Experiences/advice with Airsoft retailers.

Puding

ye i was worried about customs.. wats the worst thing that could happen?

well the worst thing that can happen is that they take it for testing its found to be over and destroyed

what make mp5 did you get?

leprechaun47

Puding wrote: »

well the worst thing that can happen is that they take it for testing its found to be over and destroyed

what make mp5 did you get?

the jing gong mp5 j

RC car fanatic

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Puding

is this your tracking number? 229488537

Reference PRODUCE W14 PK3
Pick Up Date 22/05/2008
Delivery Service EXPRESS
Destination DERBY
Delivery Date 23/05/2008 at 11:12
Items Delivered 1
Items Left At GOODS INWARD
Signatory heagu
Date Time Location Status
23/05/2008 11:12 DERBY Delivered
23/05/2008 06:39 NOTTINGHAM Out for delivery
23/05/2008 02:20 NOTTINGHAM At delivery depot

what retailer was it from? i say they have just given you teh wrong tracking number

RC car fanatic

Its from redwolf,I have the correct tracking number and the quote of the tracking info above was completely different to mine.

nutzbutz

leprechaun47 wrote: »

the jing gong mp5 j

just looking at the specs for this on gunner airsoft and its power is 350fps with 0.2g BB which is over 1j,unless you got a downgrade it will probably be seized and destroyed!!

zero19

Eirsoft.ie leading the way again it seems, fair play shiva!

leprechaun47

nutzbutz wrote: »

just looking at the specs for this on gunner airsoft and its power is 350fps with 0.2g BB which is over 1j,unless you got a downgrade it will probably be seized and destroyed!!

it shoots at about 330fps.. has anyone recently ordered from rsov?

Puding

it shoots at about 330fps.

where did you get that info from?

leprechaun47

Puding wrote: »

where did you get that info from?

i saw a vid of one being chrono'd.. it was the echo 1. im not 100 percent....
im just wondering if anyone has ordered recently.. ye're gettin me worried now

Puding

the echo one is a re branded version normally they will change improve the internals its possible that the echo 1 was firing stock at that power, unfortunately the JG is a different beast, the problem with clones is the inconsistency,

leprechaun47

so what happens if my delivery doesnt come? do i get refunded or what?

Shiva

leprechaun47 wrote: »

so what happens if my delivery doesnt come? do i get refunded or what?

As Puding mentioned, Echo 1 are a clone re-brand company, like Cybergun. Part of their rebranding process is to change out the original Jing Gong spring, which is normally shooting between 350 and 380 FPS, and replace it with a less powerful one to bring it in under 1 joule.

There's no compensation for the loss of your goods if its seized by customs and destroyed.

leprechaun47

Shiva wrote: »

As Puding mentioned, Echo 1 are a clone re-brand company, like Cybergun. Part of their rebranding process is to change out the original Jing Gong spring, which is normally shooting between 350 and 380 FPS, and replace it with a less powerful one to bring it in under 1 joule.

There's no compensation for the loss of your goods if its seized by customs and destroyed.

so at what fps is it considered illegal?

Puding

1joule - under 328 with .2g bbs

leprechaun47

Puding wrote: »

1joule - under 328 with .2g bbs

ok, and does anyone know wat the jg mp5j's fps is

Shiva

leprechaun47 wrote: »

so at what fps is it considered illegal?

The law doesnt actually state a "Feet Per Second" rate - instead it puts the limit at 1 joule of energy.

The FPS rate you hear being quoted as the legal limit is 328 - this comes about because a .2g BB fired at 1 joule will have a muzzle velocity of 328 feet per second. This number is the most often quoted because .2g BBs are the most commonly used in airsoft.

However, the FPS of a gun will decrease if a heavy BB is used (.23g, .25g etc, etc), but the energy will remain constant.

So...to answer your question...if a BB of .2g in weight is used to test it, and the muzzle velocity is over 328 feet per second, its illegal. Now, due to the nature of the airsoft devices, and the local conditions when the test is conducted, there is a probability that there will be an allowance made for something slightly over the limit. But that probability has never been confirmed, and never will be, so we all just aim to get them under 328 fps.

