Supplements

kida

cheers, is really cheaper than online though?

rubadub

Some irish stores have "free" shipping, free in quotes since the postage price is included -it really depends on how much you want to get. The place in my signature link has up to 25 or 26kg for £6.95. There is a dedicated sticky thread about supplements at the top of the forum.

dario28

http://www.thesupplementstore.co.uk/

cheap and great deliver times

BlueIsland

Whey Protein shakes. trying to shed 2-3 stone. Do shakes help or deter weight loss??

EileenG

They help if eaten instead of a regular snack or meal. Whey protein is slightly more filling then other protein (so the theory goes) so you should be less likely to overeat.

Whey added to your regular diet will just add extra calories.

The best time to take a whey shake is after a heavy session in the gym. They are also popular as a quick snack meal if you don't have time to cook.

BlueIsland

id rather add extra calories through good source of protein which in long run will help me. would that be right?

EileenG

Any calories, in excess, can result in fat gain. Protein is less likely to pile on flab than chocolate biscuits, but it can happen.

If you replace some of your present non-ideal foods with whey, you should see good results.

Mellor

EileenG wrote: »

Any calories, in excess, can result in fat gain. Protein is less likely to pile on flab than chocolate biscuits, but it can happen.

If you replace some of your present non-ideal foods with whey, you should see good results.

If he cuts them out, he should see better results

Peteemax

Hi Folks,

I am back playing ball for the first time in ten weeks due to cracking 2 ribs. Is the any supplements that i can take to help me along in training and matches for both my energy and fitness. A lad i train with has suggested Xplode. I have never taken anything so i just wanted to get some advice.

Thanks,
Pete

Bodysmart

Ever tried Supergreens? -> http://www.phmiracle.net/

I find them great for upping my energy levels.

Search online for similar "greens" drinks - they are becoming very popular and most companies have a similar type of product in their range.

RichJH

Peteemax wrote: »

Hi Folks,

I am back playing ball for the first time in ten weeks due to cracking 2 ribs. Is the any supplements that i can take to help me along in training and matches for both my energy and fitness. A lad i train with has suggested Xplode. I have never taken anything so i just wanted to get some advice.

Thanks,
Pete

Hi Pete,

Im not a fan of that BSN stuff at all, I find it overpriced and not the best on the market.
It depends what you really want it for. NO-Xplode etc is really for ppl looking to pack on muscle and from your post Im guessing your not the body building type.

I would highly recommend taking a protein supplement (Optimum Nutrition WHEY) coupled with a recovery drink like Ram X by Nutrition X or Cyclone by Maximuscle. That combination will give you greater energy levels, strength and recovery

Colm_OReilly

What's your diet like before you look at supplements?

If its "alright" then sort that out first.

Peteemax

8am cereal bar and a cup of tea
10.00 1 apple 1 pear and a cup of tea
13.00 Campbells soupfulls and a cup of tea
18.00 Training night-brown bread sambo ham salad
18.00 Night off- anything really usually chips and pizza

May have a packet of crisps or two between 21.00 and 12.00am

Since i have went back i have lost 6 pound in the first week.

Pete

dario28

Peteemax wrote: »

8am cereal bar and a cup of tea
10.00 1 apple 1 pear and a cup of tea
13.00 Campbells soupfulls and a cup of tea
18.00 Training night-brown bread sambo ham salad
18.00 Night off- anything really usually chips and pizza

May have a packet of crisps or two between 21.00 and 12.00am

Since i have went back i have lost 6 pound in the first week.

Pete

Brutal diet - not enough good food when training - too much processed food and chips and pizza is just junk

itsallaboutheL

Peteemax wrote: »

8am cereal bar and a cup of tea
10.00 1 apple 1 pear and a cup of tea
13.00 Campbells soupfulls and a cup of tea
18.00 Training night-brown bread sambo ham salad
18.00 Night off- anything really usually chips and pizza

May have a packet of crisps or two between 21.00 and 12.00am

Since i have went back i have lost 6 pound in the first week.

Pete

Nevermind when training this is a brutal diet fullstop... there's about a half a gram of protein in it!!

Peteemax

dario28 wrote: »

Brutal diet - not enough good food when training - too much processed food and chips and pizza is just junk

What would you recommend mate?
Is there any good sites i can get some information from?
Thanks.

dario28

Peteemax wrote: »

What would you recommend mate?
Is there any good sites i can get some information from?
Thanks.

