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Dtp1979 · 25-12-2015 11:23pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Nothing really. Just the ultra fine oats mix in a shake. You could grind normal porridge oats for a shake as well.

But there's no nutritional difference.

Did you ever try mixing the shake in a nutri bullet? I don't get the grainy effect because it disintegrates the oats.

Alf Veedersane · 25-12-2015 11:24pm

EmptyTree wrote: »

Nice one, great suggestion, I like the convenience of a ready made supp, but id definitely be willing to give this a go. I really like the idea of knowing what I'm getting, hate all the rubbish that's out there being sold at top dollar.

I get the attraction of the convenience - it is ultimately why people use shakes.

But for something like post-workout shakes or mass gainers are more simple than they are pitched as being. And, to be fair, there are plenty of alternatives for getting the calories on board that would cut out supplements.

But oats and whey is all the mass gainers are and in enough quantity to get you decent calories on board

A coffee grinder would also save you a few quid long term cos you could grind up ordinary porridge oats

Alf Veedersane · 25-12-2015 11:28pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Did you ever try mixing the shake in a nutri bullet? I don't get the grainy effect because it disintegrates the oats.

No, I don't have a nutri bullet. I only have the fine oats cos I got them on a promotion - I don't use gainers.

But anything that grinds up the oats would do the job and save you buying the fine oats

Dtp1979 · 25-12-2015 11:29pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

No, I don't have a nutri bullet. I only have the fine oats cos I got them on a promotion - I don't use gainers.

But anything that grinds up the oats would do the job and save you buying the fine oats

How much are your fine oats?

Alf Veedersane · 25-12-2015 11:32pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

How much are your fine oats?

I got a 5kg bag free but it'd cost about a tenner to buy.

EmptyTree · 26-12-2015 12:25am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

But for something like post-workout shakes or mass gainers are more simple than they are pitched as being. And, to be fair, there are plenty of alternatives for getting the calories on board that would cut out supplements.

But oats and whey is all the mass gainers are and in enough quantity to get you decent calories on board

A coffee grinder would also save you a few quid long term cos you could grind up ordinary porridge oats

Yes, I had been adding milk to get a few extra cals, I'll sit down and do the sums tomorrow to try to make it equivalent but your previous post have me a good starting point. I never really thought about making my own, wouldn't have known where to begin even if I did! Thanks Alf.

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I've added good peanut butter and some nuts along with the above to get some extra calories in too. Also adds a lot of protein to the shake too

Good idea. Come to think of it, I've a feeling there was an old thread on this a while ago, I'll dig it out tomorrow.

Alf Veedersane · 26-12-2015 12:33am

Plenty of options for good extra calories away from supplements alright.

But the the basic makeup of those mass gainers is a very straightforward mix of protein and carbs in a P:C breakdown of about 2:3 with about 400 kcals in there.

Doesn't need to be oats+protein, per se, but it's a lot cheaper to make yourself without sacrificing too much convenience

Sundance_Kid · 10-01-2016 7:29pm

Hi, what website is cheapest/best quality for supplements? I have used MyProtein before and notice there is a Bulk Powders forum on here also.

Thanks

Dtp1979 · 10-01-2016 8:01pm

Sundance_Kid wrote: »

Hi, what website is cheapest/best quality for supplements? I have used MyProtein before and notice there is a Bulk Powders forum on here also.

Thanks

Price one against the other. They both have sales on daily

power pants · 10-01-2016 9:56pm

Finding SO nutrition isolate whey is giving me really bad farts and making me **** all the time, first time taking this

Used to always go with ph diet or golds

anyone else find the SO nutrition hard to stomach?

Danye · 12-01-2016 1:27pm

What's people's opinions on the quality of the brands - Natures Aid and Solgar?

SpaceCowb0y · 12-01-2016 1:30pm

Danye wrote: »

What's people's opinions on the quality of the brands - Natures Aid and Solgar?

Don't know too much about Natures Aid but Solgar are a well established brand of vitamins & supplements. Quite expensive though.

Tar.Aldarion · 12-01-2016 1:43pm

Danye wrote: »

What's people's opinions on the quality of the brands - Natures Aid and Solgar?

I use Solgars B12 supplements, very cheap and good. (Demonstrated in blood tests)

arayess · 12-01-2016 3:20pm

USN Whey in Lidl - 908g - 21.99

Sugar Free · 12-01-2016 3:58pm

arayess wrote: »

USN Whey in Lidl - 908g - 21.99

Actually pretty poor value compared to (for example) MyProtein, where most flavours work out at the same price for 2200g. I'm sure the convenience factor will be handy for some though.

arayess · 13-01-2016 10:58am

Sugar Free wrote: »

Actually pretty poor value compared to (for example) MyProtein, where most flavours work out at the same price for 2200g. I'm sure the convenience factor will be handy for some though.

jaysus - do you lads ever get off the myprotein/bulk powders soapbox.:(

it's not the same fcuking thing.
It's cheap for USN, that's the comparison.
discount supplements sell this for 29,99 - lidl 21.99
that's the comparison.

It's also 908g not 2200g , bulk buying is 99.9% cheaper cost per unit but it's not a fair comparison.

