Digiweb Metro adding wireless router

theblaahead

Hi all,
I recently moved into a house which has digiweb metro broadband installed in it. We want to share this connection between everyone in the house. The modem is installed in the master bedroom and the person staying there uses it connected directly to her ethernet port. We got a Belkin Wireless Ethernet Bridge 54mbps http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=322324&view=detailed
to use with it.
This is configured properly as far as i can see as we can all use the connection wirelessly however when the other person connects into the wired ports on the back it doesn't work and stops the wireless part from being used.
Any ideas.

Foxwood

theblaahead wrote:

This is configured properly as far as i can see as we can all use the connection wirelessly however when the other person connects into the wired ports on the back it doesn't work and stops the wireless part from being used.
Any ideas.

Is the wired connection using a static IP address that's conflicting with the router somehow? I don't think that there's any client software used to "log in" to Metro, but if there is, that could be the problem.

Or it could simply be that the Belkin is a POS!

theblaahead

the desktop is configured for dhcp and gets an ip address from the proper range of the wireless router - 192.168.2.* so i don't think its an ip conflict. The router gets the proper ip address from the modem aswell it just seems like it can't share out the wired connection properly. Can't make any sense of it. I think the easiest thing may be to get a pci wireless card for the desktop and allow all the house to use the wireless connection.

watty

There is no logon.

The Belkin should have a separate ethernet port not part of line of ordinary ports, if not it is not an Ethernet router. What you describe sounds like an ADSL router and the metro modem simply plugged into one of the ordinary Ethernet ports.

You can only use a Router with NO ADSL on it. Linksys, Netgear and Dlink all make models identical to the the ADSL versions with ADSL port replaced by a SEPARTE RJ45 ethernet WAN port.

I don't recommend Belkin. I have never seen a non-ADSL "Ethernet WAN" Belkin router but they may exist.

Unless a router has a separate WAN ethernet port it won't work for ANY non-ASDL service (Ripwave, Breeze, Metro, NTL cable and ISDN Ethernet TA etc). A router with a separate WAN ethernet port can ONLY use ADSL via a separate ADSL modem.

The product you bought is an Ethernet bridge. It does not route at all. It simply connects two ethernets together.
They are really ment to be sold in pairs and then a pair of PS2s or Xboxs can network game wirelessly.

Foxwood

watty wrote:

The product you bought is an Ethernet bridge. It does not route at all. It simply connects two ethernets together.
They are really ment to be sold in pairs and then a pair of PS2s or Xboxs can network game wirelessly.

Good catch - the thing only has one RJ45 port, so plugging in a PC and the wireless modem at the same time would be a bit difficult .

While you could spend €25 for a wireless adapter for the PC, you'd be far, far better off buying a proper wireless router for an additional €20 and selling the thing you've got to make up the difference.

(And Belkin do make non-ADSL equipment, but as a general rule of thumb, avoid Belkin - you'll be happier in the long run).

kippy

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=306148
Something like the above would be what you need-although I think you can get it for slightly less in PC World at the moment.
Kippy

theblaahead

sorry guys forgive my stupidy, that link i gave to komplett is not the device i have, i have this one, its a Belkin Wireless Cable/DSL Router http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=136493#. I have had plenty of problems with Belkin before myself, our landlady actually came back with the router from pc world, they told her it would work grand.
So seeing this can you see any reason why the wired part doesn't work.
thanks for all your help

jor el

So when a computer is connected in to one of the ethernet ports nothing at all works, the wired and wireless parts, is this right? If so, make sure the cable connecting the router to the PC is a straight through cable and not cross over. Some devices automatically detect the type of cable, but I have a Belkin router too and it doesn't.

theblaahead

yeah thats right nothing works when the pc is connected. i've got a straight-through cable here in work so ill give it a go at home later. thanks

watty

Yes it is a DSL router. It only routes the DSL port, there is NO ethernet WAN port.

As mentioned earlier you need a NON_dsl router, the ADSL port is replaced with a SEPARATE ethernet "WAN" port. The model you have will never act as a router on ANY NON-dsl services.

Nothing to do with cable type. The Cable Modem will only hand out one IP address. That why yoy need a router. That product all the Ethernet ports are part of same network. No WAN ethernet port.

Foxwood

watty wrote:

Yes it is a DSL router. It only routes the DSL port, there is NO ethernet WAN port.

The F5D7230-4 isn't a DSL router.

watty

Why the OP call it a DSL Router?

Maybe not plugging the ethernet into WAN socket then.

Foxwood

watty wrote:

Why the OP call it a DSL Router?

He called it a "Cable/DSL Router" - in other words, a broadband router.

Maybe not plugging the ethernet into WAN socket then.

Could be. Someone said recently that you can have 3 devices plugged into an NTL modem, so if the cable connection was plugged into a LAN port instead of the WAN port, it's possible that the device is just being used as a LAN switch, rather than a router. And when the PC plugs in as well, there are too many things connected for everything to work.