Supplements

Owen_S

Gummy Panda wrote: »

If you can't get enough good meals, you coukd take a gainer like ON Serious Mass or BSN True Mass. I don't know the name of Gaspari's one.

EDIT: It'll be better and more enjoyable to eat more food though, so try to restructure your eating plan.

Yeah eating more real food would be a better option. If you look at the cost per serving of a lot of these ''weight gainers'', you will see that they are far more expensive that real food. Nutritionally, they are no better, in fact usually worse than a real meal. The majority of weight gainers are some cheap source of carbs(maltodextrin for example) combined with protein.

Protein powder combined with real food would be a cheaper and better option

real stig

Thanks for the replies lads, I was going for the supplements route just until I got used to being able to eat enough proper food. Would a protein shake before bed be a good idea? I got ON Gold Standard but are there good alternatives out there that are a bit cheaper?

eoinob50

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Hi guys,

Anyone know where I can Optimum Nutrition samples?

I'm looking for a sample of their banana and strawberry banana whey before I buy a 5lb tub.

if your still looking for samples try emailing them at irelandconsumer@optimumnutrition.com
and ask for samples!
worked for me :-)

Gummy Panda

eoinob50 wrote: »

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Hi guys,

Anyone know where I can Optimum Nutrition samples?

I'm looking for a sample of their banana and strawberry banana whey before I buy a 5lb tub.

if your still looking for samples try emailing them at irelandconsumer@optimumnutrition.com
and ask for samples!
worked for me :-)

I sent them a mail but they never replied which is strange for them. Checked gmail and email is saved in drafts.

Doh! :P

HR X LM

Wel guys, I have both whey and caesin power at home, I take whey after my workout and caesin before bedtime. What should I take in the morning? Thanks

Parsley

HR X LM wrote: »

Wel guys, I have both whey and caesin power at home, I take whey after my workout and caesin before bedtime. What should I take in the morning? Thanks

food.

pachey100

http://www.nutrabolics.com/ Just wondering has anybody used any of there products? Was thinking of getting some hemotropin.

retenzo12

Can anyone tell me if taking 3 doses of caesin protein in the morning would get the same benifit as 3 seperate whey protein shakes?

Thanks

marathonic

retenzo12 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me if taking 3 doses of caesin protein in the morning would get the same benifit as 3 seperate whey protein shakes?

Thanks

I usually just take whey but, as far as I'm aware, one of the main benefits of casein is slow absorbtion (I may be wrong here).

If so, putting aside whether or not 3 servings should be included in your diet, why would you want to do it? Why not just take one the night before and one in the morning?

Unless you're very very big and can't get most of your 1-1.5g per lb bodyweight of protein in you through regular food, three shakes in the morning is overdoing in my opinion.

retenzo12

the idea behind it would be to intake the slow release protein in one hit instead of carrying around 3 seperate beakers for protein to be taken throughout the day.

Parsley

i know it might sound like a silly question but i feel i should ask... do you eat food? why are you having 3 shakes a day?

retenzo12

To achieve 1.5gram of protein per lb...

Im being very "what if" here, i would not be taking 3 shakes daily however on training days it has happened in the past....

So Parsley am=ny input on the question asked in the original post?

Parsley

retenzo12 wrote: »

To achieve 1.5gram of protein per lb...

Im being very "what if" here, i would not be taking 3 shakes daily however on training days it has happened in the past....

So Parsley am=ny input on the question asked in the original post?

i have no idea, but it does sound pretty silly. i have no reason to support or rubbish the idea but... if you want to have three casein shakes for breakfast in one go, you can tell us how it works out!

dumbbell

as far as i know your wasting your time taking three.. the body can only break down like 40 grams of protein at a time .. the rest is thrown out

Parsley

dumbbell wrote: »

as far as i know your wasting your time taking three.. the body can only break down like 40 grams of protein at a time .. the rest is thrown out

if that's as far as you know, you should go learn more :pac:

that's one of them silly myths that people seem to spread around for no real reason...

Owen_S

HR X LM wrote: »

Wel guys, I have both whey and caesin power at home, I take whey after my workout and caesin before bedtime. What should I take in the morning? Thanks

If you already have protein powder, then add a scoop into a bowl of porridge. Quick and tastes good.

Owen_S

Well the clue is in the name, that product is 'bolics'

pachey100

Jesus someones on fire :pac: Have you ever used them?

