats a completely fair point, one shared by one of my best mates who's a villa fan. But just because someone didn't preform in the past doesn't mean he won't now. I mean he didn't settle at Villa and he's a lot older now and has matured as a player.

I mean Wenger has said he'd like to have Bentley still at Arsenal, it's a similar situation of a player maturing and improving after leaving a club. Happens all the time.

Bounty Hunter

I think most Villa fans rate Carew more than crouch despite the fact that we would admit that Crouch isnt the lanky streak-o-piss that played for Villa, as to use your term he has "matured" somewhat. His time with the national team shows this/his strike rate for Pool is also quite good but he does usually play only against the poorer opposition.

spiderdan

As a Villa fan I'd take Crouch over Carew! Carew is good, but I feel Crouch just about shades it. IMO we should be aiming for someone much more prolific then both of these players. We really need to show our ambition in this summers transfer market- or I rekon we could could be risking loosing Young aswell as Barry! we all know money isn't an obstacle!! no excuses

Bounty Hunter

Carew isnt the one we should be replacing IMO we should have someone instead of or to challenge Gabby while improving elsewhere. Crouch no thanks for me

Neil3030

Defence, defence, defence!!

Another top quality CB, 2 FBs and 2 Keepers before we should even LOOK at strikers.

invincibleirish

Am i mad or would a move for Downing & Wheater at Boro be a good move? when they do perform they both impress, so with a bit of MON coaching they could be great, plus it would piss Gareth Southgate off, just mindless speculation....

agree with the priority being given to spending on defence, maybe Donald Rumsfeld should take charge of Villas transfer spending

Bounty Hunter

Le Mans goalkeeper Yoann Pele has also been linked to Villa as well as Arsenal, Spurs and Middlesborough.

His agent, Duro Ivanisevic, said: "There is a very attractive offer from an English club."
He's 6'5" and after 30-40secs of this there are highlights of matches.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Pi3hTd9q0&feature=related..though anyone can look good on Youtube

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surprised nobody has mentioned this too considering the talk a few pages back

Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill will offer Reading £4m for Republic of Ireland striker Kevin Doyle. (Mirror)

Neil3030

I'd take Doyle ahead of Crouch.

Bounty Hunter

MON wrote:

"I feel we should have three goalkeepers anyway, especially if we get into the Uefa Cup," O'Neill told the BBC.

"Most teams have three goalkeepers; it's a specialised position. But we have a number of issues.

"Scott isn't our player. We have first option on him, but I haven't discussed anything with him. Liverpool have the right to do what they see fit.

"We've decided nothing. When we do, Scott should be the first to know."

and on Guzan

MON wrote:

"We'd hoped he'd have the work permit and would have been here for four or five months working with Scott Carson and the other goalkeepers to get a feel of the 'British' scene, as it were.

"Now, if there was a chance of getting him playing and helping his career towards the work permit then we'd definitely revisit it. The goalkeeping situation is one we're looking at."

so we should at least expect 2 goalies to join and neither the Guzan or Carson deals are dead but Guzan seems more likely from the above to me. Personally id expect/hope for Jussi (1st choice), Guzan (2nd choice who can be at Villa acclimitising till January and then on loan maybe getting exp) and Taylor (3rd choice)

invincibleirish

Neil3030 wrote: »

I'd take Doyle ahead of Crouch.

Come on, Villa can do better then that!

Neil3030

I never said we couldn't - but I'd take Doyle ahead of Crouch!

Savman

Pyjamarama wrote: »

It's just that Carew is a better header of the ball whereas Crouch has better touch, a better finisher and is far superior at bringing players into the game..

Tell you wot, if he's so superior, keep him.

invincibleirish

Savman wrote: »

Tell you wot, if he's so superior, keep him.

Its ok, LFC fans are putting on their best used car salesman impressions on their duds as they hope clubs like Villa will take the bait, the only thing i regret about Crouch leaving Villa is that the club probably didnt put a clause in for a % of future transfers!

Pyjamarama

invincibleirish wrote: »

Its ok, LFC fans are putting on their best used car salesman impressions on their duds as they hope clubs like Villa will take the bait, the only thing i regret about Crouch leaving Villa is that the club probably didnt put a clause in for a % of future transfers!