Shiva

leprechaun47 wrote: »

ok, and does anyone know wat the jg mp5j's fps is

Anything from 340 fps to 380 fps - they're quite inconsistent.

leprechaun47

Shiva wrote: »

Anything from 340 fps to 380 fps - they're quite inconsistent.

and will customs defenetly inspect it ye?

Puding

leprechaun47 wrote: »

and will customs defenetly inspect it ye?

hit and miss, customs are very active at the moment

leprechaun47

Puding wrote: »

hit and miss, customs are very active at the moment

k, thanks for ye're help.. ill keep ye posted on wat happens

Stercus Accidit

Is it normal to receive a bill from fed-ex a month AFTER they deliver an item, when you payed postage etc. in advance?

Got a delivery from the US and a month later, this frickin invoice comes for 50 euro.

plastic_axe

I believe customs gotcha.

o1s1n

Motosam wrote: »

Is it normal to receive a bill from fed-ex a month AFTER they deliver an item, when you payed postage etc. in advance?

Got a delivery from the US and a month later, this frickin invoice comes for 50 euro.

Happened to me in back in 06 about a month after I received my first rifle.

Was from the U.S too.

Stercus Accidit

How irritating.

And they do a nice administration charge too, lovely.

Masada

yeah fedex do that a lot, its to speed up the delivery time.,

Puding

Is it normal to receive a bill from fed-ex a month AFTER they deliver an item, when you payed postage etc. in advance?

Got a delivery from the US and a month later, this frickin invoice comes for 50 euro.

yep its there normal standard operation procedure had it a number of its unfortunately lovely how they enter you into a credit agreement without you even knowing :mad:

cpb

Received mags and battery from ebaybanned yesterday ordered them 3 weeks ago another successful order from them highly recommend that seller if you don't mind a small wait.

As for RSOV will never buy from them again, their after sales service is terrible 2 problems with them, a cracked inner barrel and a package that has disappeared when it left Hong Kong in April and basically they don't want to know.I have sent numerous emails I have filled in a form with an post stating I did not receive the package all to no avail their response is that they are waiting to hear back from hong Kong post this is 4.5 months later.

Chatted with a few lads with at G TAc on Sunday and they also have complaints about Rsov after sales service. My opinion is to stay well away from them.

SniperSight

I'd just like to recommend WGC. Bought some equipment there recently: scopes, mags, rails etc.. (which I was worried about given recent tales of customs), but anyway, I ordered last Friday, goods were processed and sent on Saturday, and Monday evening I was greeted by the lovely sight of my sights and gear.
4 days from processing to delivery!!!

Also I asked them to include a document stating they were airsoft toys ONLY, and of course the duly obliged.
(I dont know if that got it through customs swiftly or not, but it cant have hurted.)

I highly recommend them as this isnt the only delivery I've gotten in less than 5 days.
They are very helpful and their replys are consistent.ie. You always get either your quote or help the day after you message them.

P.S. I'd also like to say UPS were quite good also. I've had problems with them before but recently the've been nothing but great.

babyjames

leprechaun47 wrote: »

it shoots at about 330fps.. has anyone recently ordered from rsov?

Leprechaun I have ordered a few aeg's from Rsov. and found that they are likley to fire 20 to 30 fps below what is stated on the web site. But I suppose that could go the other way also.:eek: I think you are better off looking an gunnerair were they will downgrade the Aeg for you. That way you are not running the risk of it being siezed and destroyed.

Rgds

cpb

Great service from Paul in corkairsoft shop ordered on Tuesday and package waiting on my desk this morning. Thanks again.:D

OzCam

Shiva wrote: »

The law doesnt actually state a "Feet Per Second" rate - instead it puts the limit at 1 joule of energy.

The FPS rate you hear being quoted as the legal limit is 328...

