Crap cars top 10;

junkyard

I was looking at Amazon.com and I came across a book called Crap cars and it got me thinking, I'd start a thread here on a similar topic. Well here goes, my crap cars top 10;

1. Citroen BX.
2. Austin Allegro.
3. Rover Metro.
4. Renault Laguna( Any).
5. Vw Golf/Bora.
6. Peugeot 307/206.
7. Fiat Punto/Brava/Bravo.
8. Alfa Romeo (Any)
9. Renault Megane.
10. Skoda Felica.

AlanD

Booo.....lots of cars there I wouldn't call crap.....
1. Cirtoen BX - drove one for years, 1.9D loved it except when a corner came up. Mother had auto diesel BX and ran it to 300k on the clock.
2. Austin Allegro - definitely crap
3. Rover Metro - worse
4. Renault Laguna( Any). - not the worst, not the best
5. Vw Golf/Bora - not a huge fan
6. Peugeot 307/206 - 307 yes, 206 no....owned 2 with no issues(both 136bhp though so not so wheezy - 8v petrols are poor).
7. Fiat Punto/Brava/Bravo - agree
8. Alfa Romeo (Any) - such potential
9. Renault Megane - agree
10. Skoda Felica - agree



My top 10 crap cars (in no particular order):

1. Austin Metro
2. Austin Maestro
3. VW Golf Mk 3
4. Nissan Micra, latest generations
5. Ford Orion Diesel
6. Austin Montego
7. Opel Ascona
8. Fiat Ritmo
9. Ford Mondeo Mk 1
10. Volvo 340

Thing is, the list isn't consistent and I've picked those cars for different reasons. There's lots of cars I could think of as being "crap" for one reason or another.....

Good topic....

junkyard

AlanD wrote:

Thing is, the list isn't consistent and I've picked those cars for different reasons. There's lots of cars I could think of as being "crap" for one reason or another.....

Good topic....

I think if we get enough replies we can come up with the ultimate top 10.:D

Max_Damage

Mine (in no order):

1. Fiat Ritmo
2. Yugo Koral 55 (so bad it's good!)
3. Austin Allegro
4. Skoda Estelle
5. Opel Corsa (Vauxhall Nova)
6. Toyota Starlet (mid-late 80's models; parents had bad experiences with one many years ago)
7. Alfa Romeo 33
8. Fiat Stilo
9. Lada Riva (so bad it's good also!)
10. Volkswagen Bettle (original)

HungryJoey

I'm suprised to see no Passat's pop up in here :rolleyes: Mabe you forgot ?

Hj

unkel

junkyard wrote:

I think if we get enough replies we can come up with the ultimate top 10.:D

As long as the Metro will end up as the Numero Uno. Most cynically marketed small car ever. It is a miracle that the British mainstream car industry managed to hang in there for another decade or two after the Metro before final curtains

junkyard

HungryJoey wrote:

I'm suprised to see no Passat's pop up in here :rolleyes: Mabe you forgot ?

Hj

They didn't make it that far.:)
Don't worry, VW are already well represented. I just don't want to hurt your feelings.;)

HungryJoey

Hah Good man. Tbh as soon as I seen the thread topic I was like " oh God, Here goes Junkyards rant at Passats " Was rather suprised to not see it in the list though :rolleyes:

*My beloved Passats

Hj

eljono

My top 10 in no particular order and with no offence intended...

1. Fiat Marea
2. 92-98 Opel Astra
3. Volvo 340/360
4. Daewoo Nexia
5. Ssang Yong Musso
6. Mitsubishi Carisma
7. Hyundai Pony
8. Lada Riva
9. Kia (insert any model)
10. Mazda 121 (the bubble car)

maidhc

AlanD wrote:

1. Austin Metro
2. Austin Maestro
3. VW Golf Mk 3
4. Nissan Micra, latest generations
5. Ford Orion Diesel
6. Austin Montego
7. Opel Ascona
8. Fiat Ritmo
9. Ford Mondeo Mk 1
10. Volvo 340

Now now. For a start there are only 9 cars there. The Montego and Maestro were the same car... and neither was as bad as their predecessor, the Austin Maxi.

The Ascona was a pretty good car I would have thought. We owned a few when I was small, all 1.6Ds.

No justification for the Mondeo Mk1! It is a superb car, the floorpan of which is still used in the Mk3. It looked dull, but that is about it.

Apart from stuff made by British Leyland, the Communist states (no one mentioned the trabant!), FIAT in the 80's or Mercedes in the 00's, I would find it hard to call any car "crap"..

Fey!

