Towns still waiting for a bypass

JupiterKid · 06-11-2008 7:44pm

Can we get away from the topic of the merits or not of the M9 motorway or if posters must drag the topic on, could they start a new thread?. This road is currently being built (and now a section is open) so the time for deabte I think is over.

There are many, many towns that urgently need their bottlenecks cleared, and I would hope that NRA realises this and prioritises projects accordingly. When the MIU routes are complete, attention needs to turn to them. Town such as :

Claregalway
Macroom
Buttevant
Charleville
Adare
Athy
Newcastle West
Abbeyfeale
Castleisland
Slane
Ballaghaderreen
Virginia
Belturbet
Enniscorthy
New Ross
Carrick On Suir
Manorhamilton
Blessington
Baltinglass
Carrick On Shannon
Longford (N5)
Ballybofey/Stranorlar
Bandon
Tipperary Town

Have I missed any?
Maybe pinsters could classifiy the towns in terms of urgency - the ones needing work done first, second and so on.

BluntGuy · 06-11-2008 7:53pm

I created a new thread to deal with the whole M9 thing...

Let's move our arguments there and get this thread back on topic!

mysterious · 06-11-2008 10:18pm

JupiterKid wrote: »

Can we get away from the topic of the merits or not of the M9 motorway or if posters must drag the topic on, could they start a new thread?. This road is currently being built (and now a section is open) so the time for deabte I think is over.

There are many, many towns that urgently need their bottlenecks cleared, and I would hope that NRA realises this and prioritises projects accordingly. When the MIU routes are complete, attention needs to turn to them. Town such as :

Claregalway
Macroom
Buttevant
Charleville
Adare
Athy
Newcastle West
Abbeyfeale
Castleisland
Slane
Ballaghaderreen
Virginia
Belturbet
Enniscorthy
New Ross
Carrick On Suir
Manorhamilton
Blessington
Baltinglass
Carrick On Shannon
Longford (N5)
Ballybofey/Stranorlar
Bandon
Tipperary Town

Have I missed any?
Maybe pinsters could classifiy the towns in terms of urgency - the ones needing work done first, second and so on.

New list below.

Claregalway (N17/18)
Tuam (N17)
Charlestown (N17)
Macroom (N71)
Buttevant (N20)
Charleville (N20)
Adare (N21)
Athy (N78)
Newcastle West (N21
Abbeyfeale (N21)
Castleisland (N21)
Slane (N2)
Ballaghaderreen (N5)
Virginia (N3)
Belturbet (N3)
Enniscorthy (N25)
New Ross (N25)
Carrick On Suir (N24)
Carrick On Shannon Partially bypassed already!
Longford (N5)
Ballybofey/Stranorlar (N17)
Bandon (N71)
Tipperary Town (N24)
Carrick on Suir (N24)
Birr (N52/N62)
Roscrea (N62)
Thurles (N62 and orbital)
Portlaoise (N80)
Castlemartyr N25

Not priority schemes but still needed in the long term future
Manorhamilton (N15)
Blessington (N81)
Baltinglass (N80)
Clara bypass (N80)
Portumna (N65)
Borriskane (N52/65)
Farrenfore (N23)
Ballyhaunis (N63/60)

Bold/Underlined = .Vital and necessary now
Standard text = needed eventually(Not vital short term)

I'm sure I've pretty much covered the main bypasses.

BluntGuy · 06-11-2008 10:21pm

An N17 scheme of some kind within the next 5 years (I know it's needed now - but I'm trying to be optamistic when it comes to funding -) needs to go ahead.

Also, I'd like to see the northern part of the M20 go ahead first to cover some of the awful bottlenecks...

mysterious · 06-11-2008 11:40pm

BluntGuy wrote: »

An N17 scheme of some kind within the next 5 years (I know it's needed now - but I'm trying to be optamistic when it comes to funding -) needs to go ahead.

Also, I'd like to see the northern part of the M20 go ahead first to cover some of the awful bottlenecks...

The worst ones
are
Claregalway
NCW
Adare at the moment

They need sorting out before the majority of the other's get attention.
Traffic on all three surpass WS2 upgrades!

road_high · 07-11-2008 12:14am

Tullow N81
Mooncoin N24

Clonmel N24 and Dungarvan N25 have ring roads with too many bypasses and development. Need bypasses too.

