Changing Speedo from MPH to KMPH?

Moanin

Have 2005 English Passat (New Model) with MPH on the speedo and want to change it to KPH speedo.Is it possible to change speedo and how much?

Want to change it for resale reasons

Thanks

Fey!

Open up the speedo and clip the needle so that it only reaches kph???

Seriously, keep an eye on the scrapyards for a crashed Passat.

crosstownk

You can get the job done in a main dealer but it'll cost a bit - more than €500. Given your car is fairly new, you'd be best off getting it done at amain dealer. There are different dash inserts for different models depending on the level of spec your Passat has. Swapping one from a scrapped car is not as straight forward as it sounds. It will fit but you may not have access to all the functions. A VW dealer will code the dash unit to your Passats ECU. Also bear in mind that your Passat is still under warranty.

Finally, in a VW the immobiliser is in the dash insert so if you swap one from a scrapper you will need to have the immobiliser recoded to your keys before the car will start again.

Fey!

my bad. Thanks for the correction.

Mr.Diagnostic

Hi,

It is very easy to do this, just a simple matter of recoding the cluster.

HTH

Moanin

Mr.Diagnostic wrote:

Hi,

It is very easy to do this, just a simple matter of recoding the cluster.

HTH

Thanks but I need to pysically take out the speedo with the MPH and replace it with a KPH only speedo.

Thanks to all for your input

Mr.Diagnostic

Moanin wrote:

Thanks but I need to pysically take out the speedo with the MPH and replace it with a KPH only speedo.

Thanks to all for your input

Hi,

Sorry, I thought that was a given.
If you fit a cluster with the face in KM then it is just a matter of recoding it. The immob is in the cluster, as mentioned by someone above, but that can be recoded too. A good diagnostic specialist should be able to do this.
As far as I am aware a dealer will not fit and code anything but new parts, not sure about that though, probably depends on the dealer. There is a secret login code required for this that the dealer cannot/will not give out but this can be read from the immob unit. The engine ECU, cluster and keys all must be coded.

colm_mcm

I'd be very suspicious of an imported Passat where the speedo was interfered with.

crosstownk

Mr.Diagnostic wrote:

As far as I am aware a dealer will not fit and code anything but new parts, not sure about that though, probably depends on the dealer.

In the case of VW, they do factory reconditioned dash clusters (or at least they used to). But I reckon you refer to a scrapper unit. Its easy to spot - the number will end in the letter X if it is a recon unit. However, you will have to surrender your original cluster in order to avail of the recon unit and its lower price - it won't matter that it's not identical.

crosstownk

colm_mcm wrote:

I'd be very suspicious of an imported Passat where the speedo was interfered with.

In this case, if the job was done properly, you would never know that any parts had been replaced.

colm_mcm

Yes but you would know that UK models shouldn't have KMPH clocks fitted to it.

byte

There is a guy on eBay with the nick jedemdesigne who sells stickers (tachofoilen) that go over your display, but only show Km/h. Dunno if they'd be of much use, you'd need to make sure the km/h points on his stickers would correspond with the km on your current display.

maidhc

leave your car as it is.

It will always be public knowledge that your car was first registered outside of Ireland. Since it is RHD this means it was registered in the UK.

Colm's point is very valid.

crosstownk

maidhc wrote:

leave your car as it is.

It will always be public knowledge that your car was first registered outside of Ireland. Since it is RHD this means it was registered in the UK.

Colm's point is very valid.

Point taken - but if the job was done and certified by a main dealer then I wouldn't have any problem with the car - but I can understand why others might - espcially in light of the recent publicity surrounding Surburban Cars and the Prime Time programme earlier this year.

colm_mcm

surely a VW dealer would want to use new parts? It mightn't even be an issue when re-selling, some 05 cars didn't have KMPH clocks fited, despite the huge numbers that did.

Moanin

Ok lads enough.Dunno what to do.You know yourself when if trading to a stealer the usual Its fiorstly an English Car and secondly mph where it should be KPH.Dunno why people are suspicous of UK cars, afterall clocking Irish cars is possible also!

Mr.Diagnostic

Does this car have a service history? if not then it's probably clocked already

Seriously though, if it has a history then where is the problem.

crosstownk

colm_mcm wrote:

surely a VW dealer would want to use new parts? It mightn't even be an issue when re-selling, some 05 cars didn't have KMPH clocks fited, despite the huge numbers that did.

Yes, a VW dealer will only use parts supplied by VW. But VW do supply reconditioned dash inserts, as well as gearboxes, alternators, starter motors, cylinder heads, engines (both complete and short blocks) and a host of other parts. These parts a reconditioned in the VW parts factory in Kassel, supplied only through the VW dealer network and come with the same warranty as a brand new part - the only thing is that you need to surrender the old part for future reconditioning to avail of the recon price. If you do not you will be charged the difference between a new part and a the recon part. The dealer buys a recon part from VW and has 30 days to return the old part in lieu - if the old part is not returned then the dealer is surcharged.

OP - If I was you, I'd get the job the done in a main dealer - especially if you have a service history which shows a mileage history. Keep the invoice for the swap over with mileage recorded on it. That should ease the mind of a future purchaser of your Passat.

But as Colm says, some 05 cars had MPH displays. So if your happy to leave it in imperial measurements then it still shouldn't pose a problem at sale time.

colm_mcm

Even if a main dealer is to pull back the trade in price because of the MPH clocks, it'll be nowhere near as much as the cost of getting them fitted,

Moanin

Mr.Diagnostic wrote:

Does this car have a service history? if not then it's probably clocked already

Seriously though, if it has a history then where is the problem.

Typical view of English cars.Yes it has full VW FSH!I wouldnt buy from uk unless the car had full service history and purchased from main dealer

Moanin

colm_mcm wrote:

Even if a main dealer is to pull back the trade in price because of the MPH clocks, it'll be nowhere near as much as the cost of getting them fitted,

Hmm ya I need to weigh it all up really.What the main dealer would deduct for car having mph speedo versus cost of replacing KPH speedo.It doesnt bother me when driving