This is roughly mine

Diet on avg would be

Protein is : USN 100% Whey

7am protein shake
bike to work
8am huge bowl of porridge
10:30am fruit
12 soup from canteen generally v.healthy mix of veg freshly made
1pm chicken/tuna salad with roll or baked potato with tuna or chicken..again big helping on the meat side
3pm nuts fruit maybe nutri grain
5pm Cycle to gym
5:30pm protein shake
weights sessions
protein shake
7.30pm Dinner - either fish/chicken with small amts of potatos/pasta/rice and lots of veg always have 1 steak a week and a spag bol - food is never processed
8pm if still hungry then whatever I can find rice pudding or if there is nothing in house protein shake last resort though

prob 2.5L of water throughout day

yourdeadwright

Good afternoon Folks
I go to the gym about 3 days a week and do cardio the other 3 days with football training and games, my problem is even though im fairly fit and lift heavey weights, im quite lean i seem to be finding it hard to get much muscel mass,
Is there any supplements i can take to help, i currently dont take any but i tried protein shakes before i didn't seem to get any bigger and they just gave me a belly (i have good abs,) Just looking for a helping hand to start to build the muscel

Any help would be great

mloc

Peteemax wrote: »

8am cereal bar and a cup of tea
10.00 1 apple 1 pear and a cup of tea
13.00 Campbells soupfulls and a cup of tea
18.00 Training night-brown bread sambo ham salad
18.00 Night off- anything really usually chips and pizza

May have a packet of crisps or two between 21.00 and 12.00am

Since i have went back i have lost 6 pound in the first week.

Pete

That might be the worst diet I've ever seen posted here. Forget about supplements.
Read the stickies, at least twice, and slowly. Then post back.

mloc

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Good afternoon Folks
I go to the gym about 3 days a week and do cardio the other 3 days with football training and games, my problem is even though im fairly fit and lift heavey weights, im quite lean i seem to be finding it hard to get much muscel mass,
Is there any supplements i can take to help, i currently dont take any but i tried protein shakes before i didn't seem to get any bigger and they just gave me a belly (i have good abs,) Just looking for a helping hand to start to build the muscel

Any help would be great

If you want to put on mass, unless you want to do it really slowly, it comes at the cost of putting on a bit of extra fat. There has been extensive debate on this topic recently on this forum, but suffice to say, if you really want to put on mass it's a simple case of eating more. Having a low cal diet and adding a few supplements just won't help.

jambi

Shakes are a supplement. They can be a helpful addition to an already good diet. They won't, by themselves, help or deter weight loss. My advice would be to get your diet in order before thinking about supplements. Consult the stickies for help with that

colman1212

OK I've read so much conflicting information about this at this stage. Do you actually need to do a loading phase with creatine?? and if so what kind of loading phase?

itsallaboutheL

colman1212 wrote: »

OK I've read so much conflicting information about this at this stage. Do you actually need to do a loading phase with creatine?? and if so what kind of loading phase?

Not necessarily :pac:

You're going to reach a saturation point eventually either way

colman1212

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Not necessarily :pac:

You're going to reach a saturation point eventually either way

so just stick with 5 or 10 grams a day basically?

How about 5 grams on non work out days and 10 grams on workout days or should you take the same amount every day?

xavier19

just watch what you mix your whey with. sometime juices (because or acidity) can really wreck your stomach. trust me i had an insufferable stomach pain once after i blended some blueberries and melon. now i stick to mixing it with water.

may not taste as nice but after a few weeks when i looked in the mirror, now that was nice!

ACTUALLY DOING EXERCISE MAKES A HUGE IMPROVEMENT

TrueMass

colman1212 wrote: »

so just stick with 5 or 10 grams a day basically?

How about 5 grams on non work out days and 10 grams on workout days or should you take the same amount every day?

6g per day is more then enough training or non training. 3g per serving. Get good quality Creapure or a blend with it in it.

corkcomp

jambi wrote: »

Shakes are a supplement. They can be a helpful addition to an already good diet. They won't, by themselves, help or deter weight loss. My advice would be to get your diet in order before thinking about supplements. Consult the stickies for help with that

+1

G-Money

Am wondering about this myself. I'm trying to lose between 6 and 7 stone and I take a protein shake after my gym workouts. Im just wondering if I should both and maybe I should just skip it?

My diet has been posted in the fitness log section.

corkcomp

grandmaster wrote: »

Am wondering about this myself. I'm trying to lose between 6 and 7 stone and I take a protein shake after my gym workouts. Im just wondering if I should both and maybe I should just skip it?

My diet has been posted in the fitness log section.

I would say drop the shake .. if you are lifting heavy you will have a large energy requirement which will have to be met from somewhere, and this can come from fat stores, even though not everybody will agree with this statement ..

star.chaser

BlueIsland wrote: »

Whey Protein shakes. trying to shed 2-3 stone. Do shakes help or deter weight loss??

protein is associated more with building muscle than losing weight.

reduced calorie intake + increased exercise = weight loss

start with small things like low fat milk instead of normal, taking the stairs instead of lifts, etc, etc, or for faster weight loss, join a gym.