Why because we think MoN reads boards.ie!!! Come on our opinion of Crouch will have ZERO bearing on who if anyone buys him. If you go onto the pool mega thread you'll see that the majority of fans there would like to keep him.

Obviously the majority of Villa fans seem to prefer Carew and if they want to keep on battling for that Uefa cup spot that's the kind of player that'll keep you there... all my opinion of course and lord knows I've been wrong enough in the past!

I don't think anyone can deny he's a totally different player now than he was when he was at Villa...

Bounty Hunter

think you really undervalue Carew pyjamarama although you are right about Crouch hes very good, much better than when he played at VP, however we dont want him back. The press linked Villa to him a few times but its seems its Portsouth that are actually pursuing him. As i said before if Villa were to get a striker it would be someone to replace/challenge Gabby probably with maybe a different style to either Gabby or Carew. Maybe Zarate could be an option, def would be willing to live in Brum.

However as said by others it isnt upfront that Villa need immediate reinforcements (esp as we scored ore goals than most prem teams this season). Its in Defence first and therefore its good to here Wilfred Bouma who's been a rock this season saying this

The Wilf wrote:

'In my time here we have gone from 16th to 11th to sixth, which is a massive improvement. My performances have gone the same way as well and hopefully I can continue that after the summer.'

Adding, 'The extension to my contract is already there and there will be some talks in the coming weeks. I think we will get it sorted. The manager said it will be for two or three years so we will see what happens. I'm very pleased with how things are going and we shall see what the deal brings.'

2 or 3yr contract extension for him would be nice although id still like to see LB backup brought in like maybe Leicsters highly rated Joe Mattock (Villa were linked to hi recently) who turned 18 on thursday and has already represent England U-21s a few times.

shoutman

Bounty Hunter do you think that Gabby should be replaced? I would not lilke to see him on the bench.... I don't think he'd stand for it either... he's a young player and definately will get better with age, finishing wise anyway i'd imagine.

Bounty Hunter

shoutman wrote: »

Bounty Hunter do you think that Gabby should be replaced? I would not lilke to see him on the bench.... I don't think he'd stand for it either... he's a young player and definately will get better with age, finishing wise anyway i'd imagine.

not replaced really but id like to see someone brought in (if we were to sign a striker) that would be good enough to rotate with Gabby/Carew yet offer something different. Also with MON i wouldent necesarilly expect Gabby to lose his place in such a scenario he may instead drop to playing RWF. At the start of the season I think the common belief was that Gabby and Carew would start with Marlon as backup for Carew and Moore as backup for Gabby. Moore is hgone and while I like Harewood and think hes a great impact sub, I dont see him as a 1st team player going forward. So I think if a forward was to sign it should be someone like Zarate maybe (could see him at City next year tho) who could chalenge Gabby for his 1st team spot and push him on or give him a rest when we have more cup games this year, be it Uefa, CC or FA(each of which we only had 1 game in this year).

anyway we should be concentrating on getting GK's RB's etc first.

Neil3030

Sunday papers are throwing up a healthy mix of optimism and lunacy:

Sunday Mercury: Aston Villa were last night linked with a sensational swoop for Barcelona superstar Thierry Henry. Reports in the national press suggested Martin O'Neill is weighing up an audacious approach for the former Arsenal legend.

News of the World: Martin O'Neill is confident he will land Arsenal's Justin Hoyte, the England under-21 full-back the Aston Villa boss tried to buy last year for £4.5million. Hoyte, 23, is not the only English star O'Neill wants. Agreement has been reached with Chelsea for Steve Sidwell.

News of the World: Liverpool will turn their attention to Middlesbrough ace Stewart Downing if they fail to land Aston Villa's Gareth Barry. Villa skipper Barry remains the number one target but Villa's insistence on an £18m fee remains the stumbling block.

Daily Star: Scott Carson has edged a step closer to the exit door at Liverpool after Rafa Benitez agreed to drop the club's £10m asking price. Benitez is prepared to slash the fee for England goalkeeper Carson to around £6m and Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill is ready to pounce.

shoutman

Thierry Henry LMAO! Could there be a type of player that MON would be less interested in buying?