RMD

Products that claim to be some super hormone inducer yet aren't a prescribed substance are generally pure and utter bollox which will make a marginal difference but nothing impressive. It looks like an absolute waste of 105$.

retenzo12

Afaik that is only the case with whey protein as it is processed upon intake however with caesin it is slowly released which in theory should allow the body to process it throughout the day as required..however I could be wrong which is why I've asked the question..

pachey100

I have used Hgh enhancers with great affect in the past I asked if anybody has any experience with these. Not if you think they are a good idea or not. I have used other hgh boosters in the past with good results and I am looking at trying something new.

the drifter

best product name ever....

"come ere i tell ya...im on the nurtabolics..."

or even there other products...hemotest and fighters food...

Parsley

retenzo12 wrote: »

Afaik that is only the case with whey protein as it is processed upon intake however with caesin it is slowly released which in theory should allow the body to process it throughout the day as required..however I could be wrong which is why I've asked the question..

tbh... i'd say it doesn't matter.

Mellor

dumbbell wrote: »

as far as i know your wasting your time taking three.. the body can only break down like 40 grams of protein at a time .. the rest is thrown out

As mentioned its a myth, its a misapplication of two different studies.
Using a real world example highlights how silly it is, a steak easily has 90gs of protein. there is no way the body on'y absorbs less than half of this

Jarren

a waste of money OP,any particuliar reason why you looking to buy the hemotropin ?

marathonic

I have a question about MP Max Hurricane Evo. I started my tub of this today (it came as part of a bundle purchased back in May).

It says that you should take a 60g serving twice a day – one when you wake and one after your workout. I work out at 6.30am and took one prior to this. I then cycle to work and took the second at 8.30am. I find it quite discomforting to the stomach to take so much – probably due to the lack of ‘real food’ in the stomach at this time.

What are your suggestions on this?

Is the recommended servings an overdose based on trying to sell more of the product or should I take one in the morning and one at night instead?

I’m thinking that the recommended dosage has probably something to do with the creatine/glutamine/l-leucine quantities in a serving. If this is the case, I have those ingredients in separate bags so could take one serving of MP Max Hurricane Evo each morning and a serving of creatine/glutamine/l-leucine with a normal whey shake in the evening.

Anyone any thoughts?

Mebbel

Hi All,

I have recently been looking for a specific pre-work out supplement that I had previously tried. I've gone to a number of shops in Dublin, which all seem to be stocking a number of different brands, but do not carry that which I am looking for.

The product is iForce Maximize V2.

I was wondering if anybody over in Dublin has tried this, and knows where I can go to pick this up?

The help would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

pachey100

jarecki1976 wrote: »

a waste of money OP,any particuliar reason why you looking to buy the hemotropin ?

Just herd they are the bees knees and they are 54 euro from the vitamin shop.

Jarren

No OP

Spend your money on real food not supps

I had a quick glance at the ingredients


HEMOTROPIN TACTICS: Increase GH Release In a Natural & Progressive Pulse-Wave Manner*

GH is a peptide hormone a group of 191 amino acids linked in a specific sequence and released by the anterior pituitary gland in pulses. HemoTropin may help increase the release of GH naturally, and with wave-like precision.*

HEMOTROPIN INTEGRALS: GH-Releasing Secretagogues, and Amino Acid Precursors for Multi-Pathway GH Release*

GH-Releasing Complex HemoTropin increases GH output by combining four powerful and diverse compounds*;

1) GHRP-2 [D-Ala-D-B-Nal-Ala-Trp-D-Phe-Lys-OCH3]: peptides that reportedly increase natural GH levels by increasing GH-releasing factor (GRF), increased intracellular cyclic AMP (cAMP) concentrations that, in turn, improves GH release in a dose-dependent manner.*

2) Arginine Pyroglutamate: is formed by combining the amino acids L-Arginine and Pyroglutamate. L-Arginine is required for the synthesis and release of GH, due to the amino acid's role in normal functioning of the pituitary gland.

3) (2S)-2-aminopentanedioic acid: has recently shown great promise in triggering GH release above normal levels.* Research suggests (2S)-2-aminopentanedioic acid works in concert with other amino acids, such as L-Arginine, to increase GH output in the pituitary.*

4) Alpha GPC (L-alpha glycerylphosphorylcholine): is a water-soluble phospholipid and neurotransmitter precursor. It is a delivery form of choline, which is metabolized to acetylcholine. Research suggests that Alpha GPC promotes secretion of GH via its direct effect on the cholinergic system.*

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nbol/hemotropin.html

Bu....t marketing ,that's what it is

But this my opinion based on personal experience

Gummy Panda

Just take it pwo.

They probably assume you'll be training in the pm. The morning and pwo thing is suppose to be that body is craving nutrients (might have worded this wrong) so that's why they have that suggestion.