GPS: Airis T920 or Garmin Nuvi 310/360?

Jib51

Here are english files for v3458.
http://airisgps.blogsite.org/data/files/3458-ppc-uk.zip

taximan

Here is a link to Jib51's excellent site (translated for those of us who daydreamed during French lessons at school):

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://remotew.free.fr/airist920/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dairis%2B920%2Bfirmware%26hl%3Den

je ne regrette rien!

taximan

Am poor at this posting lark, meant to say does anyone know when the new maps are coming out? I found a site saying Route 66 will be releasing Navigate 8 and Mobile 8 pocket pc and smathphone software solutions in late September/early October using Q2, 2007 Navteq data - I'd be happy if I could get Q4, 2006!

opus

Jib51 wrote:

Here are english files for v3458.
http://airisgps.blogsite.org/data/files/3458-ppc-uk.zip

Merci beaucoup Jib51 the upgrade to v3458 worked with AirisManager. It does need the English version of the files you posted & also I found I needed to copy the files from the card to the Infinity folder like before.

Thanks again!

taximan

For the poster who asked what SD card works then below is the link to one I bought - I have a friend in the North who can receive Amazon.co.uk parcels which helped!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDB-2048-E10-SecureDigital-Card-2Gb/dp/B000BQ7GW8/ref=pd_ts_c_th_1/203-0597777-5473518?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=right-4&pf_rd_r=0ZQATKJYVJFC7M26YR7A&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=151112691&pf_rd_i=560798

cormie

taximan wrote:

For the poster who asked what SD card works then below is the link to one I bought - I have a friend in the North who can receive Amazon.co.uk parcels which helped!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDB-2048-E10-SecureDigital-Card-2Gb/dp/B000BQ7GW8/ref=pd_ts_c_th_1/203-0597777-5473518?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=right-4&pf_rd_r=0ZQATKJYVJFC7M26YR7A&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=151112691&pf_rd_i=560798

Thanks very much for the reply

Is this:
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_6&products_id=100971

The same one? Does the 2gb fit all included maps? Ire, UK and all of the European countries? Also, I remember an option to "choose map" but since I only had the Ire/UK map loaded, that was the only option. I'm just wondering, if I have the IRE/UK map and the French and Spanish map installed for example, could I calculate a route from Dublin to Madrid via London and Paris for example or would I have to plan it 3 times, using each map, so Dublin - London, London to the south of england, then north of france to the south of france, then the north of spain to madrid if you get me?

cormie

actually it's cheaper after delivery here: http://mx2.co.uk/default.asp?part=SANSD2GB Just hope it's the same one!

taximan

Both links look like the card I have. I don't know about the cross-country route planning as I've never tried it but maybe someone else can comment.

Does anyone have news on map updates? I'm happy with the T920 but my maps are ancient, if there was a way to get new maps (even as a one-off) I'd be happy!

cormie

I ordered the one from mx2, so hopefully it should be here soon, and hopefully it will work:)

taximan

Meant to reassure you as well that yep, you'll get all of Europe onto the 2GB card - the only reason at the moment I can see for going to a 4GB card is the extra space for MP3's etc

cormie

taximan wrote: »

Meant to reassure you as well that yep, you'll get all of Europe onto the 2GB card - the only reason at the moment I can see for going to a 4GB card is the extra space for MP3's etc

That's good to know:) I have a seperate mp3 player so 2gb should be fine:)

But turns out the card I ordered is out of stock on mx2, which I only found out after emailing them asking what's happening because I haven't heard anything after putting in my order

cormie

Noooo!!

I just formatted my card to put the French map on it and now the activation key wont work. I'm leaving for France tomorrow morning. I need this sorted asap, I only know like 2 words in French:o Any help... please please please!!

cormie

Another format and reinstall and the same activation key worked this time... phew!

fullirish

Hi All

I have read all 41 pages and am slightly confused - do a lot of traveling in France and Spain for work and am looking for a gps with European maps to street level.

It sounds like the Airis T920XXL is the man but I think I read earlier that the maps may not be updated.

The route 66 chicago 8000 has a larger screen and the map updates seem to be much more expected.

Auris: 236 euros: http://www.pixmania.com/ie/uk/628435/art/airis/t920xxl-2-gb-gps-europe-a.html?itag=9698#fichetechnique

chicago 8000: 288 euros:
http://www.pixmania.com/ie/uk/551224/art/route-66/chicago-8000-gps-europe-c.html?itag=9698#fichetechnique

Which one would be better ? or is there a new entrant ?

Can smeone in the know steer me in the right direction please ?

ta
fullirish

greglo23

The Europa 8000 is 250 Euro on Komplett http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=332417

RYR154

I would go for the chicago 8000 or even the 9000 version.

I have one and there great. The screen is larger and the voice is nice and clear.

fullirish

Thanks ryr and greglo - so it looks like a route 66 chicago for defo and thanks on the komplett link - good find.

Just a quick question on the difference between 8000 and 9000 - the only difference appears to be a 64MB memory and a Traffic Management Channel (TMC) - forty euros in difference - are these worth it ?

cheers
fullirish

RYR154

the only difference appears to be a 64MB memory and a Traffic Management Channel (TMC) - forty euros in difference - are these worth it ?

Ya, because you will be kicking yourself if you don't get the full 9000.

I got the 6000 when I should have got the 9000. Only discovered this after I got it

fullirish

thanks RYR - final question, should I exercise some self control and wait the three to four weeks until the new route 66 maps come out (November) as per other recent post ? Or does it filter into the new products that quickly ?

cheers

RYR154

Not sure about that fullirish,

You might want to check back over the forum to see if they are normally released on time.

Sometimes they give a date and it could be months after!

taximan

So what is the story on map updates for the T920? I saw via Jib51's website that Airis France might be offering an update to Q4-2006 maps.....not as good as Q2-2007 but better than I have now.....would be a little annoyed if I had to ditch the T920 for a whole new PND just cos I couldn't get maps :mad:

Jib51

Hello to all !

I would like to know if everybody is satisfied with Route66 voices ? (either US or UK).

Maybe you already knew that we can create custom voices.
I've created 3 french voices and if some people need another US or UK voice, I could make one.

Here are two examples :
http://remotew.free.fr/airist920/data/files/peter-uk.wav
http://remotew.free.fr/airist920/data/files/ibm-us.wav

Is there one you would like ?

opus

Jib51 wrote: »

Hello to all !
I would like to know if everybody is satisfied with Route66 voices ? (either US or UK).

The UK one is fine with me, unless you have an Irish sounding version

Dingatron

A Louth one would be good. Turn rite a de end of tha sreet. Yu have reached ur gaff.

Seriously though the UK one is the better of the two.

Jib51

Sorry, no TTS irish voice available on the web (except if someone could give some URLs). So maybe I would create Peter's voice for Route66...

pissed

Or how about the Dublin voice featured on gift grub

take a left .... right. At the end of d road take a right BUD

Dingatron

Jib51 wrote: »

English language is planned for AirisManager.

Hey Jib51 are you still planning an English version of AirisManager? Looking to mess around with my Airis but hesitant using the French version. Is it possible to 'brick' the Airis using AirisManager or can mistakes be rolled back?

cormie

Hi,
Can anyone confirm what the latest maps are for the Airis t920a? My maps are a bit out of date and would like to update if there is an updated one available but I don't want to go and pay for it if it's the same one I have already! Is it possible to buy Britain alone since I got a CD with all of EUROPE when I bought it?

whyulittle

How much does the Airis generally pass hands for second hand? Have one that I might want to get rid of and am wondering what's a fair price. It's in really good condition, maps are Q3 or Q4 2005 though I think.

No enquiries about buying it off me here please. Will put it up on adverts.ie if I decide to sell it.

Thanks.

Dingatron

Maps are well out of date. I personally wouldn't pay more than a €100 with the Q3 or Q4 2005 maps on it.

whyulittle

Cool, thanks.

pissed

I got one on adverts a while back with the Q2 2006 european maps for €120. So I would say you would be doing well to reach the €100

whyulittle

I know it's in this thread somewhere, but I just can't find it, but, how do you find out what Q map you have installed? Going into Help only gives you the software version? 7.0.1895. I'm thinking it's something like cold starting it and holding something down to get the map version?

opus

whyulittle wrote: »

I know it's in this thread somewhere, but I just can't find it, but, how do you find out what Q map you have installed? Going into Help only gives you the software version? 7.0.1895. I'm thinking it's something like cold starting it and holding something down to get the map version?

It's at the bottom of the About Navigate screen e.g. on my one is says Navteq Q2/2006....

cormie

Anyone know where to get the latest maps? I need an update!

whyulittle

opus wrote: »

It's at the bottom of the About Navigate screen e.g. on my one is says Navteq Q2/2006....

D'oh! Thanks :P

Q4 2005 Full European Maps as it turns out.

cormie

I've Q2 2006 aswell, how many updates have their been since then? Q3, Q4 2006, along with 4 Q's for 2007 or has there been less?

cormie

Is it possible to get a single .prm file of europe (including all countries and of course UK and Ireland) on the Airis t920a? It'd be good for planning a route from say Ireland to wherever, without having to select a new map for each country you enter.