1 - Fiat Tempra/Tipo
2 - Renault 5
3 - Austin Maestro
4 - Citreon Dyane
5 - Ford Fiesta (late 80's/early 90's)
6 - Opel Corsa (late 80's)
7 - Nissan Micra
8 - Talbot can't-remember-the-rest-of-the-name
9 - Nissan Maxima 2.0 V6
10 - Porsche Cayenne (IMO, f-ugly!)

Have to stand up for the Fiat Marea - we had 2 Weekend (estate) models over 6 years, and never had any bother with them. Also, they have one of the best split rear doors going.

Hippo

eljono wrote:

My top 10 in no particular order and with no offence intended...

1. Fiat Marea
2. 92-98 Opel Astra
3. Volvo 340/360
4. Daewoo Nexia
5. Ssang Yong Musso
6. Mitsubishi Carisma
7. Hyundai Pony
8. Lada Riva
9. Kia (insert any model)
10. Mazda 121 (the bubble car)

No justification for the mazda 121 apart from maybe on aesthetic grounds. Usual unbreakable mazda build quality, you can't seriously have it on a list with a Lada!

BoozyBabe

Here's mine!!!

1. Ford Focus
2. Ford Focus
3. Ford Focus
4. Ford Focus
5. Ford Focus
6. Ford Focus
7. Ford Focus
8. Ford Focus
9. Ford Focus
10. Ford Focus

Despised the fcuking thing!!!!
Given the choice of it & ANY other car in the world ever, I'll probably still choose the 'other' car.

Granted, I probably had a lemon, but it still won't be changing my mind, (just in case...)

(No offence all Focus drivers / fans / worshippers!!)

breanoh

1. Ford Fiesta.
2. Fiat (all)
3. Ford mundano mk1
4. Citroen Saxo
5. Peugeot 106
6. Lada (all)
7. Daihatsu Charade Turbo D. (for head trouble alone!)
8. Alfa Romeo
9. Opel Corsa/Vauxhall Nova (the last 2 generations)
10 Anything with a rover badge/made in england!

I totally disagree with the R5! Brilliant little car, never had a single problem from one, actually, never had a problem with a renault!

crosstownk

Mine - no order.

1. Lada Riva/Samara
2. Austin (any model)
3. Yugo (any model)
4. Hillman Hunter
5. Hyundai Pony
6. Renault 5
7. FS0
8. Fiat Ritmo
9. Renault Laguna II
10. Opel Omega (the last model)

peasant

crap cars that I have actually driven (not necessarily owned) at some stage, in no particular order

Fiat 126
Mercedes A 140
Rover 400
Mitsubishi Carisma, just awful in every way
Ford Orion
VW Passat (1st model)
Opel Kadett C (the last RWD)
BMW 316 (00 model, poverty spec rental, brandnew)
Kia Sedona
Renault Laguna II Auto (how did that win Irish car of the year?)

prospect

junkyard wrote:

I was looking at Amazon.com and I came across a book called Crap cars and it got me thinking, I'd start a thread here on a similar topic. Well here goes, my crap cars top 10;

1. Citroen BX.
2. Austin Allegro.
3. Rover Metro.
4. Renault Laguna( Any).
5. Vw Golf/Bora.
6. Peugeot 307/206.
7. Fiat Punto/Brava/Bravo.
8. Alfa Romeo (Any)
9. Renault Megane.
10. Skoda Felica.

For someone who is heavily involved in the motor industry, you really know feck all.... :rolleyes:

1. Citroen BX. - Why? A fantastically comfortable car, brilliant layout of controls which meant the driver could keep both hands on the wheel most of the time.
2. Austin Allegro. - I dunno much about these
3. Rover Metro. - ditto
4. Renault Laguna( Any). - Why? You heard of one give some trouble, hence it is now the 4th worst car EVER built. How about the fact it is one of the first family cars to score a full 5 stars in the NCAPs?
5. Vw Golf/Bora. - Oh yeah, terrible hence the reason the golf is one of the all time best sellers....
6. Peugeot 307/206. Ditto the 206, but you probably heard a rumour of one having a dodgy electric window
7. Fiat Punto/Brava/Bravo. Millions of puntos sold, but obviously EVERY ONE was crap so millions of people must love having crap cars....
8. Alfa Romeo (Any) - Swweping statment, see my sweeping statment below.
9. Renault Megane. - Another car that is ground breaking in active & passive safety.
10. Skoda Felica. - Why, it is a basic, reliable car for a budget buyer. Probably has more standard features than your entrly level 5 series BMW.

