Supplements

Pace2008

AFAIK Jack3d contains the unnaproved DMAA, and therefore I would have thought that under the Psychoactive Substances Bill, the supplement stores could risk prosecution if they were unable to prove the substance is not being sold for human consumption.

Or is this law only applied to headshops de facto?

Spunge

Pace2008 wrote: »

AFAIK Jack3d contains the unnaproved DMAA, and therefore I would have thought that under the Psychoactive Substances Bill, the supplement stores could risk prosecution if they were unable to prove the substance is not being sold for human consumption.

Or is this law only applied to headshops de facto?

Yeah i thought nothing like that could be sold, i guess no-one really bothered to check. Makes a bit more sense why the store near me previously named "Amsterdam", is now called "The Muscle Shop".

xgtdec

I have a stupidly high tolerance to pre-supps, i take jack3d once every 2 weeks and i get an effect, any more regular and i get nothing, guess ill just have to learn to work hard without it:)

nathansredarmy

Alri lads currently using maximuscle products that i hate the taste is dreadfull and im just getting constant stomach aches probaly from the fact i cant stand the taste,
im on the look for new protein and was on universal nutrition and came across Kinetica sports whey protein.

Anyone used this? Has some decent reviews on the site but looking for a few more opinions before i get it ,is this a good muscle builder not looking to gain weight just lean muscle and tone.

nathansredarmy

Alri lads currently using maximuscle products that i hate the taste is dreadfull and im just getting constant stomach aches probaly from the fact i cant stand the taste,
im on the look for new protein and was on universal nutrition and came across Kinetica sports whey protein.

Anyone used this? Has some decent reviews on the site but looking for a few more opinions before i get it ,is this a good muscle builder not looking to gain weight just lean muscle and tone.

brian plank

if taste bothers you then avoid. it tastes ****e and doesn't mix very well

Duck's hoop

Optimum Nutrition Chocolate Mint for taste and quality.

It's very nice indeed.

The Davestator

Kinetica is one of the best there is IMO. You can get cheaper but sometimes it taste disgusting and ends up in the bin or unused.
Kinetica were giving away a lot of free samples, see if you can get a few to check the taste

Bruckey2345

I bought some recently , tasted nice and mixed well. I'd recommend it

Bruckey2345

I bought some whey recently just wondering when to take it after workout and in the morning or at night before bed?

TimeToShine

optimum nutrition chocolate or chocolate mint is like sex in your mouth

Hanley

Mellor wrote: »

BSN also owned by Glenbia

deadanonymau5

Duck's hoop wrote: »

Optimum Nutrition Chocolate Mint for taste and quality.

It's very nice indeed.

TimeToShine wrote: »

optimum nutrition chocolate or chocolate mint is like sex in your mouth

Extreme Choc, didnt like choc mint!

gsxr1

I have been thinking of buying some whey .
I am trying to lose a little weight and tone up with weights machines.

There is so much reading in this one thread its hard to find.

My question is.

Instead of using whey shakes.

Could I not just drink a pint of low fat milk and get similar results in recovery?

Mellor

Hanley wrote: »

Care to elaborate Hanley?
Is it the fact that they own BSN or that I made a typo and spelt in Glenbia instead of Glanbia :pac:?

They bought BSN at the start of the year, for something like $150million

Hanley

Mellor wrote: »

Care to elaborate Hanley?
Is it the fact that they own BSN or that I made a typo and spelt in Glenbia instead of Glanbia :pac:?

They bought BSN at the start of the year, for something like $150million

I knew they owned USN, had no idea they bought BSN too!!

Dubdude

Hanley wrote: »

I knew they owned USN, had no idea they bought BSN too!!

Just had a quick look and the don't seem to have USN listed but do have BSN... http://www.glanbia.com/our-brands#

Hanley

Dubdude wrote: »

Just had a quick look and the don't seem to have USN listed but do have BSN... http://www.glanbia.com/our-brands#

By "USN" I meant "ON" - so many accronyms. This is getting ridiculous

Dathai

Didn't think they'd get BSN! Nice!

drdeadlift

Dathai wrote: »

Didn't think they'd get BSN! Nice!

even less competition.Prices will be on the up

BadCharlie

drdeadlift wrote: »

even less competition.Prices will be on the up

I like paying high prices im RICH

Im just glad i bought 25kg of protein before the end of last year. Should see me out for this year and even some of next.

marathonic

What about 'best before' dates?

As far as I'm aware, most whey has dates of up to one year in the future - but it appears to be safe enough to use it up to a few months after these dates and the only thing that really deteriorates is the flavourings (by a little).

I've got about 8kg of Chocolate Smooth with a November date and 2.5kg of Strawberry Cream with a March 2012 date.

boomtown84

nathansredarmy wrote: »

Alri lads currently using maximuscle products that i hate the taste is dreadfull and im just getting constant stomach aches probaly from the fact i cant stand the taste,
im on the look for new protein and was on universal nutrition and came across Kinetica sports whey protein.

Anyone used this? Has some decent reviews on the site but looking for a few more opinions before i get it ,is this a good muscle builder not looking to gain weight just lean muscle and tone.

i've been using it for months now.
had the choc and it didn't taste great, have strawberry now and it's delish.
it mixes fine with water, not so great with milk.
it's also cheaper than ON Whey.

LFC5Times

The Dublin team use Kinetica Protein and other Kinetica products.

cc87

LFC5Times wrote: »

The Dublin team use Kinetica Protein and other Kinetica products.

If i was getting Kinectica for free i would use it as well

TimeToShine

cc87 wrote: »

If i was getting Kinectica for free i would i use it as well

lol'd

BigDuffman

USN Strawberry is nice too.

TommyKnocker

gsxr1 wrote: »

I have been thinking of buying some whey .
I am trying to lose a little weight and tone up with weights machines.

There is so much reading in this one thread its hard to find.

My question is.

Instead of using whey shakes.

Could I not just drink a pint of low fat milk and get similar results in recovery?

No expert, but IMHO is losing weight is your goal, then there should be no reason to take shakes, unless for convenience.

Whey supplements which are not sold as weight gainers are mostly low in fat and carbs. A pint of low fat milk would provide circa 24g of carbs. Not a lot I will grant you, but just be aware of it.

Do you know how many calories you require each day/week to maintain you current weight (maintenance calorie figure)? Are you concerned with or have you give any thought to the macro nutrient (Protein, Fats, Carbs) breakdown of your diet?

At a very basic level you should know you maintenance calorie figure, so that you can create a daily/weekly calorie deficit to facilitate weight loss.

Then resistance training and eating an appropriate amount of protein, should encourage you body to retain lean muscle and dip into your fat reserves for the extra energy required to bridge the deficit.

BadCharlie

marathonic wrote: »

What about 'best before' dates?.

Have until 2013 for mine

cc87

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

No they wont. Theres tons of popular/good brands in the supp industry? and Optimum was acquired in 2008 and prices havent increased

A number of brands and websites have sent emails out about price increases happening soon if not already.
There have been a number of threads on it already.


AFAIK, the reason is the raw ingredients for whey protein are becoming more scarce due to increased demand which is driving the price up.

Competition or no competition in the supplement industry, the price is on the increase