Ouija Boards (megathread)

6th

I'm not saying that but coming in here quoting a show that is insulting people who believe in the paranormal and referring to their beliefs as b*llsh*t and calling them nutjobs is against the charter and could be seen as trolling.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

alright then, I'm not going to convince you and you're not going to convince me. enjoy your forum

monkeyfudge

Well they don't really disprove the spirit board at all.

As it is likely that if the spirit needs to use a humans hands to spell out the letters, it also needs to make use of a humans eyes and other senses to make things work.

Of course it's far more probable that the board is being controlled either conciously or unconciously by a human. But the probablity does exist that a spirit is making use of the human senses to convey a message. Personally I wouldn't jump to such a far fetched conclusion though.

scorptech

Hi, I've been reading this thread with interest and would like to add my experiences.

As a spiritualist medium who has used a spirit board (we call them this instead of ouija boards as we use them in love & light and also surround ourselves with protection), spirit does come through but you have to understand how they work.

When you start to use a board, the energy of the people using it and the spirit energy has to development over time. The difference between a group of people doing for the first time and an established spiritual group is energy and speed.

I have notice this when using the board for the first time with mediums who never tried it before. The energy was weak and slow. When I used it in my regular spiritual circle, the glass moved faster and had much more energy.

You can and do get spirits who will try and play around, but these tend to be harmless. Negative spirits are keep out as the group all know about how to protect themselves spiritually and we say a few words to make sure that only positive spirits come to the board. This is something you would learn if you joined a spiritual development circle. Here are the four guidelines that you must use when using a board:-

I - Identify (Identify who the spirit is)
C - Certify (Certify that it is that person by asking them a question they would only know)
R - Reason (Do they have a message to pass on?)
T - Terminate (No more messages, thank them and say goodbye)

There are people who will still say they we are moving the glass, all I would say to them is, join a proper spiritual circle where nobody has anything to gain by doing something as stupid as this and see for yourself.


Regards

Zillah

scorptech wrote:

There are people who will still say they we are moving the glass, all I would say to them is, join a proper spiritual circle where nobody has anything to gain by doing something as stupid as this and see for yourself.

The usual angle people take with the "they're doing it themselves" point is that they are doing it subconciously. It was mentioned earlier (I think); the ideomotor effect.

And they have lots to gain from moving the glass. A cohesive spiritualist circle, for one. Wouldn't be much of a ouija session if nothing happened.

scorptech

You are obviously speaking from a vast amount of experience working in development circles and using spirit boards or are you just quoting from a text book?

When you understand and have been involved in a proper spiritual circle, come back to me with that experience and then you will have some experience that you can talk about.

There are bad apples in every cart so this might, and could happen with some people, but you can not say that this applies everytime a development circle uses a spirit board. That would be just pure ignorance.

imprezza

Zillah wrote:

The usual angle people take with the "they're doing it themselves" point is that they are doing it subconciously. It was mentioned earlier (I think); the ideomotor effect.

And they have lots to gain from moving the glass. A cohesive spiritualist circle, for one. Wouldn't be much of a ouija session if nothing happened.

From my experience I agree with Zillah, although because I believe in Spirits I'm sure they'd come through on rare occasions using a ouija board. what you call it doesnt matter, and I really can't see what difference it would make trying to get a spirit to prove who they are unless your trying to contact a specific person. We all have different theories and approaches, but eaveryones different I don't believe anyone whose nervous should play around with them.

RandolphEsq

As a sceptic and ignoramus on the subject of the paranormal, I wonder what the difference is between humans and animals? Surely if humans have spirits, so do animals? Therefore it should be possible to contact animals as well.....
Also,as I generally need to see something to believe it (although I do find it easy to trust people), I am thinking of giving the Ouija game a go. Is there anyone here who can talk about what it was like using the game? Im thinking the whole point of making the atmosphere all creepy and hyping up the Ouija game is to then make people paranoid so they hallucinate or become dillusional....? Enlighten me

kshiel

BrightEyes wrote:

As a sceptic and ignoramus on the subject of the paranormal, I wonder what the difference is between humans and animals? Surely if humans have spirits, so do animals? Therefore it should be possible to contact animals as well.....
Also,as I generally need to see something to believe it (although I do find it easy to trust people), I am thinking of giving the Ouija game a go. Is there anyone here who can talk about what it was like using the game? Im thinking the whole point of making the atmosphere all creepy and hyping up the Ouija game is to then make people paranoid so they hallucinate or become dillusional....? Enlighten me

Hi BrightEyes, I think if you read back over the thread you may gain some insight to what people who have posted in the thread think of the board and some experiences in using them. There is a lot of information on both sides of the arguement and would be worth a read before you decide to use one or not.

karynp

New_Departure06 wrote:

An Irish witch friend online has just given me some instructions on a safer use of a ouija board. She advises I don't use a board, but states that if I must, then:

A: Make your own ouija board on an A4 sheet of paper.
B: Draw the letters around in a circle. Write Yes and No inside the circle with Goodbye below them.
C: Have 4-6 candles and place them in the 4 corners of the room.
Remove the mirrors from the room and cover them in black cloth as they could be entry points for demons.
E: Have more than one person taking part, with the finger on the pointer at one time.
F: Place the tumbler (used as a pointer) in the center of the board.
G: Wear a blessed cross which has been blessed beforehand by dipping into holy water and saying a prayer for protection.
H: Place an item dear to the person you wish to contact in the middle of the board. Ask to speak to a particular person you used to know.
I: When finished and removing the tumbler, make sure to slide it onto a smooth surface like a coffee table. Don't simply lift it off the board.

OK, I am going to throw in my humble opinion, stating it is ONLY MY HUMBLE OPINION.
I would immediatley pick holes in the above statement, as a spiritualist myself, the |FIRST thing i do before undertaking ANY kind of spiritual/psychic work is to call in whoever/whatever i work with to surround myself with light and protection, then i make a CLEAR statement that i will not accept/allow ANY lower vibrations or spirits near me,i am firm in my dealings and trust myself enough to pull back if it gets too heavy. The thing with ouija boards or ANY kind of alphabet/number charts is they attract lower entities whether you like it or not,again,most people are untrained in this field and see them as games or acts of bravery in front of friends,they have been commercialised and exploited in films and made into hollywood crap. Using a pendulum on an alphabet chart is somewhat like using a ouija board, spirits just pop in and you canot be sure who/what you are dealing with.
I personally dont think anyone can say whether they are safe or not, as it is with intention that people use them, we all understand the laws of attraction,what you think , you eventually attract,and agin, as with all psychic work there is always going to be a lower element involved but it is HOW you practice your work and HOW you deal with what comes up, HOW you close it all off that matters, again, i couldnt be bothered using a ouija board as i have better ways of contacting spirit world, which in my opinion are safer for me as I, through practice and expereince, have come to understand how it all works.
This topic will always cause people to argue back and forth and put out strong opinions, but at the end of the day, we all have freewill to do as we choose so if you decide you want to use a board then make sure you do it safely.
Again,this is just MY opinion, not gospel.

Oryx

BrightEyes wrote:

As a sceptic and ignoramus on the subject of the paranormal, I wonder what the difference is between humans and animals? Surely if humans have spirits, so do animals? Therefore it should be possible to contact animals as well.....
Also,as I generally need to see something to believe it (although I do find it easy to trust people), I am thinking of giving the Ouija game a go. Is there anyone here who can talk about what it was like using the game? Im thinking the whole point of making the atmosphere all creepy and hyping up the Ouija game is to then make people paranoid so they hallucinate or become dillusional....? Enlighten me

Re: animals... they can make their presence felt, but you cant talk to live animals so it follows you cant talk to dead ones, via ouija or otherwise.

I havent read thru this thread for ages, but Im sure as has been said you will find the info you need if you go back along it. As for the creepiness, if youre doing it as a joke or messing sure, but as a serious attempt, Id be avoiding a spooky set up at all costs so your not paranoid or suggestible.

6th

KatieK wrote:

Re: animals... they can make their presence felt, but you cant talk to live animals so it follows you cant talk to dead ones, via ouija or otherwise.

I'd love to hear from tj-music.com on that subject so I might just mail him a link to this post.

KatieK wrote:

as a serious attempt, Id be avoiding a spooky set up at all costs so your not paranoid or suggestible.

