Broadband Penetration By Household In A Developed Country .

Sponge Bob

.....should look precisely like this UK regions map over on Point Topic . The greenest bits indicate a Household penetration rate over 40% of households.

The areas with low takeup in England and Wales are rural .....very very rural in many cases OR ELSE they have a lot of second or holiday homes that are not in permanent use which can distort the stats badly .

Also remember that many of the really green bits have widely available 3g and Cable access alternatives as well, unlike the rural areas which have neither.

This is basically the equivalent map of where Noel Dempsey and Comreg want us to be by 2010 or 2011 ....because thats how far behind the UK we are now . Dempsey will be long gone from Comms by then and could not care less.

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BB penetration Dec 2005 and population density

Country/BB Penetration %/Pop density per km2
Iceland 26.7 3.0
Korea 25.4 483.0
Netherlands 25.3 399.0
Denmark 25.0 125.0
Switzerland 23.1 179.0
Finland 22.5 15.0
Norway 21.9 14.0
Canada 21.0 3.0
Sweden 20.3 20.0
Belgium 18.3 341.0
Japan 17.6 338.0
United States 16.8 31.0
United Kingdom 15.9 244.0
France 15.2 110.0
Luxembourg 14.9 174.0
Austria 14.1 97.0
Australia 13.8 3.0
Germany 13.0 231.0
Italy 11.9 191.0
Spain 11.7 85.0
Portugal 11.5 114.0
New Zealand 8.1 15.0
Ireland 6.7 58.0
Czech Republic 6.4 129.0
Hungary 6.3 109.0
Slovak Republic 2.5 110.0
Poland 2.4 122.0
Mexico 2.2 52.0
Turkey 2.1 92.0
Greece 1.4 84.0

One could probably come up with an BB predictive penetration index with a high degree of correlation to actual penetration rates using a formula comprising a few variables such as the (a) quality of the education system, (b) population density, (c) GDP/capita and (d) a telecoms "degree of market monopolization of the local loop and cable" index.

In the case of Ireland, the problems are primarily (a) and (d).

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1huge1

ha in your face Czech Republic
i thought we were ahead of NZ though

Sponge Bob

nope, NZ is ahead of us . The czechs have caught up considerably because they use a 3g product like the Voda one on a massive scale but it only runs at about 256k at present (maybe 1mbit later this year) and has more spectrum available to it than would be the case here.

the OECD (twas them) allows the czechs to count this 256k product in their BB figures just like they allow Noel to count satellite stuff and 10s or 1000s of Ripwaves which are not BB at all . Here is why

** The OECD statistics for the "Other Broadband" category of the Czech Republic include a large number of fixed wireless broadband connections provided over mobile networks. Broadband subscriptions over 3G networks are not included for other countries but an exception was made for the Czech Republic because the connections make use of "fixed" equipment in a home and offer speeds greater than 256 kbit/s to individual users. The Czech market is particular due to the high number of these wireless broadband connections as a percentage of total connectivity. It is important to note that there is continuing debate in international circles as to whether this type of wireless connection (numbering 188 000 in CZ) should be included in international broadband comparisons.

The Czechs will officially pass us out shortly (or already) as NZ has already done.

Noel should ask the OECD to rule on whether Ripwave is BB too, the OECD would laugh at him I'll wager which means the Czechs are ahead .

lucernarian

Sponge Bob wrote:

nope, NZ is ahead of us . The czechs have caught up considerably because they use a 3g product like the Voda one on a massive scale but it only runs at about 256k at present (maybe 1mbit later this year) and has more spectrum available to it than would be the case here.

the OECD (twas them) allows the czechs to count this 256k product in their BB figures just like they allow Noel to count satellite stuff and 10s or 1000s of Ripwaves which are not BB at all . Here is why



The Czechs will officially pass us out shortly (or already) as NZ has already done.

Noel should ask the OECD to rule on whether Ripwave is BB too, the OECD would laugh at him I'll wager which means the Czechs are ahead .

You are not so quick to point out the latest figures released do not include Digiweb Metro and FWA customers.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054954012&page=3 second and third posts.

Sponge Bob

True that . There are more Ripwaves 'out there' than Digiweb FWA and Metros . They will probably cancel each other out in time for the next OECD igures in December this year.

Wonder if we should count Irishwan.??

damien

Should we count the Vodafone product? According to Vodafone's man in TIF, it won't matter since nobody wants it:

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/news/news.nv?storyid=single6858

O'Fahey has accepted the IBEC soup then.

Sponge Bob

we cannot count the Irish Voda product under OECD rules ...thats why I explained why the Czechs (uniquely) have permission to count it. The Czech yoke is screwed into a wall and therefore fixed wireless.

damien

Yet they allow Ripwave? Also Voda have been heavily pimping this to the DCMNR as a broadband product. If they allow sat and ripwave, why not allow this?

Sponge Bob

They count Ripwave and Clearwire.

Read the OECd note on the Czechs again

Broadband subscriptions over 3G networks are not included for other countries but an exception was made for the Czech Republic because the connections make use of "fixed" equipment in a home and offer speeds greater than 256 kbit/s to individual users.

While clearwire is not fixed its normally over 256k but Ripwave is neither over 256k mor fixed and cannot possibly be BB under the OECD definition.

To come up with 320k odd BB connections at the end of 2005 Comreg included 15000 - 20000 Ripwaves which got us ahead of the Czechs (just).

But unreported Digiweb fixed wireless connections may cancel out the Ripwaves as TBC said.

They are the bulk of the rather high "Other" category in the OECD table for Ireland

cgarvey

Ripwave not being fixed might be an issue, but expecting OECD figures to take into account levels of service is stretching it IMO. I can't see any reason why nomadic BB shouldn't be included.

Sponge Bob

I agree CG but I am not the OECD who made the rules that were disregarded in this most cavalier manner.