Shiva is bang-on, as usual, but 100 metres per second is much easier to remember (and much easier to calculate)

Energy = 1/2 the mass in kg x (velocity in m/s squared)

0.0002kg/2 =.0001
x100
x100 = 1

What are these "feet" of which you speak?

plastic_axe

0.002kg/2 =.001

sorry to be pedantic

deepimpact

plastic_axe wrote: »

0.002kg/2 =.001

sorry to be pedantic

You might want to recheck that bb weight

plastic_axe

i r win @ maths.
disregard.

deepimpact

plastic_axe wrote: »

i r win @ maths.
disregard.

Don't worry, I had to recheck it myself. It happens

OzCam

scanlant wrote: »

Don't worry, I had to recheck it myself. It happens

That's why I had to check the frelling thing about 18 times before I posted it.

deepimpact

does anyone know how reliable wgcshop are with downgrading aegs? I want to be as sure as I can before ordering.

Puding

the 4 aegs i;ve had downgraded by them have all been fine

deepimpact

Puding wrote: »

the 4 aegs i;ve had downgraded by them have all been fine

great, just wanted to make sure. Thanks Puding

Nodin

As of this morning, virtually all of eHobby-Asia's stock seems to have been taken off e-bay.
http://stores.ebay.com/eHobby-Asia-Airsoft-Supplier

Whether this is due to a glitch, or the new pricing structures announced, I've no idea. Hopefully they'll set up again somewhere, as they were reliable, and the postage was cheap in the bargain.

Shiva

Nodin wrote: »

As of this morning, virtually all of eHobby-Asia's stock seems to have been taken off e-bay.
http://stores.ebay.com/eHobby-Asia-Airsoft-Supplier

Whether this is due to a glitch, or the new pricing structures announced, I've no idea. Hopefully they'll set up again somewhere, as they were reliable, and the postage was cheap in the bargain.

They're moving to a new, non-ebay site.

I was looking at their pre-launch site this morning and last night, and it looks excellent. The prices seem to be slightly lower, and you have the ability to get a shipping estimate before you buy. It also looks like it'll combine shipping too.

The test address they were using is http://www.shop.ehobbyasia.com/ - its only working sporadically though.

o1s1n

They still owe me €45 for a scope rail that never arrived Five months now and nothing.

Always found them reliable until I ran into this hitch. Fairly terrible customer service so far. Just keep repeating that they can't issue a refund till the trace completes. They also failed to mention that the post office hadn't contacted them since the 23rd of July.

...

Think I'll be ringing the credit card company in the morning. Although I may have left it too long.

Nodin

Shiva wrote: »

They're moving to a new, non-ebay site.

I was looking at their pre-launch site this morning and last night, and it looks excellent. The prices seem to be slightly lower, and you have the ability to get a shipping estimate before you buy. It also looks like it'll combine shipping too.

The test address they were using is http://www.shop.ehobbyasia.com/ - its only working sporadically though.

Ty Sir.

Irishmaster

They always had next day delivery as i always receive my orders the next day but what do they mean by this?
New shipping method! Who would have thought we could get any quicker with our deliverys, but from 5/9/08 onwards, all items are now shipped via An Post Next Day Express Post! With no price increase!

bullets

You get your orders the day before you order........
...:D


Putting the Words "An Post" together with "Next Day Delivery"
Is an Oxymoron.

~B

cpb

Another order from ebaybanned successfully completed although a bit slow.

On the other hand Corkairsoft shop very quick in getting a few parts out to me excellent service lads. Thanks:D

k99_64

bullets wrote: »

You get your orders the day before you order........
...:D


Putting the Words "An Post" together with "Next Day Delivery"
Is an Oxymoron.

~B

Always been next day delivery with me.

Chuck the Buck

bullets wrote: »

You get your orders the day before you order........
...:D


Putting the Words "An Post" together with "Next Day Delivery"
Is an Oxymoron.

~B

Letter post is questionable - you could call it next week delivery sometimes.
Parcel post (or anything else tracked from my experience), what most airsoft stuff would be sent by, in general IS next day delivery. Give An Post their dues, they do do a good job most of the time.

Anyway my postman is a PIRATE!!!!! Well he has got an earring!

Fallschirmjager

i contacted ehobby for the price as the quote on the website seemed low so i emailed them. the seemed to think they could use the normal post and as we all know thats a an area prone to problems.

did anyone get any other postal options??