Would be interesting to see the results of several sittings by the same group of people at several locations both spooky and controlled.

Oryx

Not meaning to drag ot, but who or what is tjmusic?

6th

Its Thomas Yanek, tj-music.com is his user name here. He's a reiki master, pet psychologist, radio present, animal healer and all round nice guy. A few people from here have met him on Investigations and he always has something interesting to say about animals (dogs mostly).

Oryx

Ah... met him briefly once. Did wonder as I was posting how the animal communication thing works for others, but all I can speak from is my own experience of it. Its worth starting another thread on or it will take this completely off topic.:)

imprezza

I had a few pets that were very psychic when they were alive, I was able to read their minds and they could read mine for sure. Imo most of our communications with people in the spirit world are telepathic, therefore we can communicate with spirit animals as well if you know what I mean. I had a few experiences with my lost pets, especially 3 cats who at different times in my life were my familiars.

nitefox

Hi 6th and mysteria how are ye and everybody else?. Mysteria the thing is anyway teenagers and as you say the rest are people who genuinely want to contact a loved one, so they are vulnerable, going through the bereavement process that is partially ture but the real reason people go and use the ouija boards is to contact ghosts and experience the paranormal, next thing you said to 6th is was useing the ouija boaed since 6th was 5 years old i have been reading all the post's on this form and 6th never used the ouija board. good one 6th for puting that link to that part of the board, There is a thread here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054878476
so mysteria hear you talking about some research and i'd like to see this findings in Germanys' top University it is now gaining wider acceptance and recognition" and also the statistics which you mention above?, but why is it not on that board that's all about research and the findings?. So as you mysteria saying 6th was on ouija board since 6th was 5, 6th said just had experiences with spirits since 6th was 5. I have experiences with spirits since I was 13 and all those experiences are for another topics that are in these forms. Last thing from me is that i would like to do the ouija board and get talking to ghosts and just get the peranormal experience and i have heard storys from my mates that done the ouija board that where good and some that where not good so it is really learning thing one time it can go well and the next time it can go really wrong so you learn from that, and i will highlight this that when you use the ouija board you have to be in the right sate of mind to do it and how to deal with it if it goes wrong and if you just going to do it for the wrong reasons then you will get evil ghosts ok.;)

nitefox

Sapien wrote:

I can't think of many situations in which it makes sense to use a Ouija Board. If one can think of no more reliable and effective method for stirring up some spiritual activity, one probably isn't in a position to deal with the results, whatever they may be. The exceptions, of course, are those who have spent a lot of time using Ouija Boards, and have developed skill and experience - but once again that seems to me like misplaced effort. There are much better ways to contact spirits, especially if one is prepared to practice.

The Ouija Board (TM) is an auto-séance, which is to say, a séance sans medium. It was invented in the 1890s towards the end of a popular Spiritism craze. It was an ingenious idea. Séances were expensive and difficult to organise, and good mediums were few and far between. Demand greatly outstripped the supply. The Ouija Board was a way to bring quick-fix séances into the living rooms of ordinary people with negligible fuss or scandal, and for a reasonable one-time payment. The trouble is, they work.

In a séance the medium, if genuine, uses the heightened state of mind of the attendants to attract and draw out spirits. The medium's jobs are: 1) to manage the atmosphere of the sitting and direct the psychological state of the attendants; and 2) to receive messages in a coherent, comprehensible way. By this method a specific entity, or type of entity can be contacted, and its responses channelled through the medium. But the attendants themselves provide the "power", for want of a better word, which allows the contact to be made. When one removes the medium, as with a Ouija working, the medium's jobs are not done: 1) the atmosphere is uncontrolled and can become sinister and fearful; and 2) the means of communication for the spirit is largely up to the spirit's own determination.

With mediumship the aim, in most cases, is to contact deceased relatives. To this end the medium will engender an atmosphere of calm and warmth, love and recollection, and deep focus on the sought-after individuals. Very little can arise from this kind of collective mental state other than that which is intended. In a Ouija sitting there is rarely anyone who knows to, or is capable of manipulating the atmosphere. Inevitably people are afraid, excited, aroused and giddy. Inevitably the mental state is fuelled by adrenaline, hormones and cold sweat. This is the stuff of an altogether different type of contact.

