Byte This with Vince McMahon

RebelRockChick

Credit: PWTorch.com

- The WWE.com Byte This interview began with clips from DX vs. the McMahons/Big Show at Unforgiven. Todd Grisham is hosting. McMahon cut him off and told him to introduce the show without the usual over-acting. Grisham introduced the show in a normal voice. McMahon wanted to know if the questions would be intelligent.

- First question about having his face shoved in Show's ass. "I thought you said the questions were intelligent," McMahon said. He said it's like diving into a stinky Grand Canyon, a cesspool.

- On what he liked about The Marine script, McMahon said it wasn't a cheesy script; that you go to the film not to think, but to feel. He said it's action adventure as an extension of what they do in the ring.

- On why he began WWE Films, McMahon said it's a logical extension of storytelling and using their characters. McMahon said he would rather not to discuss Steve Austin's upcoming movie because that's not opening next weekend. Grisham tried to introduce a clip of The Marine, but McMahon cut him off and told him to try it again by making it feel organic rather than overdone.

- Grisham brought up McMahon's comments about WWE.com Sucks. He said it's not as fan-friendly or interactive as it should be. McMahon said there are too many stories about the same people. He said there's news all the time, but they cover the same people two or three times a day. "Why am I up there on the website twice?" McMahon asked. He said there are many other interesting characters that need exposure. "There's not enough sexuality on the website," he said. McMahon said there should be at least one diva on the splash page everyday. He said the diva site is one of the more popular websites on the site and they should be presented in a classy way, not in a gratuitous titillation type of way.

- On what his favorite websites are, McMahon said ESPN and a few others he would rather not mention.

- On Eric Bischoff's book, McMahon said he has not read the book, but it's from Eric's point of view. He said they, as human beings, have a tendency to re-write history as they presented it or wanted it to be. "I think that's what Eric has done," he said. McMahon said it's true that WCW didn't fit the new Time Warner culture, but he uses that as an excuse for why they lost $85 million. "That takes talent," McMahon said. He said when they bought WCW, they took that on. McMahon said that doesn't make sense if he's working for Time Warner so he understands why they wouldn't want to keep WCW on the books.

- On what would have happened if WCW bought WWE, McMahon said he doesn't know if he would have appeared on WCW. He said he brought Bischoff on board as an on-air character because he thought it would be a good move for the fans. "I always put my personal ego aside, which people find hard to believe, to do what's right for business," he said. McMahon said even if he was bought out or driven out, he would still be in the wrestling business. He said he could always go back to promoting local events. He said it's the business he loves and he has no idea what he would be doing otherwise.

- On the meeting with Hulk Hogan in his office, McMahon said it was about appearing on Hogan Knows Best. He said the concept of Austin-Hogan is an interesting paper concept, but it's not a realistic match and he doesn't expect it to happen. McMahon said it's an interesting concept, but there's no way it's going to happen.

- On living up to WM III, McMahon said there is a pressure with every live event to succeed the previous one. He said it's the best in terms of in-ring attendance, but they've succeeded in following that WrestleMania with even better Manias. McMahon said they have to better themselves with every passing show, as their audience demands. McMahon said they give them excellence with every Mania. He said he would like to see Hogan in some capacity at Mania.

- On how ECW is faring, McMahon paused for a while then said "fair, but pretty good." "We're a long ways away from what it can be," McMahon said. He said people are accustomed to seeing car wrecks and it gets old after the sixth straight week. McMahon said human beings are interested in people. He said they have to make people care about the individuals who are in the gimmick matches. McMahon said once they make people care about the wrestlers, the brand should take off. "It has a long ways to go," he said. McMahon said there is a possibility ECW would go to two hours in time. "Let's produce a really hot one hour and build up the talent roster," he said.

- Grisham said they received the most emails on Kurt Angle. McMahon said losing Angle was a big hit for the company. He said Angle was very competitive, but it's that competitive streak that will be his demise in the business. McMahon said he pushes his body far beyond his body can sustain. He said Angle has suffered many permanent injuries and his neck is no better since 1996. "His neck has constantly deteroriated since then," he said. "You can't go at the pace Kurt Angle goes and not get hurt every night." McMahon said his concern is Angle's individual health. He said he explained to Angle that he can't think long-term when he doesn't want to think long-term. McMahon said Angle is the guy who thinks about getting it now. He said you should want to be able to bend over and pick up your kids or grandkids.

