Latest Spain squad (Raul dropped)

gustavo

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=382423&cc=4716

Spain captain Raul was dropped from the national side for the first time in 10 years for reasons other than injury on Friday when he was left out for next week's Euro 2008 qualifier away to Sweden.

MrJoeSoap

Wonder is the actual reasoning similar to Van Bastens behind dropping Ruud van Nisterooy? i.e. - Building a team for the future etc...

Thats quite a small squad, only two stikers??

gustavo

himself Beckham and Van Nistelrooy can have a good bitching session now at training about their national bosses.

kinaldo

Amazing Aragones has not been sacked yet

gustavo

AFAIK the only match he has lost is the France WC game and the NI game so it would be a bit hasty to sack him

MrJoeSoap

Think he means "amazing" in a different sense! The guy is slightly outspoken!

kinaldo

gustavo wrote:

AFAIK the only match he has lost is the France WC game and the NI game so it would be a bit hasty to sack him

Yeah 'only' lol. Anyway, he also lost to Portugal in Euro 04 and failed to make it out of their group. Spain will not progress with that outspoken dinosaur in charge.

zAbbo

He offered his resignation after the NI defeat, but it was turned down.

He's a hero in Spain, and rightly so.

Guy:Incognito

zabbo wrote:

He's a hero in Spain, and rightly so.

Because of all the success he's brought them......................?

zAbbo

because of his status as a player and manager in Spain...

Guy:Incognito

My point was, that regardless of someones past, if they arent up to scratch then it's counter productive to let them carry on .

mike65

The guy is a racist div!

Mike.

zAbbo

Stekelly wrote:

My point was, that regardless of someones past, if they arent up to scratch then it's counter productive to let them carry on .

Feel free to offer names of the alternatives...

The 'racist' incident got blown hugely out of proportion, not that Spain are the most PC of races.

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Good to see he's dropped Joaquin, and brought in Angulo

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gustavo

kinaldo wrote:

Yeah 'only' lol. Anyway, he also lost to Portugal in Euro 04 and failed to make it out of their group. Spain will not progress with that outspoken dinosaur in charge.

He wasnt the manager then
I believe they are on a definite upward spiral with probably the best group of young players of any nation in the world.

MrJoeSoap

Only a matter of time before he moves on I'd say! The guy sure does get around! Been at Athletico Madrid on 4 seperate occasions...

kinaldo

gustavo wrote:

He wasnt the manager then
I believe they are on a definite upward spiral with probably the best group of young players of any nation in the world.

Oh yeah that's right Iñaki Sáez was in charge then. Either way I've seen and followed Spain closely enough to be convinced that he's not up to the job. According to Marca polls most of the Spanish fans feels that way too.

kinaldo

zabbo wrote:

He offered his resignation after the NI defeat, but it was turned down.

He definitely offered his resignation after the World Cup and had it turned down - the general consensus amongst the Spanish was that he was unlucky against France. I believe opinion has changed dramatically since then and am unaware of any resignation on his part after the NI defeat. I'm pretty sure he came out fighting actually.

MrJoeSoap

kinaldo wrote:

He definitely offered his resignation after the World Cup and had it turned down - the general consensus amongst the Spanish was that he was unlucky against France. I believe opinion has changed dramatically since then and am unaware of any resignation on his part after the NI defeat. I'm pretty sure he came out fighting actually.

http://www.soccerway.com/news/2006/September/11/aragones-offered-to-quit-spain-refuses/

kinaldo

MrJoeSoap wrote:

http://www.soccerway.com/news/2006/September/11/aragones-offered-to-quit-spain-refuses/

Fair play to him I guess, at least HE realises that he's not up to it.