Supplements

LovetohateTV

Hi all, im new to taking supplements and i just picked up some Pro Power Pure Creatine Monohydrate and Pro Power weight gainer from Argos on sale. Firstly it says i should only take 1 teaspoon (3-5g) of the pure creatine per day and dont exceed that but then ive read for your first week you should be taking (20-30g). Is this true? ive already noticed my strenght has improved when im benching and ive already moved up to much heavier weights i bought. Also will the weight gainer actually work for me? im a pretty commited guy and i'll always try work out every morning for 1 hour so i will put the work in! im just under 6ft and weigh between 11.5 and 12 stone and ive already noticed im closer now to 12stone..im looking to move up to around 12.5 stone. Any advice on the creatine at all would be welcome! ive upped my weights and ive all ready noticed some improvent but im still very new to supplements and any advice would be great thanks!

Dean820

Satan Polaroid wrote: »

I think it's Maximuscle that's sold in Argos?

I wouldn't go near it, to be honest. In my experience, it tends to put on 'love-handles'!

Where's the best place to buy?

Thanks for the quick response btw.

ConfusedFella

Hi everyone,

This is my first ever post on Boards, so if this is done wrong somehow, please be kind...

Strangely enough, I don't have an address at the moment (my landlady fupped up big time), and I was looking to buy some whey protein, as I'm trying to build some muscle mass. Don't worry, I know all about eating big, lifting big etc., and I'm committed to it too.

So my question is - where's the shop (as opposed to online store) where I can get the best whey protein (price and quality-wise)?

I see Argos are doing a bit in this department - am I right to feel apprehensive about buying it from them?

I appreciate any reply - you all know better than myself, I would imagine.

Cheers.

joepenguin

ConfusedFella wrote: »

Hi everyone,

This is my first ever post on Boards, so if this is done wrong somehow, please be kind...

Strangely enough, I don't have an address at the moment (my landlady fupped up big time), and I was looking to buy some whey protein, as I'm trying to build some muscle mass. Don't worry, I know all about eating big, lifting big etc., and I'm committed to it too.

So my question is - where's the shop (as opposed to online store) where I can get the best whey protein (price and quality-wise)?

I see Argos are doing a bit in this department - am I right to feel apprehensive about buying it from them?

I appreciate any reply - you all know better than myself, I would imagine.

Cheers.

Where do you live?

I havent looked at the supplements in the argos catalogue for ages but I think they do york supplements? and maximuscle. Wouldnt be my first choice to be honest.

Jimmy Bottlehead

If in Dublin, you can get them off:

ProNutrition (Phibsboro)

Nutrition Connection (Capel St)

Supplement Store (Camden St)

There's also a nutrition store in Swords, thats related to NC

Or else just get it delivered to work or to a friends house?

York stuff... never heard anything good about it. Same for Maximuscle.

ConfusedFella

God can't believe I left out where I live... pretty essential in the context me thinks!:o

Yeah, it's Dublin, thanks for the advice and list guys... that was really quick! I'll have to have a look around those shops you listed jimmy.

Thanks again for the quick advice, it's really appreciated when you're starting out at this.:D

Cheers.

BaZmO*

6stringmaniac wrote: »

Also I heard that they can lead to things like stress and mood swings

I'd say that the people that told you that were referring to steroids rather supplements. Bad advice like that is normally borne from ignorance.

dave-smith

LovetohateTV wrote: »

Hi all, im new to taking supplements and i just picked up some Pro Power Pure Creatine Monohydrate and Pro Power weight gainer from Argos on sale. Firstly it says i should only take 1 teaspoon (3-5g) of the pure creatine per day and dont exceed that but then ive read for your first week you should be taking (20-30g). Is this true? ive already noticed my strenght has improved when im benching and ive already moved up to much heavier weights i bought. Also will the weight gainer actually work for me? im a pretty commited guy and i'll always try work out every morning for 1 hour so i will put the work in! im just under 6ft and weigh between 11.5 and 12 stone and ive already noticed im closer now to 12stone..im looking to move up to around 12.5 stone. Any advice on the creatine at all would be welcome! ive upped my weights and ive all ready noticed some improvent but im still very new to supplements and any advice would be great thanks!

Hi mate this might sound stupid i have just got the same creatine but on the tub it dosn't state how much or what to take with it. just wondering what you do.

BaZmO*

dave-smith wrote: »

Hi mate this might sound stupid i have just got the same creatine but on the tub it dosn't state how much or what to take with it. just wondering what you do.

Do you really need to take it?

LovetohateTV

dave-smith wrote: »

Hi mate this might sound stupid i have just got the same creatine but on the tub it dosn't state how much or what to take with it. just wondering what you do.

Hi yeah! yeah i was wondering the same so i set up a new thread called "Can anyone advise me, please" the guys gave some great answer so just check that out!

BuyingorSelling

So what supplement should a footbaler take who has to do cardio 2 times a week but also does strenght training 2-3times a week also in order to maintain weight or get slightly bigger

yomchi

dave-smith wrote: »

Hi mate this might sound stupid i have just got the same creatine but on the tub it dosn't state how much or what to take with it. just wondering what you do.

Usually between 5 and 10 grams a day. Which is a heaped table spoon if i'm right?

opr

Just starting using whey for the first time today. God does it get easier to take after the first few times it has the most vile after-taste !!

Opr

Pro-Nutrition

opr wrote: »

Just starting using whey for the first time today. God does it get easier to take after the first few times it has the most vile after-taste !!

Opr

Hi there, What brand are you using?

opr

Pro-Nutrition wrote: »

Hi there, What brand are you using?

Its the stuff they had in aldi for sale last week. "Sports lab whey protein".

From a bit of research on other sites it seems to be good quailty stuff at a cheap price but most have found it not very nice to drink. To hell with as long as i get the protein and can keep it down its all good

Opr

Marathon Man

Hi all. Just a few questions. I'm a middle distance runner who runs most days combined with 3 days of gym work per week. My diet is pretty good but recently I've been contemplating taking a supplement. I've been looking at a few and have a few questions:
Would it be sufficient to just take whey before and after my gym workouts?
Should I take it after running?
If Whey what whey? I was looking at either Optimum Nutrition or Nutrition x's Big Whey.
How about nutrition x's explode II before weights and RAM afterwards?
Would Creatine make a difference?
As a runner I need to have the optimum power to weight ratio so could whey protein add unwanted weight?
Finally: How much difference could a protein supplement make to my times and lifting ability?

Thanks for reading. I apologise for my naivness. I appreciate your patience and look forward to your replies.

Thank you.

Dr4gul4

What about good ZMA, i find it great for sleeping after the gym, i'd be exhausted and sleep like there's no tomorrow, however i find it expensive and tough to get good reviews.

Would anybody like to recommend some ?

dave80

Jon wrote: »

Usually between 5 and 10 grams a day. Which is a heaped table spoon if i'm right?

Tea Spoon, id say a table spoon would be about 20-25 grams :eek:

Pro-Nutrition

Marathon Man wrote: »

Hi all. Just a few questions. I'm a middle distance runner who runs most days combined with 3 days of gym work per week. My diet is pretty good but recently I've been contemplating taking a supplement. I've been looking at a few and have a few questions:
Would it be sufficient to just take whey before and after my gym workouts?
Should I take it after running?
If Whey what whey? I was looking at either Optimum Nutrition or Nutrition x's Big Whey.
How about nutrition x's explode II before weights and RAM afterwards?
Would Creatine make a difference?
As a runner I need to have the optimum power to weight ratio so could whey protein add unwanted weight?
Finally: How much difference could a protein supplement make to my times and lifting ability?

Thanks for reading. I apologise for my naivness. I appreciate your patience and look forward to your replies.

Thank you.

To be honest with you, you would need some carbs prior to weight for energy unless you are up to your eyes with the likes of Vapor, Explode or something like that. I personally would go with the Optimum 100% Whey or have a look at Syntha6 from BSN. Now regarding the RAM, I have to say that I would find that to be a great product, you will find that you will start to recover faster and best of all you wont be as sore the next day. So I would recommend getting some RAM into you, my favorite flavor would be Strawberry. Protein won’t make a difference to your times or lifting but it’s important to include.. Basically Protein will help you recover and build lean muscle without fat

Marathon Man

Pro-Nutrition wrote: »

To be honest with you, you would need some carbs prior to weight for energy unless you are up to your eyes with the likes of Vapor, Explode or something like that. I personally would go with the Optimum 100% Whey or have a look at Syntha6 from BSN. Now regarding the RAM, I have to say that I would find that to be a great product, you will find that you will start to recover faster and best of all you wont be as sore the next day. So I would recommend getting some RAM into you, my favorite flavor would be Strawberry. Protein won’t make a difference to your times or lifting but it’s important to include.. Basically Protein will help you recover and build lean muscle without fat

Cool. So I should take some Optimum whey before my workouts and RAM afterwards? Should I take both in the same quantity on running only days? There are no probs with taking the 2 on the same day?

Pro-Nutrition

Marathon Man wrote: »

Cool. So I should take some Optimum whey before my workouts and RAM afterwards? Should I take both in the same quantity on running only days? There are no probs with taking the 2 on the same day?

Taking Whey prior to training yes, but you also need carbs for energy. After training get the RAM into you but will also need to take in some protein. Again on running days get carbs in before you start running

djtechnics1210

Is Viper any good lads and what exactly will it do for me???
Taking supplement factory Whey atm before i go training (gaa, twice a week) and before i do weight training in gym (2 days a week) weight training is not a big workout, usually just a couple of free weights at low weight for longer, and sometimes before match at weekends but thats all im taking.
Problem is that im finding myself getting soarer and finding it harder to recover, any ideas on something i can take for recovery.
Should i take something else instead of Whey.

rubadub

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

Does anybody have any experience with MyProtein.co.uk by the way?

Hanley wrote: »

A lot of english lads that post on powerliftinguk.com have a 5% discount code in their sig for myprotein which you should check out,

I just ordered from www.myprotein.co.uk so will let you know how I get on. I think the 5% discount is for the first order only. My code is MP99441 I get some referral points or something.

I got 5% off my order using a boards members code.

brianthebard

djtechnics1210 wrote: »

Is Viper any good lads and what exactly will it do for me???
Taking supplement factory Whey atm before i go training (gaa, twice a week) and before i do weight training in gym (2 days a week) weight training is not a big workout, usually just a couple of free weights at low weight for longer, and sometimes before match at weekends but thats all im taking.
Problem is that im finding myself getting soarer and finding it harder to recover, any ideas on something i can take for recovery.
Should i take something else instead of Whey.

You might be better served having a good meal an hour or so before training, and having the whey afterwards.

BuyingorSelling

Hi Guys, just wondering has anyone tried proform from Educohealth which you can get from the Tony Quinn outlets. Its a casein protein. It says is less fattening on the tub?Any thoughts?

Jimmy Bottlehead

BuyingorSelling wrote: »

Hi Guys, just wondering has anyone tried proform from Educohealth which you can get from the Tony Quinn outlets. Its a casein protein. It says is less fattening on the tub?Any thoughts?

TQ = Crap.

ronbyrne2005

Dr4gul4 wrote: »

What about good ZMA, i find it great for sleeping after the gym, i'd be exhausted and sleep like there's no tomorrow, however i find it expensive and tough to get good reviews.

Would anybody like to recommend some ?

ZMA was developed by Balco (who were major steroid providers/dealers/advisors) so not sure if publications about it's claimed benefits are true. Do you really find it helps sleep or could it be placebo?

rubadub

BuyingorSelling wrote: »

Hi Guys, just wondering has anyone tried proform from Educohealth which you can get from the Tony Quinn outlets. Its a casein protein. It says is less fattening on the tub?Any thoughts?

It is very overpriced. Mixing normal whey with milk can mimic the slowed down absorption rates of casein. Also this means you can buy just whey in bulk, rather than a 2 small tubs of whey & casein.

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

ZMA was developed by Balco (who were major steroid providers/dealers/advisors) so not sure if publications about it's claimed benefits are true. Do you really find it helps sleep or could it be placebo?

I do get sleepy on it. It definitely has some hormonal effects since I always get spots about 2 days after using it, and it is a total shock since I never get spots usually!

BuyingorSelling

rubadub wrote: »

It is very overpriced. Mixing normal whey with milk can mimic the slowed down absorption rates of casein. Also this means you can buy just whey in bulk, rather than a 2 small tubs of whey & casein.

It states on the container that it contains 0% Whey.

Dr4gul4

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

ZMA was developed by Balco (who were major steroid providers/dealers/advisors) so not sure if publications about it's claimed benefits are true. Do you really find it helps sleep or could it be placebo?

I have to say i do find it does help, it's a much deeper sleep.

yomchi

BuyingorSelling wrote: »

rubadub wrote: »

It is very overpriced. Mixing normal whey with milk can mimic the slowed down absorption rates of casein. Also this means you can buy just whey in bulk, rather than a 2 small tubs of whey & casein.

It states on the container that it contains 0% Whey.

Thats because it's a pure casein protein powder.

Quinn doesn't rate whey at all.

rubadub

BuyingorSelling wrote: »

rubadub wrote: »

It is very overpriced. Mixing normal whey with milk can mimic the slowed down absorption rates of casein. Also this means you can buy just whey in bulk, rather than a 2 small tubs of whey & casein.
It states on the container that it contains 0% Whey.

Jon wrote: »

Thats because it's a pure casein protein powder.

Yep. The 2 most popular protein supplements are probably whey and casein. Some might contain a mixture of the 2.

Whey is quickly absorbed so people tend to take it right after a workout. While casein is slowly absorbed so people will take it at night to get a "feed" during your sleep.

But mixing regular whey with milk will also slow down absorption and so slow down absorption, but it is much cheaper than casein.

city4life

city4life wrote: »

are there risks

and is it necessary to take two shakes a day if one has a good diet anyway

i was doing weights five times a week if possible, i'm told this may be too much? suits me cause i can concentrate on my running!!

SUPPLEMENTS are there to SUPPLEMENT your diet. If you are getting the required amounts of protein from your diet then you don't need protein shakes (unless straight after the gym).

Doing weights 5 times a week is fine (if you have the time) once your fit enough to do it and once you are splitting up all the body parts. Beginners shouldn't do it obviously as it's not necessary. They will get better gains (if strength is your goal) from starting off on the big compounds and then working from there. It obviously all depends on what your goals are.

jimmay

Pro-Nutrition wrote: »

Taking Whey prior to training yes, but you also need carbs for energy. After training get the RAM into you but will also need to take in some protein. Again on running days get carbs in before you start running

Feel like such a newb (which I'm not :P) but what is RAM?

Also I am considering taking a fish oil supplement. I know there is a difference between Omega 3,6 and 9 and I can't remember what it is. Which one is generally reccommended to take that your body doesn't normally get enough of because I know if you take too much of another it can be detrimental?

arse..biscuits

Hi all, I've never taken any supplements and I'm only starting to do weights with any kind of seriousness recently, basically I want to buy some whey and no clue what is good value and whats rip off. Can someone give me a link to a tried a tested good value seller. Thanks

Satan Polaroid

I've started taking Reflex Whey Protein.

It's actually quite tasty :eek:

BuyingorSelling

arse..biscuits wrote: »

Hi all, I've never taken any supplements and I'm only starting to do weights with any kind of seriousness recently, basically I want to buy some whey and no clue what is good value and whats rip off. Can someone give me a link to a tried a tested good value seller. Thanks

Im only new to it myself but started taking cassein protein from Tony Quinn a week ago. 1 KG cost €42.

Heard TQ is crap though (see above comments). Sorry dont know what to look out for etc

BSN Syntha 6, IDS and Optimum Nutrition whey would be my tried and tested methods that I'm satisfied with. I love BSN as after a while I find whey shakes difficult to drink so the BSN stuff is brilliant as it tastes amazing. If you like coffee, go for the mochacinno flavour

arse..biscuits

Deleted User wrote: »

BSN Syntha 6, IDS and Optimum Nutrition whey would be my tried and tested methods that I'm satisfied with. I love BSN as after a while I find whey shakes difficult to drink so the BSN stuff is brilliant as it tastes amazing. If you like coffee, go for the mochacinno flavour

Where do you buy from, I hear the ol internets is the way to go?

Obviously yeah, it's way cheaper. If you're looking to buy over 100 euro of stuff, I'd check out bodybuilding.com (great shipping and never been charged customs or anything stopped etc) otherwise I'd use universalnutrition.ie or nutritionconnection.ie but there are more as well the lads can give you here.

Degsy

Deleted User wrote: »

Obviously yeah, it's way cheaper. If you're looking to buy over 100 euro of stuff, I'd check out bodybuilding.com (great shipping and never been charged customs or anything stopped etc) otherwise I'd use universalnutrition.ie or nutritionconnection.ie but there are more as well the lads can give you here.

Stuff is routinley impounded by customs coming from that site,they're checking for steroids and banned substances so you can expect delays.

billyhead

Deleted User wrote: »

BSN Syntha 6, IDS and Optimum Nutrition whey would be my tried and tested methods that I'm satisfied with. I love BSN as after a while I find whey shakes difficult to drink so the BSN stuff is brilliant as it tastes amazing. If you like coffee, go for the mochacinno flavour

Dymatize whey protein is good. High protein value per scoop and low in Carbs. I would recommend the butter toffee flavour. I am using this at the moment. Mixed with Milk and it tastes very very nice.

Degsy

Degsy wrote: »

Stuff is routinley impounded by customs coming from that site,they're checking for steroids and banned substances so you can expect delays.

I have never been delayed and I've ordered about 5 or 6 times from them in the past 8 months.

maradona10

where can i buy reflex protein or is there a better brand at the moment. i used to buy it in workoutworld but its closed

ive tried eas since and didnt find it too good

ronbyrne2005

maradona10 wrote: »

where can i buy reflex protein or is there a better brand at the moment. i used to buy it in workoutworld but its closed

ive tried eas since and didnt find it too good

I ordered from uk from this site
http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/shopdisplaydeals.asp?dealtype=mix002&referrer=specials

Quick delivery, and free delivery with order over 200pound. Basically half the price of buying from an irish shop due to cheap sterling etc. ~Stock up with 200quid of stuff and it'll do you many months.

Satan Polaroid

maradona10 wrote: »

where can i buy reflex protein or is there a better brand at the moment. i used to buy it in workoutworld but its closed

ive tried eas since and didnt find it too good

Fitnessireland.ie

ronbyrne2005

Satan Polaroid wrote: »

Fitnessireland.ie

I used to use that site but it's half the price if you order in from the uk . That site doesnt seem to have lowered it's prices in line with sterling collapse.

floggg

I am considering starting using protein shakes for the first time - a whey protein shake on weight training days only.

Two quick questions:

1. Currently trying to lose a bit of weight - provided my diet is otherwise good, and get plenty of exercise, should there be any negative impact?

2. If training after work, is a protein shake and a banana after training (round 8o clock) sufficient for the evening, or should i still have something to eat when i get home?

ronbyrne2005

floggg wrote: »

I am considering starting using protein shakes for the first time - a whey protein shake on weight training days only.

Two quick questions:

1. Currently trying to lose a bit of weight - provided my diet is otherwise good, and get plenty of exercise, should there be any negative impact?

2. If training after work, is a protein shake and a banana after training (round 8o clock) sufficient for the evening, or should i still have something to eat when i get home?

No negative impact, protein shakes are quite low in calories.

Again if training after work, you should have a proper dinner at some stage . Shakes are just a supplement to real food , real food is most important component of your lifestyle.

floggg

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

No negative impact, protein shakes are quite low in calories.

Again if training after work, you should have a proper dinner at some stage . Shakes are just a supplement to real food , real food is most important component of your lifestyle.

Thanks.