Without the guiding influence of a medium, or one capable of controlling the spiritual environment, like an adept, the energy generated attracts anything that happens to be in proximity. Because of the nature of the ritual - frivolous and flippant as it so often is - the entities attracted will never be important, powerful or well-formed. You will not find an archangel, a god or even a famous demon paying attention to a Ouija sitting. Rather, random astral detritus will gravitate, subconscious complexes will be drawn forth - the kind of spiritual muck that one banishes at the beginning of every magickal working. And these things can be dangerous.

I am not one of those who say in doom-laden tones - Leave what you do not understand be! I understand all too well the attraction of such supernatural quick-fixes, the allure of tangible proof of the otherworldly that is so easily obtainable. In some senses I think people should investigate these avenues. But there are dangers inherent in the process, and someone with experience (though not necessarily an expert) should be present. That is to say someone with favourable experience - who is sufficiently confident to prevent the group from becoming hysterical and whipping up an unmanageable astral maelstrom.

In conclusion, I advise that people take the Ouija Board, as silly, inelegant and crass as it is, seriously. Under no circumstances should people undertake one to scare themselves, or as a kind of spiritual danger sport. If people are doing one for the first time, they should go about it seriously, slowly, cautiously and calmly. If an experienced person is unavailable, one of the participants should pick up some basic skills in banishing - the kind that can be found in the opening chapters in any widely available magickal syllabus text. And if things go wrong, don't bother with priests. Find a witch or a magickian.

Hi Sapien how are you and everybody?. I have to say i dont argee what you are saying i think at the end of the day if you want to do the Ouija Board people will do it i tihnk it is good because you can talk to the spirits etc will get good and bad ones so do argee you have know what to do if something goes wrong as i said before it is a learning pross.

I would like to do the Ouija Board because i never did it so it would good if other people might be interest and it's ok if ye are not, just get feel of that exp with spirts and the my joury of the paranormal.

Last thing priests do have the power to get with of spirits throw god but at the end of the day it is up to the people they belife like you witch or magickian etc like belife in what i said about the priests. also if anybody has done just reclitly how was it and what did the spirts say?.:D

Bottle_of_Smoke

Really just think they work because the mind is so good at convincing itself illusions are real. Supposedly it doesn't work when people are blindfolded.

Also there's this

Rossibaby

was studying religion last year,my teacher said when he was young his friends all used a ouija board.out of a class of 14 of childhood pals from the town about 7 are dead [including suicides],couple are alcoholics and most are on the dole living ****ty lives.my teacher is about 34/35 so these guys arent that old either.he said whenever he asks them about the ouija board ALL of them only give the same responce ''it never left us''.he doesnt know what they meant as they dont want to elaborate.he warned us never ever to get involved with one.

another experience of ouija stories is the neighbours up the road from me,my mother told me they used a ouija board at a party one night.just out of curiosity.but when it actually worked and started giving bad vibes they totally freaked out and threw it in the bin before it got any further.still though i wouldnt mind trying it before i die and seeing what these people saw and felt

Dave!

Sounds like your teacher has a bit of an agenda and was trying to scare you with that story about the 14 childhood pals.......

Stoner

when i was a little stoner my oldest sister told me a story about how some other little dude has his willy cut off in the public toilets on O'Connell Street Dublin, didn't sleep much that night.

I've never been in those toilets or any other public toilets, some stories work.

6th

The only way anyone will ever know is to try themselves .. if you dont want to know dont try it. Simple as.

nitefox

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote:

Really just think they work because the mind is so good at convincing itself illusions are real. Supposedly it doesn't work when people are blindfolded.

Also there's this

Hi Bottle_of_smoke how are you and everybody?. Look evrybody has there view on it so i never done it so dont know if it works or not but there is after life and people from diffend faiths and cultures belife in some type of after life so these spirths etc as said in other posts i bit pscy so do hear spirths or in lay mans term dead people they talk to me or tell me things and messages know i have not master the gift and i am not that good but i am learing everyday and my family dont go into all this because there faith so that first part of my post is ture.

