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    #5042
    RidleyRider
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    Also, creatine powder is cheaper in the long run compared to pills, for example- http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/creatine-monohydrate

    Compared to the 15e you pay for pills. When money comes your way I'd head down that route.


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    #5043
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    RidleyRider wrote: »
    Well I take a serving before and after my workout. 10mins before and after, but thats just me,.

    Just mix it with water, or what?


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    #5044
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    RidleyRider wrote: »
    Also, creatine powder is cheaper in the long run compared to pills, for example- http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/creatine-monohydrate

    Compared to the 15e you pay for pills. When money comes your way I'd head down that route.

    Isn't that the site people are currently having trouble with on here?


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    #5045
    RidleyRider
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    Isn't that the site people are currently having trouble with on here?

    Yes but it was just an example but for arguments sake- http://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/creapure-creatine-monohydrate.html
    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    Just mix it with water, or what?

    You can mix it in with your protein drinks after your work out or before hand have it with water or fruit juices if they fit into your kcal intake for the day.


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    #5046
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    RidleyRider wrote: »
    Yes but it was just an example but for arguments sake- http://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/creapure-creatine-monohydrate.html



    You can mix it in with your protein drinks after your work out or before hand have it with water or fruit juices if they fit into your kcal intake for the day.

    The bit about taking with a carb source is something I've both read and been told, if I was to take it with glucose pre workout would that be as effective as fruit juice yeah? How much of a difference will it make for pre workout if its water or juice?


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    #5047
    RidleyRider
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    The bit about taking with a carb source is something I've both read and been told, if I was to take it with glucose pre workout would that be as effective as fruit juice yeah? How much of a difference will it make for pre workout if its water or juice?

    Tbh I won't give you advice on something I'm unsure about. Maybe someone more intuitive in the area might be able to help you with that. As for the juice or water, all I notice is taste. Juice is nicer than water thats for sure.


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    #5048
    SpaceCowb0y
    Registered Users Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭SpaceCowb0y


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    The bit about taking with a carb source is something I've both read and been told, if I was to take it with glucose pre workout would that be as effective as fruit juice yeah? How much of a difference will it make for pre workout if its water or juice?
    RidleyRider wrote: »
    Tbh I won't give you advice on something I'm unsure about. Maybe someone more intuitive in the area might be able to help you with that. As for the juice or water, all I notice is taste. Juice is nicer than water thats for sure.

    Im no expert but from all i've ever read the impression i get is that carbs/fruit juice (i take mine with grape juice before or in a shake with protein and glucose straight after training) is used because fast acting sugars help the body to absorb the creatine faster then say water. Its the same reason you take a fast acting carb after training to help the muscles absorb the protein from your shake quicker, you always here people talking about "the window" you have after training to maximise protein synthesis and i assume its the same thing for creatine.


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    #5049
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    SpaceCowb0y wrote: »
    Im no expert but from all i've ever read the impression i get is that carbs/fruit juice (i take mine with grape juice before or in a shake with protein and glucose straight after training) is used because fast acting sugars help the body to absorb the creatine faster then say water. Its the same reason you take a fast acting carb after training to help the muscles absorb the protein from your shake quicker, you always here people talking about "the window" you have after training to maximise protein synthesis and i assume its the same thing for creatine.

    It doesn't really matter. Creatine has its own delivery path if taken with just water iirc.


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    #5050
    Ant11
    Registered Users Posts: 2,433 ✭✭✭Ant11


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    It doesn't really matter. Creatine has its own delivery path if taken with just water iirc.

    +1. Time of digestion doesn't matter.


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    #5051
    hypermuse
    Registered Users Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭hypermuse


    When people keep going on bout oats and instant oats... they just mean porridge right? much of a difference? whats the craic with that?


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    #5052
    DylanJM
    Registered Users Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭DylanJM


    Yes, oats refers to porridge. Instant oats usually refers to oats ground into a powder, handy for mixing into shakes and stuff.


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    #5053
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,195 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    DylanJM wrote: »
    Yes, oats refers to porridge. Instant oats usually refers to oats ground into a powder, handy for mixing into shakes and stuff.

    AH!!!

    I had no idea of this, I thought it was just porridge!

    I got a free bag last time I ordered from My Protein.

    What are the benefits of oats though? (Apologies if this is a silly question)


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    #5054
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    there's also pinhead oats someone mentioned to me about being amazing, but I didn't like them. texture was all wrong.


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    #5055
    RidleyRider
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    there's also pinhead oats someone mentioned to me about being amazing, but I didn't like them. texture was all wrong.

    Agree with you there tbh.