If so, is it really slow to find places and zoom around and all that because the map is so big and there would be so many results to filter?

shayser

Well I think I've been conned in buying the Airis. A SatNav with no updates? Useless.

fletch

Surely the Airis uses the same maps as any other device running Route66 software so it'll just be a matter of dropping the new maps into the folder?

eirlink

nope, wont work ( tried it ! purely for research purposes of course ) the maps locked by encryption. the unlock keys are held on R66 servers.

its a prm file extension on the airis, the latest r66 maps are

q2 2007

as supplied with the new Route 66 branded mini and maxi units.

Unfortunately they are not compatible formats so an overwrite will NOT work...plus its against the EULA !

i have a r66 mini on test at moment and it is running r66 NAVIGATOR 8.. version 8.0.3061. it has IRL and ALL of europe on a 2 gig card. It also has a new GUI which is a huge improvement on the
GUI in the airis.

Finally, and most important, it comes with a DVD which contains " R66 Sync " which connects via the www to a site where you can download maps, new voices, new colour schemes and Rough Guides travel guides.

these downloads are pulled down from the web via r66 sync propritery software and are then downloaded to the device. The device has a "EXTRAS " folder within which these downloads are contained.

The folder has sub folders called:
Voucher code
Maps
Traffic info
Safety cameras
Weather
Travel Guides
Voices
Colour schemes
Update

the mini retails for €199.00 ( online from mysatnav )


check out a review here
http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/review/2008/01/07/Route-66-Mini-Regional-Sat-Nav/p1

if you need any areas checked to see if they are on q2 2007 before you buy, then PM me.....just not all at once !!;)

PS
Some of the downloads are free, inc colours free. Others inc BMW and Mercedes colour schemes are 99 cents each.

shayser

I won't be buying anything with Airis or Route 66 on the box.

eirlink

shayser wrote: »

I won't be buying anything with Airis or Route 66 on the box.

for the money its quite a good unit, plus the download option is available. Im not sure yet if the download re maps offers an "update "
I think its the full map inc updates......i will try to find out.

Jib51

What about Speed Cameras which are not free anymore with route66 Navigate 8 ? What about the impossible addition of custom POIs in Navigate 8 ? Should I continue ?

Route66 Navigate 7 was a good product, but in the mean time, many other brands released better products, with a lot more customization possibilities, and some free bonus. Route66 Mini/Maxi products are cheap, but you need to pay for everything. So what's the point to buy Route 66 ?

taximan

was in the UK over Christmas, got a TomTom XL Europe edition for 180 euros (Dixons tax free at Stansted airport); feel pretty cheated by Airis\Route66 as I bought kit which can only be upgraded via effectively 3rd party hacks and no new maps......don't care what their new products are like, they had a chance to keep me as a customer but I'll never go back to their products again

Dingatron

Interesting thread started which may breed new life back into the Airis.

Edit: Never mind gone now.

Jib51

Yeap it's gone and it's not really nice to see that my post about AirisTool (and only about AirisTool) has been deleted.

AirisTool is a tool I've created, and it's something 100% legal to better our T920. So please admins, don't delete posts about it, thanks in advance.

Dingatron

Jib51 there was links to illegal maps in the thread so I'd assume that's why some of the posts were deleted although I see your point. As you said the AirisTool provides extra functionality to the Airis and there is nothing illegal about it. It's a great tool and I know you put a lot of work into it so for that I salute you. It has allowed me install apps, customise and also gives me the option to install 'legal' maps on the Airis which is great to prolong the life of the device. Thanks for developing the AirisTool!

Lester Banks

Cal wrote: »

Download the powertoys app. Then run the exe from a PC with the Airis attached via USB. The exe automatically installs the reg editor using active sync. The exe would not run from CE. But straight forward it is. The effect of the registry change takes a minute or two though.

Cal.

Soft reset is the button on the side or start 'Suspender'

Hi Cal,
After hours of trying, I managed to get Pocket register editor working on my AIRIS. I'm running Windows Vista so had to download new drivers for "Windows mobile device center". Was then able to install Pocket reg edit on to Airis and run it from within Windows CE. I modified register as advised (i.e set "Screen" value to 0 (zero)), did a soft reset. After soft reset, system came back up still in Windows CE, I ran Route66 but still getting "Clicking" sound on screen tap.

Any suggestions?

Elessar

So wait...the Airis T920 cannot be updated with new maps??