So i have never heard of anybody doing the ouija board blindfolded
and makes no cents because you have to see the board but for pscy the got be able to that because the pointer would going off the board etc but would be still able to tell a person wirte down the measages because they are pscy and spirths would be telling them the messages. 2nd last thing priests do have the power to get with of spirits throw god but at the end of the day it is up to the people they belife in like some people belife witch or magickian can get with of spirths etc and like peolpe belife in what i said about the priests been able to get with of spirths so it is up to the people belife in. Last thing and know it is bit of the topic but when i was last on here i did a online reading for person it was my very frist reading and i have to say it went alright so told that person there love life that was the question but i did not know the person at all never talk to them so i did not know there life i was tell that person they had only one bro and no sis's and i spoke to there garma she just said tell this ma to that person and person said that's garma so grama told me meassage and was that person and that person understode what is about i just say say i am not faker ok i know reading was ok but it got been better but i am only learning ok but point getin and on this topic you can use the ouija board get intouch with dead family friends and even bf and gf etc so that has help people how it is real not just illusions.:D

Poltergoose

Stoner wrote:

when i was a little stoner my oldest sister told me a story about how some other little dude has his willy cut off in the public toilets on O'Connell Street Dublin, didn't sleep much that night.

I've never been in those toilets or any other public toilets, some stories work.

I heard this story too.Maybe it really happened.Dont go to public toilets either but thats mostly because I dont like standing or sitting on other people urine and not because of some phantom willy chopper.

So if ouija boards are no-go ,does anybody know of other safer ways to get spirits to interact?

quoteunquote

Two words: hallucinatory drugs.

Or alternatively (and legally) you could get one of those dowsing crystals. I hear that spirits can be contacted safely through them. Although I couldnt see why if we turn into sentient intelligent "spirit" beings after death we'd want to stay in contact with our old meatbag companions. Just a thought...

Nevyn

Define safely,
what is a dowsing crystals ?
And why is that a safer medium ?

dubtom

Have to admit when I started to read this thread I was tempted to go to page twelve to see what happened, I'm glad I perseverred. Being sceptical about the paranormal in general I would be more inclined to believe that the negative experience of some using an Ouija board is more down to a suseptical or fragile state of mind rather than an actual spirit coming through. In saying that, I personally wouldn't use one, in fact wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. I now that sounds rather strange coming from a sceptic but I would lean towards believing the negative where the board is concerned and probably approach it with a fairly closed mind, or rather, only open to something negative happening ,if that makes sense. I would probably be one of those who ends up in the looney bin in other words:rolleyes: In saying that I would be very interested in hearing an update from the poster 'UPTHERE' who had a positive experience using it, is the posters experience still postive? Someone mentioned earlier about how it's possible to become addicted to the board and use it for answers to everything, which I could understand if the first or second use of it were a positive experience. I'm not saying that 'UPTHERE' is included in that analogy, I'd just be interested to hear about his use of it seeing as his was I think one of the only positive examples given.
Finally, does anyone else have the same trouble as me pronouncing Ouija as weeja, I read it as owja, ridiculous I know.:rolleyes:

smirkingmaurice

Myself and 3 friends decided to do the ouija board 10 years ago roughly and let me tell you it was fairly good crack until one of the lads, i'll call him james, went a bit haywire. We crept into an old house one night and by candle light we started asking some spirits if they would like to appear, the usual pushing (at least i think it was pushing on our behalf) started, with the upturned glass sliding around like it was a sled on ice. Nothing peculiar happened after the first hour, and a lot of the spelling was totally ridiculous leading me to believe that the 3 buddies were definitely behind the movements as all 3 couldn't spell to save their lives. We took a break anyway and then james piped up "lets ask elvis to appear". The usual rubbish celebrity request, but we went along with it anyway. The glass started its usual woeful attempts at spelling but then james got up and walked away without saying a word. He blanked all of us ever since and some of the lads reckon the board might have caused it. Who knows??

KIVES

My Aunt found a ouija board we'd been messing around with years ago at the back of my cousins house in the country - she said they were 'the devils playthings' - three years ago she had an affair with the local mechanic and wait for this, she blamed touchin the fcukin board...I won't repeat what my Uncle Terrance said...anyways,nothing came of our excitable fumblings that summer - only one of my mates failed his Leaving.but like I said,that was on the cards...