Plus as you say it's convenient cos one is not paying 5e delivery when one only wants some protein and one only has 22e in their bank,

I use bulk powders myself but i'm fcuked if I'm droning on like some bore to another lad who like branded stuff that my way of life is superior.

you have successfully ruined what should be a happy event.

Yes I have completely overreacted but you mentioned a pet hate of mine which is the smug superiority of bulk powders/myprotein users.

Alf Veedersane · 13-01-2016 11:03am

All he's done is said you can get something cheaper because some people will read it and think "Oh cool. I can get 2 lbs of protein for only €21.99".

It's not smugness. It's trying to be helpful.

arayess · 13-01-2016 11:47am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

All he's done is said you can get something cheaper because some people will read it and think "Oh cool. I can get 2 lbs of protein for only €21.99".

It's not smugness. It's trying to be helpful.

i disagree.
myprotein <> branded stuff.

you can get 2lb of USN 100% whey for 21.99 which is quite cheap.

Alf Veedersane · 13-01-2016 12:16pm

arayess wrote: »

i disagree.
myprotein <> branded stuff.

you can get 2lb of USN 100% whey for 21.99 which is quite cheap.

Not sure what the symbol in bold means but anyway, yeah its cheaper for USN. Someone suggesting a cheaper alternative doesn't have to be smug.

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!

arayess · 13-01-2016 12:23pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Not sure what the symbol in bold means but anyway, yeah its cheaper for USN. Someone suggesting a cheaper alternative doesn't have to be smug.

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!

*
<> is "not equal too" .

No. this is the internet.
it's an internet forum for fitness.

so expect (Hatred) ^ 2

Dtp1979 · 13-01-2016 12:24pm

arayess wrote: »

i disagree.
myprotein <> branded stuff.

you can get 2lb of USN 100% whey for 21.99 which is quite cheap.

25% off all proteins today @ myprotein
Code PROTEIN25

Sugar Free · 13-01-2016 12:26pm

that escalated somewhat quickly!

No smugness intended, I'm surprised it was picked up that way. If people prefer branded stuff or a particular brand, I certainly don't feel I'm superior to them. If their preferred brand is USN and Lidl are offering it cheaper than other sources all the better.

As Alf said I was merely comparing two sources of whey protein of similar quality (I certainly know MyProtein and Bulk Powders are good quality for the price you pay) and mindful that to someone casually reading this thread, there are cheaper options available, should they choose.

It's a valid point about delivery charges but most people I know who order from the 'Big 2' generally order the 5kg/11lb pouches, which is usually enough to get free delivery.

Alf Veedersane · 13-01-2016 12:27pm

arayess wrote: »

*
<> is "not equal too" .

<> ≠ ≠

Hanley · 13-01-2016 12:27pm

When people say "branded whey".... y'all know myprotein is a brand too?!

arayess · 13-01-2016 2:19pm

Sugar Free wrote: »

that escalated somewhat quickly!

No smugness intended, I'm surprised it was picked up that way. If people prefer branded stuff or a particular brand, I certainly don't feel I'm superior to them. If their preferred brand is USN and Lidl are offering it cheaper than other sources all the better.

As Alf said I was merely comparing two sources of whey protein of similar quality (I certainly know MyProtein and Bulk Powders are good quality for the price you pay) and mindful that to someone casually reading this thread, there are cheaper options available, should they choose.

It's a valid point about delivery charges but most people I know who order from the 'Big 2' generally order the 5kg/11lb pouches, which is usually enough to get free delivery.

i know -

you are baring the brunt for the dislike I have of the myprotein gang... you know they type ...can't mention a protein with them mentioning myprotein....kinda like a vegan crossfit animal rights activities.

anyway have a nice day ,i hope we can be friends again.

arayess · 13-01-2016 2:20pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

<> ≠ ≠

maths was beaten into me using "not equal" as "<>"

my keyboard seems to lack the fanciness of yours...although maybe you are on a phone

nonetheless we are where we are.

Alf Veedersane · 13-01-2016 2:38pm

arayess wrote: »

maths was beaten into me using "not equal" as "<>"

my keyboard seems to lack the fanciness of yours...although maybe you are on a phone

nonetheless we are where we are.

Yes, you're at HATRED^2 and I'm at smug^2

Alf Veedersane · 13-01-2016 2:47pm

Hanley wrote: »

When people say "branded whey".... y'all know myprotein is a brand too?!

Actually, saw a couple of Bulkpowders ads up on the Dart yesterday too.

arayess · 13-01-2016 3:09pm

Hanley wrote: »

When people say "branded whey".... y'all know myprotein is a brand too?!

yes indeed.
but is it "branded"? which was the word I used
I'd consider myprotein to be more on par with "shops own" or "generic" brands. of course you may disagree as is your right.

take for example cornflakes.
kellogs are considered branded..tesco's are not.
they are both "brands" and cornflakes. i guess.

sorry to be pedantic....but you brought it up and I do know my food.

the groutch · 13-01-2016 3:51pm

So Arayess, what is the actual difference between USN and MyProtein/Bulkpowders, other than a brand name and some clever marketing?

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