D'Peoples Voice · 04-01-2009 3:42pm

mysterious wrote: »

New list below.
Claregalway (N17/18)

Tuam (N17)

Charlestown (N17)

Macroom (N71)

Buttevant (N20)

Charleville (N20)

Adare (N21)

Athy (N78)

Newcastle West (N21

Abbeyfeale (N21)

Castleisland (N21)

Slane (N2)

Ballaghaderreen (N5)

Virginia (N3)

Belturbet (N3)

Enniscorthy (N25)

New Ross (N25)

Carrick On Suir (N24)

Carrick On Shannon Partially bypassed already!

Longford (N5)

Ballybofey/Stranorlar (N17)

Bandon (N71)

Tipperary Town (N24)

Carrick on Suir (N24)

Birr (N52/N62)

Roscrea (N62)

Thurles (N62 and orbital)

Portlaoise (N80)

Castlemartyr N25

Not priority schemes but still needed in the long term future
Manorhamilton (N15)
Blessington (N81)
Baltinglass (N80)
Clara bypass (N80)
Portumna (N65)
Borriskane (N52/65)
Farrenfore (N23)
Ballyhaunis (N63/60)

Bold/Underlined = .Vital and necessary now
Standard text = needed eventually(Not vital short term)

I'm sure I've pretty much covered the main bypasses.

Emyvale (N2) ?

Typewriter · 04-01-2009 4:23pm

mysterious wrote: »

New list below.
Enniscorthy (N25)

Enniscorthy is N11

jd · 05-01-2009 12:01am

green_jesus wrote: »

Enniscorthy is N11

And N30,

1huge1 · 05-01-2009 2:16am

Well in my eyes Tipperary town has been a traffic bottleneck since I was a little child. Seriously needs a bypass.

L1011 · 05-01-2009 2:27am

mysterious wrote: »

Not priority schemes but still needed in the long term future
Manorhamilton (N15)

Isn't Manorhamilton on the N16 and already has some sort of surreal one way / ring system?

Danno · 05-01-2009 2:26pm

Abbeyleix?

L1011 · 05-01-2009 2:29pm

Danno wrote: »

Abbeyleix?

Majority of traffic will be removed from it by the M8, while not a direct bypass its as good as.

mysterious · 07-01-2009 4:24pm

MYOB wrote: »

Majority of traffic will be removed from it by the M8, while not a direct bypass its as good as.

Then the Old N8 will become the N78 Portlaoise to Kilkenny road.
The road is adequate anyhoo. Plus it would be much sigh relief than still having to negoiate accross the N8.

mysterious · 07-01-2009 4:25pm

MYOB wrote: »

Isn't Manorhamilton on the N16 and already has some sort of surreal one way / ring system?

Realisitically it won't be getting a bypass.

mysterious · 07-01-2009 4:28pm

With the Mullingar and Tullamore bypass coming on and the long opened Nenagh N52 bypass. Does it not make sense to finish Roscrea phase 2 N62 section and the Birr bypass also.

Roscrea needs a relief road from the Limerick road RO to the birr road. The towns streets are just far to narrow to handle traffic. Roscrea is a lovely town to pass through though.

rameire · 07-01-2009 9:20pm

mysterious wrote: »

Then the Old N8 will become the N78 Portlaoise to Kilkenny road.
The road is adequate anyhoo. Plus it would be much sigh relief than still having to negoiate accross the N8.

and what will happen to the lovely N78 that is already there. from Kilcullen to Kilkenny

would you mean n77

Tech3 · 08-01-2009 1:17am

mysterious wrote: »

New list below.
Charlestown (N17)

Bold/Underlined = .Vital and necessary now

I cant see why a charlestown bypass is vital. Pass though every week and never been held up in traffic.

chronic traffic spots
Adare
Claregalway
Charleville
Castleisland

jrar · 08-01-2009 4:46pm

tech2 wrote: »

I cant see why a charlestown bypass is vital. Pass though every week and never been held up in traffic.

chronic traffic spots
Adare
Claregalway
Charleville
Castleisland

If Charlestown was re-alinged so that the N17 through the town became the main road with the old N5 relegated to secondary, traffic would flow even better. Not sure the volumes on the N17 at that juncture require a dedicated by-pass to be honest.

Yes, would improve life for Charlestown residents bu then so would parking properly and allowing traffic to flow through relatively quickly etc. with some speed controls on the Galway and Bellaghy sides of the town to slow down incoming traffic etc.

mysterious · 10-01-2009 12:57am

rameire wrote: »

and what will happen to the lovely N78 that is already there. from Kilcullen to Kilkenny

would you mean n77

Beg your pardon, I mean the N77. It would be great to see the N77 extended along the old N8 when the M8 is finished. It would make alot of sense. Cheers for the error correction, I should of known that mistake.

