The God Delusion - Richard Dawkins (Interview)

nitrogen

Great interview with the man.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/5372458.stm

stereoroid

Indeed. On the BBC Newsnight comments page there are something like 750 comments, some frankly inarticulate. I plan to get the book and display it on my desk at work.

A lot of believers are picking up on his last sentence, "we weren't put here to be comfortable", as if it was some acknowledgment that his existence was part of some "plan" and invalidates everything he's saying. Well, he's allowed to make the occasional verbal faux-pas, and if you ask me "who put me here", I say "my parents did, and I know exactly how they did it, too"! :cool:

5uspect

Started reading the book last night, very good so far. Its definately something everyone should read before they pass judgement.

Schuhart

stereoroid wrote:

A lot of believers are picking up on his last sentence, "we weren't put here to be comfortable", as if it was some acknowledgment that his existence was part of some "plan" and invalidates everything he's saying.

Maybe they should reflect on PJ O'Rourke's comment that 'If God wanted us to spend time in Church he'd have given us bigger asses to sit on and smaller brains to think with.'

robindch

'If God wanted us to spend time in Church..." Here's some more bumper-sticker wisdom:

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BTW, the Irish Skeptics have invited Dawkins to speak at next year's European Skeptics' Conference here in Dublin. Will keep people posted as to progress, if any.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

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rofl

omfg... that's the funniest thing I've seen in the past seven minutes.

excellent

robindch

The lads in Trinity Church Network (one of the larger evengelical outfits in Ireland), have blown the dust off some old red-blooded anti-Dawkins stuff they had lying around and posted it:

http://www.trinity.ie/DreamCMS/ARTI_.php?TID=ARTI_RICHARDDAWKINSATHEISTCRUSADER

Zombrex

robindch wrote:

The lads in Trinity Church Network (one of the larger evengelical outfits in Ireland), have blown the dust off some old red-blooded anti-Dawkins stuff they had lying around and posted it:

http://www.trinity.ie/DreamCMS/ARTI_.php?TID=ARTI_RICHARDDAWKINSATHEISTCRUSADER

It is the usual attack rather than respond that one finds all the time with religious types who are under increasing pressure to try and figure out a way to adapt their religious beliefs into the scientific nature of modern society.

Before hand of course they didn't have to, they were in control. Now science is in control. So you get the rather baffling sight of religious types attempting to show that in fact their religious does work inside a scientific frame work. And when they can't do that they simply attack those who point this out. Look at the Creationist thread

Dave!

Wicknight wrote:

It is the usual attack rather than respond that one finds all the time with religious types who are under increasing pressure to try and figure out a way to adapt their religious beliefs into the scientific nature of modern society.

Before hand of course they didn't have to, they were in control. Now science is in control. So you get the rather baffling sight of religious types attempting to show that in fact their religious does work inside a scientific frame work. And when they can't do that they simply attack those who point this out. Look at the Creationist thread

Amen to that.

woops

Dades

robindch wrote:

The lads in Trinity Church Network (one of the larger evengelical outfits in Ireland), have blown the dust off some old red-blooded anti-Dawkins stuff they had lying around and posted it:

http://www.trinity.ie/DreamCMS/ARTI_.php?TID=ARTI_RICHARDDAWKINSATHEISTCRUSADER

I was already in a bad mood this morning and that article has make things worse.

Take this quote:

As Michael Poole points out, 'If the universe doesn't need a designer, why should [Dawkins] claim that God needs one?'

It's infuriatingly contradictory.

Dawkins says the universe doesn't need a designer. Theists say it does. So Dawkins says if you believe the universe requires a designer, then why does god not need one? Dawkins doesn't believe in god - he is pointing out a contradition to those who would require a designer. Grrr.

However I can see how Dawkins' "religion is a virus" attitude prompts responses like this.

I bought "The God Delusion" yesterday but I'm too frazzled to start it yet.

Dave!

Gonna head over the Square and buy it today

Tar.Aldarion

How much is it actually?
May pop over today and buy it if my student pockets can afford it.
See if it says anything interesting.

Dades

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

How much is it actually?

I only know it's €16.99 from Hodges Figgis on Dawson Street.

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

See if it says anything interesting.

It might enlighten you as to the only logical viewpoint.

Tar.Aldarion

The Atheist wrote:

I only know it's €16.99 from Hodges Figgis on Dawson Street.

I'll just pop up on the 40e train to dublin and get it.

Thanks for the price.

It might enlighten you as to the only logical viewpoint.

I would like to have words with this Dawkins character.
I think I could boost alatrist numbers.

Dave!

€15 in Eason's in the Square. I've read to about page 50, tis quite good so far My first Dawkins book to read

joseph brand

Religion is 'profligate wastefulness', and an 'extravagant display of baroque uselessness.'[6] It is 'plain insanity or surrealist nonsense.'

Dawkins.

How can he say this? Just look at the plain walls of Vatican City. The church is not into money, treasures or riches of any type.

From here:
https://trinity.ie/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=1

Zillah

joseph brand wrote: »

Dawkins.

How can he say this? Just look at the plain walls of Vatican City. The church is not into money, treasures or riches of any type.

From here:
https://trinity.ie/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=1

Oh hello 2006, it's been so very long, hasn't it?

Dades

And the sad thing is the same losers are still posting here! :pac: