ALDI Ripoff

TBMC

I think Gunthers Point is that certain companies look at the Irish Market and see a people who are quite happy to pay a little bit extra for the same thing. I think he welcomes the likes of Lidl and Aldi, as I do, and the prices they have brought. But I would like them to be cheaper if they could be. I think a dangerous message is being sent here to thse companies, that yes it is right to charge extra in Ireland because market forces will allow for it. Some people are too interested in getting in to word play. They just want to preach. Gunther tried to start a discussion on the topic. Thats all. On the subject of word play(:)) I would have thought that selling a tevion as a Sony wasn't a rip off. I would have though it was Fraud.

Cheers

pH

TBMC wrote:

I think a dangerous message is being sent here to thse companies, that yes it is right to charge extra in Ireland because market forces will allow for it.

Well if you think that it's a 'dangerous message' then I seriously suggest you are in need of a basic education in economics. The basic foundation of a free market and capitalism is that you charge what the market will allow. You may believe that want to live in some sort of socialist utopia, but I suspect you just want things your way.

If you consider capitalism/free markets to be a 'dangerous message' then I'd love to hear your alternative. Some sort of global socialist fixed pricing?

Gunther_Gloop

pH wrote:

Well if you think that it's a 'dangerous message' then I seriously suggest you are in need of a basic education in economics. The basic foundation of a free market and capitalism is that you charge what the market will allow. You may believe that want to live in some sort of socialist utopia, but I suspect you just want things your way.

If you consider capitalism/free markets to be a 'dangerous message' then I'd love to hear your alternative. Some sort of global socialist fixed pricing?

If Aldi charged 80euros extra in the UK for those tellies, I guarantee you they would have sold out there on the same day anyway. Market forces don't really come into this case -the price was cheap in both countries. They could have priced it at *200euros* more and chances are they would have sold-out on the same day in both countries.
Aldi weren't trying to find what the market would bear... just to create a buzz about their amazingly-low prices.

The issue (for me) is the fact that Aldi selected a higher price in Ireland, "just because."

Your personal attacks and your rigid outlook are misguided and self-deprecating in my view.

TBMC

pH wrote:

Well if you think that it's a 'dangerous message' then I seriously suggest you are in need of a basic education in economics. The basic foundation of a free market and capitalism is that you charge what the market will allow. You may believe that want to live in some sort of socialist utopia, but I suspect you just want things your way.

Thanks for that. I think maybe you need a basic education in reading. My point was we are sending the message that the Irish Market WILL allow you to charge more because we will just accept it. I want more money in my pocket because even on a decent wage i find it hard to make ends meet in Ireland, never mind saving for the future.....

pH

Gunther_Gloop wrote:

The issue (for me) is the fact that Aldi selected a higher price in Ireland, "just because."

Your personal attacks and your rigid outlook are misguided and self-deprecating in my view.

That's funny - you really haven't a clue, what exactly does 'just because' mean? it couldn't mean that Ireland is further from their distribution hub and is a more expensive place to do business could it?

My point was we are sending the message that the Irish Market WILL allow you to charge more because we will just accept it. I want more money in my pocket because even on a decent wage i find it hard to make ends meet in Ireland, never mind saving for the future.....

You send an economic message by either buying at a price or not. Those that bought the TVs at the price Aldi were prepared to sell them have sent all the messages that Aldi and other retailers need to hear. Whining about it on an internet forum sends no message at all. Trying to organise the population into a single coherent buying force is a completely futile act.

What part of free markets/capitalism/Supply and Demand do you guys either not get or refuse to understand?

It is inherently completely correct to charge as much for a product/service as you can possibly get. It is the foundation of free market economy which in the long run makes us all more wealthy.

TBMC

pH wrote:

Trying to organise the population into a single coherent buying force is a completely futile act.

It is inherently completely correct to charge as much for a product/service as you can possibly get. It is the foundation of free market economy which in the long run makes us all more wealthy.

Not trying to organise anything. Just giving my opinion.

But in the interests of everyones happiness and the modern Utopia I will do what the Irish Consumer does and bow down to you superior wisdom. You win. You are the better person....

Gunther_Gloop

pH wrote:

That's funny - you really haven't a clue

There's not much more to be said that hasn't been said already. You like to 'score points' by littering your posts with personal attacks. I'm afraid I can't converse with you on that level.

You throw in non-sequiters and further attack the justifications you say others make for them. I'm afraid I won't converse with you on that level.

You can interpret what I've said in anyway you chose, but it still doesn't alter what I said.

subway

why dont people sell houses cheaper?
im sick of people selling houses at high prices "just because"

this is "the way" things work.
do you have a house?
were you ripped off?
is there not a cheapre country you coudl move to?
if you can afford a big fvck off tv, you hardly have a right to complain that somebody 500 miles away got it cheaper than you.
yes there are rip-offs in ireland, but 42" flat screen tv's is hardly what matters to the people actually, really, properply, severely affected by it.

and on a serious note,
maybe, since we have a smaller population, aldi shipped proprtionately less tv's to ireland.
hence shipping was proportionaltely higher thatn the uk who have a population some 15 times that of out little island.

Gunther_Gloop

subway wrote:

why dont people sell houses cheaper?
im sick of people selling houses at high prices "just because"

this is "the way" things work.
do you have a house?
were you ripped off?
is there not a cheapre country you coudl move to?
if you can afford a big fvck off tv, you hardly have a right to complain that somebody 500 miles away got it cheaper than you.
yes there are rip-offs in ireland, but 42" flat screen tv's is hardly what matters to the people actually, really, properply, severely affected by it.

and on a serious note,
maybe, since we have a smaller population, aldi shipped proprtionately less tv's to ireland.
hence shipping was proportionaltely higher thatn the uk who have a population some 15 times that of out little island.

I'm not sure if you read the entire thread, but everything you said has been addressed already.

subway

Gunther_Gloop wrote:

I'm not sure if you read the entire thread, but everything you said has been addressed already.

yes i did, and you have not been addressed any of them.
your argument that its not fair "just because" is infantile and does not deal with your actual complaint.
you want something to be done, but we cannot control the market.

you say its everyone else is at fault yet you bought one of their "overpriced" dvd players.
surely we should "weep for the furture" on your behalf.
you are the ultimate hipocrit, everyone else should complain that the item is overpriced, yet you should buy it?
brilliant.

get some principles and have the balls to back up what you say or, for gods sake, stop whining

subway

subway wrote:

yes i did, and you have not been addressed any of them.
your argument that its not fair "just because" is infantile and does not deal with your actual complaint.
you want something to be done, but we cannot control the market.

you say its everyone else is at fault yet you bought one of their "overpriced" dvd players.
surely we should "weep for the furture" on your behalf.
you are the ultimate hipocrit, everyone else should complain that the item is overpriced, yet you should buy it?
brilliant.

get some principles and have the balls to back up what you say or, for gods sake, stop whining

oh, sorry,
i realise you bought it because "your eyes are open"
not because you actually mean what you say.
grow up.
i can buy anything for whatever the **** reason i want.
its my money.

Gunther_Gloop

subway wrote:

get some principles and have the balls to back up what you say or, for gods sake, stop whining

Clearly you have no understanding of what I said or the reason I made the original post. That is fine by me.
The only whining I've seen on here has been done by people hurling personal abuse due to a perceived attack on what they (obviously) hold dear.
You are free to continue in that regard also, but I won't be arguing with you. Not my style I'm afraid. You can fling your mud, but in my opinion it only serves to dirty yourself.

subway

The opinions raised here only enforce my initial point though... Aldi charge so much more in Ireland because they can.
In a way, I'm not criticising Aldi (they'd charge extra in the UK too if they thought they'd get away with it there).
I'm criticising the fact that they _can_ get away with it here -as others here have most-satisfactorily proven.

If everyone else believes it's all ok, then more power to the lot of you.

It's not as sweet as it could, should or would be if there weren't so many people with more money than sense in this country.

I weep for the future.

I fail to see why you all seem to _want_ the higher price, but as I said before ...you're all free to do so

I bought a hdmi dvd player in Aldi on Friday and it is great.

I made my point

just to clarify,
your argument is that they charge more money becuse they can.
you think were a bit silly for giving them our money.
your the only one here who gave them money.
but its ok because you didnt give them the money because you thought you were getting a good deal, but because you wanted a cheap hdmi player?

your posts beggar belief.

ive come to the conclusion that your shilling for aldi as thats the only way any of this makes sense.

Gunther_Gloop

subway wrote:

just to clarify,
your argument is that they charge more money becuse they can.
you think were a bit silly for giving them our money.
your the only one here who gave them money.
but its ok because you didnt give them the money because you thought you were getting a good deal, but because you wanted a cheap hdmi player?

your posts beggar belief.

ive come to the conclusion that your shilling for aldi as thats the only way any of this makes sense.

I agree that your clarification makes little sense.
I really don't have an argument at all in fact -I leave that to others. I reported on a price difference between one Aldi store and another. If that causes the fabric of our great country & economy to crumble, then it's not based on very sturdy fabric.
...but I don't believe anything of the sort.

subway

there your words, not mine.
im trying to make sense out of your contradictory statements.
you have done more than reported a rpice and left arguing to others.
potential reasons for the difference have been explained and you have responded by saying things as

if there weren't so many people with more money than sense in this country.

do you have a point or are you just trolling by now?
if you do not wish to clarify your stance ill leave it at that.

Gunther_Gloop

subway wrote:

there your words, not mine.
im trying to make sense out of your contradictory statements.
you have done more than reported a rpice and left arguing to others.
potential reasons for the difference have been explained and you have responded by saying things as


do you have a point or are you just trolling by now?
if you do not wish to clarify your stance ill leave it at that.

I made my point with the first post I made ...but here it is again because you are so desperate to hear it again...

Aldi marked-up the price of the item in question in Ireland... because they believe (right or wrongly) that people here are willing to pay more. Reactions in this thread have proved this to be correct.

I used no personal taunts or attacks and I didn't try to misrepresent or reinterpret what anyone else has said. Those tactics really take from any point a person might be trying to make (whether they know what they are attacking or not).

subway

thats what i thought your point was.
for some reason you seemed unwillinly to reiterate it,
particularly when i was accurate in all of my above statements.

so, since you have so eloqeuntly restated your point, can we get back to the issue i have with your post please?
do you not feel like a hypocrite for buying the dvd player which was similarly overpriced.
i mean are you not justifying aldis overpriced selling by stating that you bought one of the items?

tabatha

unklerosco wrote:

:rolleyes:

Why don't u go live in the UK then??? Did u actually buy one of these tvs???

Here's something for u...

Aver price of petrol in the UK is €1.35, in Ireland its €1.11

Fill and ave car, say 40ltr tank, once a week... Its €9.60 cheaper here..

So when u move to england, and after 10 weeks there.. When u've spent €96 more on petrol you'll kick yourself and think "Why didn't i just pay the extra €80 for the TV???"

some people overexaggerate so much! petrol prices in the uk are average 92.6p at the moment. asda have droped them to 79.9p, thats 118.9 euro.
http://www.whatprice.co.uk/car/petrol-stations.php
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3791589.stm

thats not to far off the current irish prices and far less than your estimate

Gunther_Gloop

subway wrote:

so, since you have so eloqeuntly restated your point, can we get back to the issue i have with your post please?
do you not feel like a hypocrite for buying the dvd player which was similarly overpriced.
i mean are you not justifying aldis overpriced selling by stating that you bought one of the items?

Again, your question is based on a premise of your construction. You can make your own mind up (as you have already) on my motive for anything.

I'm not justifying anything I, Aldi or anyone else is doing. I will leave that to the moral philosohpers.

unklerosco

http://www.petrolprices.com/

Its 106 at the mo...

PixelTrawler

sooo.... the tv then...

did anyone get one and is it any good?