All of his other buys have primarily been young up and coming english players, why would he suddenly go for an over the hill, but probably still very good french striker?

Hoyte, Sidwell and Carson(I suppose) would be decent buys.

Still not overly enthusiastic on Carson.

Do you reckon MON knows something that the rest of us don't, like fifa are planning to allow only three foreigners in the starting team again, that would be great if it was the case lol.

Neil3030

Haha, maybe he does. Or maybe he's been taking some lessons in investing off Randy. Given how grossly overpriced good english players are, get in there early and cash in when they mature.

We sign Diego and Henry now we'll be doing o.k.

invincibleirish

Indeed why stop at Henry & Diego? I hear Deco & Eto'o want out too, the latter being linked with spuds, Deco apparently wants to play in Italy or England, i'd rather him to Henry!

GuanYin

Henry wouldn't be a good signing for any team looking to improve, better as an extra option for a team.

I don't think he's return to the EPL for any club but Arsenal and I don't think Wenger would take him back as a player. A coach maybe, but not a player.

When I watch Villa I always think they are missing something, but I can never quite figure out what that something is.

Bounty Hunter

PSI wrote: »

Henry wouldn't be a good signing for any team looking to improve, better as an extra option for a team.

I don't think he's return to the EPL for any club but Arsenal and I don't think Wenger would take him back as a player. A coach maybe, but not a player.

When I watch Villa I always think they are missing something, but I can never quite figure out what that something is.

a right hand side? no RB or RM almost all season

invincibleirish

PSI wrote: »

Henry wouldn't be a good signing for any team looking to improve, better as an extra option for a team.

I don't think he's return to the EPL for any club but Arsenal and I don't think Wenger would take him back as a player. A coach maybe, but not a player.

When I watch Villa I always think they are missing something, but I can never quite figure out what that something is.

Goals from central midfield are Villas achilles heel, that and the porous defence. If Barry stays or go id love an Arteta type signing anyway to provide an offensive threat.

Henry is an expensive luxury, but MONs magic could surely do a job on him? under MON Henrik Larsson went from anonymous to brilliant, Henry has been living like a prima donna the past few seasons, he needs no nonsense manager to whip him into something special again, he's only 31, there is still some football left to play in him. Of course the easy option is the easy money, if he does come back to the PL (and this talk about he wont go back to any club but Arsenal is nonsense, money talks), he'll prob go to basketcase clubs like Man City, or Newcastle (or even Spurs;)) where the money is stupid, as is the whole managerial set up.

shoutman

I agree with Bounty Hunter, we are missing any sort of width on the right hand side.

As I've said before I think Shaun Wright Philips would be awesome, our attacking pace of Young Gabby and himself would send the ****z up defences across England and further abroad. It will also mean that teams cant just double team Young as there will always be another option. Arteta partnering Barry in the midfield would be unbelievable but would people agree that it would be hard to have the pair of them playing in a team without a tweak in formation that would also allow for a holding midfielder (ie. Reo-Coker),

A good right back with the pace and trickery to beat players (a right sided roberto carlos type player) would be amazing too.

Esse85

Hoyte and Sidwell have played very little in the past year. I wouldnt mind these as squad players but first team players i dunno. I think we should put in a serious bid for Richard Dunne and possibly Johnson at Man City.

Players i can see leaving this summer are:
Maloney
Harewood
Sorenson

We'll already be minus Berger, Mellberg and Moore

I wonder what impact Osbourne, Salifou and Routledge will have next season.

Neil3030

Esse85 wrote: »

Hoyte and Sidwell have played very little in the past year. I wouldnt mind these as squad players but first team players i dunno. I think we should put in a serious bid for Richard Dunne and possibly Johnson at Man City.

I'd love to see Dunne at Villa Park, but I think MON has faith in Davies as his #1 to partner Laursen, so if he signs a CB over the summer it will be a standard MON player, young eager hungry etc., not an experienced first teamer like RD.

Players i can see leaving this summer are:
Maloney
Harewood
Sorenson

Sorenson's definitely on his way, though that deal looks off with Ipswich. Harewood and Maloney I'd like to see leave on the grounds that they are really SPL/Championship standard first-team players, who at best make average impact as subs.

I wonder what impact Osbourne, Salifou and Routledge will have next season.

To be brutally honest? Hopefully none. If we are to be improving next year I can't see any place in our first team for players who couldn't make the grade this year.

Bounty Hunter

Esse85 wrote: »

Players i can see leaving this summer are:
Maloney
Harewood

3 DF Wilfred Bouma
5 DF Martin Laursen
6 MF Gareth Barry (captain)
7 MF Ashley Young
9 FW Marlon Harewood
10 FW John Carew
11 FW Gabriel Agbonlahor
15 DF Curtis Davies
16 DF Zat Knight
18 MF Wayne Routledge
19 MF Stiliyan Petrov
20 MF Nigel Reo-Coker (vice-captain)
26 MF Craig Gardner
28 FW Shaun Maloney

17 MF Moustapha Salifou
27 MF Isaiah Osbourne
13 GK Stuart Taylor
14 FW Nathan Delfouneso
29 DF Stephen O'Halloran
33 MF Zoltan Stieber

according to Wikipedia this is Villa's current squad, however I have seperated the second group of 6 as they are the players I dont expect to have a huge impact on first team proceeding next year (prove me wrong lads). That leaves 14 players and considering there will be 7 on the bench next year (18 man squad on match days) then we certainly cant ship off players like Maloney & Harewood and need at a bare minimum 4 (but hopefully more)more players as good as or better than the top group.

Esse85

Neil i agree with you on all 3 points.

But i honestly dont think Laursen will be as good next season. I certainly dont think he'll get near as many goals as he did. John Terry scored a similiar amount a few seasons back, the goals have certainly dried up since.

Davies might not be back till October and it'll take him a while to settle in. I know we need a RB more but due to the circumstances at city, i think a cheeky bid of £8-10m might leave that ejit of an owner at City rubbing his hands, he seems to know little about the game.

Harewood knows he wont start a game and at his age he'll surely look for first team football even if its in the championship, although i think he'd be suited to a promoted team.
I dont know whether Maloney can cut it in the EPL, certainly not with a top 8 side, whether he'd want to even stay in England im not sure, would Celtic even have him back??

Regarding Salifou and Osbourne and even Gardner, i think adequate cover should be brought in so these players can go out on loan an get regular first team action.
Im living in a dreamland hoping this will happen but if we've any notion of gettin 5th next season then we need better players than these on the bench.

Neil3030

This setup should cost less than £30m. There'll obviously be disagreement over certain positions, but it gives an idea as to where we could be after parting with arguably very little cash (seeing as we just took in over £40m in TV revenue).

==========Jääskeläinen==========
Nelson===Dunne===Laursen===Bouma
SWP====Reo Coker===Barry===Young
=========Carew==Saha==========

Subs:
Hennessey
Davies
Mattock
Sidwell
Petrov
Routledge
Agbonlahor

Hopefully the following would then be happy to remain on the periphery or in the reserves, otherwise they should be sold, or maybe in the case of the younger blood loaned out: Knight, Harewood, Maloney, Salifou, Osbourne, Taylor, Stieber, O'Halloran, Delfouneso, Taylor, Gardner

Savman

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

14 FW Nathan Delfouneso

Whoah, easy with the rifle there Bounty Hunter. This kid was given a squad number by MON last season and travelled with the team down to Fulham. If reports are to believed, he could be closer than you may think to first team action. Let's not cast all our squad down to the non-league eh

Esse85

I think the 3 clubs that could be raided for players include Chelsea, Spurs and Man City

Bounty Hunter

Savman wrote: »

Whoah, easy with the rifle there Bounty Hunter. This kid was given a squad number by MON last season and travelled with the team down to Fulham. If reports are to believed, he could be closer than you may think to first team action. Let's not cast all our squad down to the non-league eh

He is now part of the first team squad and the one in particular that made me add the ...(prove me wrong)... bit. Ive only heard good things about this guy but dont expect him to have a huge impact next season and just as Neil suggests I think a loan could do him good, giving him a chance to exp first team football.

that team Neil posted also would be a realistic, affordable significant step forward but despit his quality i wouldent want Saha as he simply isnt fit enough.