Here is my list.
1 -> 10
BMW, All models produced from 1990 onwards. - Overpriced, and not worth it. Bland, underspecced in every department, and these days, UGLY. Not bullet-proof reliable, and common as muck. Only bought as some sort of pathetic attempt at a statment of status. Really means you don't really know alot about motoring but like to think you do.

Everyone is laughing at you......

AlanD

Ouch!!!:eek:

Take it easy there....given how the criteria for a crap car is very subjective, we'll all have very different lists for very different reasons. It's all down to perspective.

Folks in the motor industry and more so in the motor repair industry do see more of the bad in cars than others not in the industry. But if you don't have that perspective, then you won't agree which is ok.

prospect

AlanD wrote:

Ouch!!!:eek:

Take it easy there....

Yeah, sorry, you are probably right.
I just hate idiotic generalisations.

LikeOhMyGawd!

prospect wrote:

I just hate idiotic generalisations.

prospect wrote:

Only bought as some sort of pathetic attempt at a statment of status. Really means you don't really know alot about motoring but like to think you do.

That's quite a gerenalisation there - Although I do find myself in agreement with the sentiment

prospect

LikeOhMyGawd! wrote:

That's quite a gerenalisation there - Although I do find myself in agreement with the sentiment

That whole BMW bit was 'Tounge-in-cheek ' to illustrate my point.

smash

what a load of sh1t, that list is rubbish

maidhc

steve06 wrote:

what a load of sh1t, that list is rubbish

Indeed, it is crap!

dave2pvd

maidhc wrote:

Indeed, it is crap!

U'r all thinking waay too 'inside the box'. What about all the dreadful US cars built thru the generations?

ds20prefecture

My list of cars that are crap because they are overhyped, overbought and represent that nadir of car design - the marketing department.

Audi A3
BMW 1 series
BMW Z3
BMW X5
BMW X3
VW Golf GTi (Mks III & IV)
Renault Laguna ("Ooooh, it's so safe!" - no, it isn't)
Nissan X Trail (An almera estate on stilts for 40k)
Toyota Eventless (They never break! My arse they don't)
Hyundai Sante fe - proof that bigger is NOT better.

Sonnenblumen

Lots of expert speak here - but how much experience? More like a crap Motor Forum, cluttering rubbish.

Bangers United v Green Prejudice, who wins, who cares............

mike65

Ford Escort mk3 esp versions with the CVH engine
Chrysler Neon
Austin Rover Metro
Fiat 600 (Bambino)
Fiat Strada/Ritmo
Renault Fuego
Ford Pinto
BMW 5 series (current model) - for looks alone.
AMC Pacer
Toyota Cressida (how not to build a copy-cat Yank Tank)

Richard hammonds Worst 5 ever video

Mike.

overdriver

Ok, bound to cause trouble, but here goes:

1. Fiat Punto - rotten switchgear, cheap plasticky interior, not reliable. They sold millions cos they were cheap. And nasty.

2. The new Megane - yuck. Father-in law had to bring his back a heap of times.

3. Ford Mondeo - mundane, unreliable ( friend has had his '03 back 41 times since he bought it new.)

4. BMW 3 series - Head gaskets and posing, anyone? The ultimate celtic tiger mobile. Chavtastic. It's a way of saying you haven't quite made it but you want people to think you have. Worse still if it's diesel.

5. BMW X-5. Hideous yoke. Designed by someone on drugs. For the female version of the above.

6. Hyundai santa Fe - "Status"...Lidl style.

7. Ford Ka. A girly first car. Except it's 1.3 and has no room in the back for kids. Even small ones. Makes me want to reach for the matches every time I see one. Also an unreliable heap of dirt.

8. Citroen C2. Awful awful looking thing.

9. The new Micra. Again designed by someone out of it on drugs. An ugly, frog-eyed martian of a thing. And unimproved vastly from the previous one.

10. Daewoo Kalos. My eyes are burning!!!

junkyard

prospect wrote:

For someone who is heavily involved in the motor industry, you really know feck all.... :rolleyes:


Everyone is laughing at you......

Well for someone who knows "feck all about cars" I make quite a good living out of them funnily enough and I couldn't care less what people thought about me, especially you prospect. Your not in school now so your bullying days are over.:D

coolmoose

what about the ford scorpio? i remember hearing some stories about them, never drove though so i don't know!

and that fiat multipla - hideous car!

junkyard

I know the multiplas styling isn't to everyones taste but I'd have to say its probably one of the best Fiats ever made, I haven't heard of one problem with them and the people I know who have them love them and don't want to sell them.