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    #5056
    SpaceCowb0y
    Registered Users Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭SpaceCowb0y


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    What are the benefits of oats though? (Apologies if this is a silly question)

    Just a great source of slow digesting low GI good carbs :)


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    #5057
    DEVOTION
    Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭DEVOTION


    Myprotein.co.uk

    Easily the worst company I have ever dealt with on the Internet. Posting here as I heard about them from this forum.


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    #5058
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    I've never used them and after the stuff on here lately I never will


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    #5059
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    MrStuffins wrote: »

    AH!!!

    I had no idea of this, I thought it was just porridge!

    I got a free bag last time I ordered from My Protein.

    What are the benefits of oats though? (Apologies if this is a silly question)

    That stuff is just powdered porridge oats. Get the 1.5kilo bags from aldi and stick them in a blender. I've been doing it for a year now and it works out a fraction of the price.


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    #5060
    vigos
    Registered Users Posts: 646 ✭✭✭vigos


    DEVOTION wrote: »
    Myprotein.co.uk

    Easily the worst company I have ever dealt with on the Internet. Posting here as I heard about them from this forum.

    I just put in an order the other day so am curious if I will get it or not. I paid for it with paypal so can alway open a dispute if it doesn't work out.


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    #5061
    Theresalwaysone
    Registered Users Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    very surprised at all the myprotein problems! I have dealt with them once or twice and no issues! slow delivery maybe but not too bad!

    discountsupplements are my site of choice though!


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    #5062
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,195 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    So, I have been recently told that a Whey shake takes 1.5 hours to digest. And that your body can only digest 10g of Protein in an hour, so anything more than 15g of Protein in a whey shake is a bit of a waste.

    How true is this exactly? Is the trick to drink it slowly over an hour or so?


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    #5063
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    where did you hear this?


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    #5064
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,195 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    where did you hear this?

    Read it in an article.


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    #5065
    The Guvnor
    Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭The Guvnor


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    So, I have been recently told that a Whey shake takes 1.5 hours to digest. And that your body can only digest 10g of Protein in an hour, so anything more than 15g of Protein in a whey shake is a bit of a waste.

    How true is this exactly? Is the trick to drink it slowly over an hour or so?

    Not at all.

    People come in all different shapes and sizes and therefore the amount of protein they can consume and digest varies greatly.

    A standard Maccy D's double cheeseburger probably has 30g of Protein.

    There is no issue with sipping a shake over an hour or so - I do this whilst driving but my shake just made has 85g Chocolate Pure Whey and 500ml milk.

    This is about 80g of actual protein.

    There is no finite amount one can absorb - however you'll know if and when you have consumed too much!:)


    Don't focus too much on articles like this just see what works for you etc.


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    #5066
    RidleyRider
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    The Guvnor wrote: »
    Not at all.

    People come in all different shapes and sizes and therefore the amount of protein they can consume and digest varies greatly.

    A standard Maccy D's double cheeseburger probably has 30g of Protein.

    There is no issue with sipping a shake over an hour or so - I do this whilst driving but my shake just made has 85g Chocolate Pure Whey and 500ml milk.

    This is about 80g of actual protein.

    There is no finite amount one can absorb - however you'll know if and when you have consumed too much!:)


    Don't focus too much on articles like this just see what works for you etc.

    What shake is this? Seems good.


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    #5067
    Ant11
    Registered Users Posts: 2,433 ✭✭✭Ant11


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    So, I have been recently told that a Whey shake takes 1.5 hours to digest. And that your body can only digest 10g of Protein in an hour, so anything more than 15g of Protein in a whey shake is a bit of a waste.

    How true is this exactly? Is the trick to drink it slowly over an hour or so?

    That myth has been debunk a long time ago. There a few threads about it too. Have a read of this.

    http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html?m=1


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    #5068
    double GG
    Registered Users Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭double GG


    RidleyRider wrote: »
    What shake is this? Seems good.

    I'm guessing it contains a few extra scoops of normal whey.


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    #5069
    RidleyRider
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    double GG wrote: »
    I'm guessing it contains a few extra scoops of normal whey.

    I was thinking the same after I read the post again, hardly your average two heaped scoops.


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    #5070
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Ordered off MP on new years day. Get dispatch mail today saying delivery is on 15 January. It must be going on a mystery tour.

    I think I'll use bulk powders for any big proper purchases.


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    #5071
    SpaceCowb0y
    Registered Users Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭SpaceCowb0y


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    Ordered off MP on new years day. Get dispatch mail today saying delivery is on 15 January. It must be going on a mystery tour.

    I think I'll use bulk powders for any big proper purchases.

    I gave up on MyProtein ages ago, i find Bulkpowders are much better! ironscience are pretty good too but i got a dodgy tasting bag of isolate off them so gave up on them too (although they did give me a full refund to be fair to them)


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