Neil3030

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

i wouldent want Saha as he simply isnt fit enough.

Henry so?

Esse85

Skysports say



Aston Villa are rumoured to be tracking Real Valladolid goalkeeper Sergio Asenjo.

Asenjo, 18, has been in impressive form for Valladolid this campaign and has reportedly caught the eye of a number of top European clubs.

It is claimed that Villa scouts attended Valladolid's recent 1-1 draw at Real Betis to view the teenager, who has a buy-out clause of 4.5million euros (£3.3million).

Asenjo's agent, Fernando Redondo, said: "There has been interest from some English clubs but we are still yet to receive a formal offer."

The Spanish shot-stopper added: "It would be a dream but I prefer to remain calm and only to believe if an offer is received."

invincibleirish

Esse85 wrote: »

Skysports say



Aston Villa are rumoured to be tracking Real Valladolid goalkeeper Sergio Asenjo.

Asenjo, 18, has been in impressive form for Valladolid this campaign and has reportedly caught the eye of a number of top European clubs.

It is claimed that Villa scouts attended Valladolid's recent 1-1 draw at Real Betis to view the teenager, who has a buy-out clause of 4.5million euros (£3.3million).

Asenjo's agent, Fernando Redondo, said: "There has been interest from some English clubs but we are still yet to receive a formal offer."

The Spanish shot-stopper added: "It would be a dream but I prefer to remain calm and only to believe if an offer is received."

Hmm maybe we might try and convince his agent to tog out for Villa? im sure that old dog could teach NRC a few tricks form the argentinian old school.

I'd love if Henry, Saha, Diego & SWP signed, somehow i doubt any of them will come to Villa, not unless Randy Lerner gets his chequebook out.......

Savman

invincibleirish wrote: »

I'd love if Henry, Saha, Diego & SWP signed, somehow i doubt any of them will come to Villa, not unless Randy Lerner gets his chequebook out.......

He has done and will again, it's not Randy stopping these guys from coming. All roads lead to MON as far as the club are concerned. I can see a bright future in wealth management for MON

Neil3030

As much as I would love to be proven wrong, I can't see Henry or Diego signing for a club not playing in the Champions' Leauge, unless it's to a club like Newcastle who will throw silly money at them.

Neil3030

I admire the Mail for starting this campaign, but I can't help but feel it's an ominous indication that they know something we don't...

Help persuade Gareth Barry to stay at Aston Villa

May 19 2008

TODAY the Birmingham Mail is calling on all Villa fans to help us persuade Gareth Barry his future lies at Villa Park.

We want you to ring us, write to us, email us or join our campaign online to let him know just how highly valued he is by you – the loyal Villa supporter.

Barry is Villa's heartbeat and has been for several years. While the national press (and Liverpool FC) have only recently 'discovered' him we, here in the Second City, have known for years what a class act he is.

And, remember, he got his England recognition playing for Villa.

Barry knows his name is the first on Martin O'Neill's team-sheet – at Liverpool he could spend a lot of time on the bench with Rafa's famous rotation policy.

We know every player dreams of Champions League football, pitting his skills against the best in the world.

But, such has been the club's transformation under O'Neill, he could soon realise that ambition with Villa anyway – he is already getting another taste of Europe in the InterToto Cup next season, which could lead to UEFA Cup glory.

In O'Neill he is playing for one of the best managers in football, who has transformed Villa from mid-table Premiership mediocrity into genuine European hopefuls ready to challenge the Prem's so-called Big Four.

Don't go Gareth. For the last 10 years you have given the club your all and you are so close to helping bring the glory days back. It would be a shame to leave now.

Stay and finish the job. Villa and the fans need you.

Email your.shout@birminghammail.net. Telephone: 0800 138 2555 (freephone). Write to: Your Shout, Sports Desk, Birmingham Mail, Weaman Street, Birmingham B4 6AT. Online: Go to birminghammail.net, click on forums (Villa).

invincibleirish

Savman wrote: »

He has done and will again, it's not Randy stopping these guys from coming. All roads lead to MON as far as the club are concerned. I can see a bright future in wealth management for MON

As i keep saying, i'll believe it when i see x y & z sitting next to a smiling MON at a VP press conference 'unveiling'.

If x y & z is a Marlon Harewood or a Zat Knight i'll continue to cast minor dispersions on Villas spending prowess.

P.S. i think Stephan Ireland would be a good signing on the basis that MON will clamp down on his manbitch tendancies.

Esse85

SWP says he has no plans to leave Chelsea despite only 3 starts since January, we wants to see out his contract till 2010.

He's some tosser, players like him make me sick. He's just happy to sit on the sidelines and pick up his money every week. He couldnt be bothered going to another club because he might actually have to play a game.

He must have no ambition to get into the England team or do himself any justice, i hope he rots in the reserves, the greedy d1ckhead.

IrishMike

Esse85 wrote: »

SWP says he has no plans to leave Chelsea despite only 3 starts since January, we wants to see out his contract till 2010.

He's some tosser, players like him make me sick. He's just happy to sit on the sidelines and pick up his money every week. He couldnt be bothered going to another club because he might actually have to play a game.

He must have no ambition to get into the England team or do himself any justice, i hope he rots in the reserves, the greedy d1ckhead.

He comes from a long line of Chelsea mercenaries.
Anyone remember winston bogarde?
Sickening to think a player can be happy to sit on the bench for a year to claim an "extra" million.
As if they would even notice the money.
Lots of players in the same boat.

Esse85

Bogarde is different in that he was nearing towards the end of his career when this happened.

SWP has a career still ahead of him yet at his age he's choosing to pick up the cash while bench warming, thats sad given the talent he's got.

Savman

Esse85 wrote: »

SWP says he has no plans to leave Chelsea despite only 3 starts since January, we wants to see out his contract till 2010.

He's some tosser, players like him make me sick. He's just happy to sit on the sidelines and pick up his money every week. He couldnt be bothered going to another club because he might actually have to play a game.

He must have no ambition to get into the England team or do himself any justice, i hope he rots in the reserves, the greedy d1ckhead.

What a totally OTT and ridiculous post. He's a "tosser" and a "dickhead" because he won't leave a club who finished 2nd in the Premiership and are in the CL final to join a club in the Intertoto? Bollox. It's the guy's choice where he plays his football, be it first team or reserves, don't see why you're getting so worked up about it. If Chelsea are happy to pay him funny money every week, what the hell do you care? Silly.

JPA

It's not like SWP is rotting in the reserves either. He made 39 appearances so far this season.
He could join someone like Villa, be practically guaranteed a start and play in the intertoto or he could stay at Chelsea, earn more money and play a not insignificant role for them.

Esse85

Who's getting worked up now :eek::eek::eek:

I never said he should join a club in the intertoto, i said it sickens me that's he's content to sit on the bench picking up a huge amount of money, when as a footballer you'd expect a player to want to play week in, week out.

I care because the majority of people are not half as talented as him and they'd do anything to have his talent yet he's happy to let that talent go to waste.

Are you Ian Wright in disguise

Savman

Esse85 wrote: »

Who's getting worked up now :eek::eek::eek:
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Better players than SWP have wasted their talents. Gazza is one that springs to mind as is Maradona. If Wright Phillips wants to warm Chelsea's bench, it sure is a crying shame, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. Certainly not gonna get worked up enough to start calling him every name under the sun.

The point is, he's only made 3 starts since Grant took over in January and he says he wants to stay there. Dumb decision, but whatever. In truth, if he ever decides to quit Stamford Bridge there would be a rake of clubs after him so there's no guarantees he would even end up at VP.

Esse85

Tosser + D1ckhead can now be classed as "calling him every name under the sun"
Have you only got these 2 words in your vocab??

Why bring Gazza and Maradonna into it, they've both achieved more than SWP ever will.

My point that i made about SWP was that it angers me how he can sit on his backside and happily collect excessive wages without actually doing very much when alternatively he could be playing every week earning less.