But on topic, they really need to build the Adare bypass, the amount of traffic that passes through the town, is equal that of kildare or enfiled back in the day, especially in summer, like the N7, its one of the busiest tourist routes.

It's the main road to Kerry and the southwest from Limerick and Dublin, baiscally the extension of the N7. The N7 should actually end in Tralee. Or at least Tralee should be sign posted on the N7 coming from Dublin.

mysterious · 10-01-2009 1:00am

jrar wrote: »

If Charlestown was re-alinged so that the N17 through the town became the main road with the old N5 relegated to secondary, traffic would flow even better. Not sure the volumes on the N17 at that juncture require a dedicated by-pass to be honest.

Yes, would improve life for Charlestown residents bu then so would parking properly and allowing traffic to flow through relatively quickly etc. with some speed controls on the Galway and Bellaghy sides of the town to slow down incoming traffic etc.

Well it's a national primary route, and is part of the Atlantic corridor, I do see it as a vital piece of infastructure that will be needed in the near future anyhoo.

The N18 sections are under construction, and the Gort to Tuam sections willl start after that, leading Charletown been one of the last towns left to be bypassed along the western corridor (N20/N17/N18)

Tech3 · 10-01-2009 4:34pm

mysterious wrote: »

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The N7 should actually end in Tralee. Or at least Tralee should be sign posted on the N7 coming from Dublin.

It would be great to have a motorway all the way from dublin to tralee :cool:

mayoimafriad · 28-05-2009 1:25am

Ballinrobe in mayo can be very bad at peak times

mayoimafriad · 28-05-2009 1:33am

i agree with tech2, i travel through Charlestown regularly and i rarely get held up! it realy doesn't deserve a bypass compared to other towns around the country which suffer from chronic congestion. i always find it strange though the way the N17 sligo road into Charlestown seems so much busier than the Galway road into Charlestown. you would never think they are the same road. Traffic volumes from Charlestown to Knock seems very low, then near Claremorris its like a different road which is always extremely busy?! strange

Tech3 · 28-05-2009 3:17am

mysterious wrote: »

The N18 sections are under construction, and the Gort to Tuam sections willl start after that, leading Charletown been one of the last towns left to be bypassed along the western corridor (N20/N17/N18)

Would rather see Sligo bypassed IMO before any bypasses of Charlestown, Tobercurry, Miltown, Balindine etc... assuming the N17/N18 gets built.

Sponge Bob · 28-05-2009 9:01am

Charlestown is not a problem on the N17 , never was to my mind and neither is Tobercurry or Ballindine . Tobercurry got a biteen of a bypass 30 years ago .

North of Sligo for about 10 miles to Grange is a really cack road . Slow and dangerous .

Once you go north of Grange it is liveable with until you reach Ballybofey which is in need of a bypass too.

I completely agree that Adare and Claregalway are utterly dire and need doing yesterday .

Longford is another one .

If there is no money for the M18 I would consider a a small bypass of Clarinbridge too to provide relief for the next 10 years and for safety reasons long term post construction of the M18 . Clarinbridge and Adare attract tourists who pull out like sheep in front of people . If the PPP fails I would build the Tuam bypass portion alone because Tuam is another bottleneck

Anywhere else I can think of in the west is not a priority or is already done or allegedly being done ..eg Castleisland .

mysterious · 28-05-2009 12:49pm

Sponge Bob wrote: »

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Anywhere else I can think of in the west is not a priority or is already done or allegedly being done ..eg Castleisland .

Castleisland, is a priority, it has the N21 and N23 passing through it at perpendicular. Trucks have crashed into buildings in the town by not been able to manovovre around the junctions. This road suffers congestion in the summer. The town has been crying for a bypass for 20 years.

It is a priority. It annoys me whan people talk about things they don't know:mad: it's really pathetic when people do this.

L1011 · 28-05-2009 12:53pm

mysterious wrote: »

Castleisland, is a priority, it has the N21 and N23 passing through it at perpendicular. Trucks have crashed into buildings in the town by not been able to manovovre around the junctions. This road suffers congestion in the summer. The town has been crying for a bypass for 20 years.

It is a priority. It annoys me whan people talk about things they don't know:mad: it's really pathetic when people do this.

I'd advise you to learn to read before you accuse someone of saying something. Sponge Bob didn't say it wasn't a priority; he said it was 'allegedly being done', e.g. we've been told its getting a bypass.

Chris_533976 · 28-05-2009 1:01pm

Its started.

BluntGuy · 28-05-2009 1:05pm

Chris_533976 wrote: »

Its started.

What? The bypass or another argument with mysterious?

Towns still waiting for a bypass

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