- McMahon said some of the Angle story is confidential, but the story revolves around his health. On Angle being with "the competition", McMahon said he wishes Angle would have taken a lot of time off before he got back in the ring. He said the idea was Angle would take time off, get his health back as much as possible, and then get back in the ring. He said he's not upset with Angle for making money and providing for his family, but he was hoping and he thought it was an understanding that Angle would get better before coming back, especially to WWE where the door was wide open. "I'm concerned for Kurt's personal health," he said.

- On when Chris Benoit might be back, he said Benoit has been training. McMahon said it's going to be a big return. He said he knew he needed time off and he made the call to get back in shape and recover from injuries. McMahon said it's not good in the long-term to push yourself so hard. He said Benoit wanted to enjoy the fruits of labors, even after acknowledging that he doesn't always do that.

- On when divas went from wrestlers to divas who just know to strip, McMahon said that's harsh, but a good point. He said as time goes on, it's not necessarily a better situation if you enjoy women's wrestling. McMahon said there's Trish and Lita, who do know how to compete, but there is no training facility that is specific to training women. He said the standpoint and what he's trying to do is to have the sexiest women on television. McMahon said the younger male audience would rather see them wrestling or involved in relationships. "Times have changed," he said.

- On who the future of the WWE is, McMahon said it's a difficult question. He said it might be Cena or Fit Finlay. "You just don't know in this business," he said. "You don't know who the fans will push and who they want." McMahon acknowledged they often times decide who WWE should push then it's his job to make that happen.

- McMahon said he often sees promising wrestlers who look like they should make it in the business, but then they reach plateaus, don't want to push themselves, don't want to grow, and they max out on their potential.

- On Cryme Tyme, McMahon said it's the opposite of racist. He told viewers to go to the Corporate website to see why it's fun and that's what they're doing. McMahon said the audience determines whether something is successful, and it's not up to his personal taste. "C'mon, you have to laugh at it," he said. McMahon said people take it too seriously.

- On the WWE Magazine, Grisham said you read it for the pictures and the articles. McMahon said the divas are a part of the magazine, but they can't compete with men's magazines. He said it has a financial and artistic success blending the Raw and SD magazines into one magazine. McMahon said the original magazine talked down to their audience and the new magazine is more fan-friendly and reflective of the audience. He said it's more insightful on who the wrestlers are. McMahon said he will drop the magazine on someone's desk after a meeting to leave an impression.

- On putting the McMahon-Hunter wedding on PPV, McMahon said he thought he was ribbing when he made that suggestion on the PPV. Grisham said it could have made some money. "It very well could have," McMahon said. On where his TV character ends and where his real personality begins, he said there are parallels and contradictions. He said some people say he's a real-life Mr. McMahon, but he doesn't see himself that way.

- On the Bob Costas interview, he said that wasn't Mr. McMahon TV character, and he was on the defensive to defend the organization and the fanbase. He said when someone is insulting to his company, he's going to say something. "I boil over when that happens," he said. McMahon said if you really want to piss him off, then talk down about his company. He said he would have jumped Costas or slapped the crap out of him if he were bigger and taller. "That was me," he said.

- On the XFL, McMahon said he's very proud of it. He said it was a hoot and a good business venture. "I'm an entrepreneur," he said. "I take chances in life." McMahon said it was a calculated risk and it cost him some dollars because it wasn't successful, but the upside was enormous. He said he didn't realize the relationship between the NFL and the media. He said they didn't overcome that hurdle and their TV deal fell through. Again, blaming the media and TV.

- McMahon said he knows who M.V.P. will face at No Mercy, but he won't reveal who. On whether he roots for certain wrestlers, McMahon grumbled as if deciding to break kayfabe or not and said he loves Fit Finlay because he's a throwback wrestler who's a tough, rugged, bastard. He said you learn to respect the business after facing him. He said the Irish connection might play into why he like him.

- On the season premiere of Raw, McMahon said it's going to be a dynamite show. He said each brand will want to excel and there will be some interesting things that haven't been seen before. McMahon said they have a vision for how the show is going to look, but often times, something doesn't play out on live TV, as it does on paper. His theory is that if it's live, then nothing can go wrong because they can roll with the punches of what happens live.

- McMahon said the favorite part of his job is the creative aspect, working with the wrestlers, and motivating them to get the best out of their performances. He said that he gets to be every single individual by giving them the tools in which to succeed. McMahon said sometimes he can lead the horse to the trough, but they won't drink from the water.

- After clips aired from The Marine premiere at Camp Pendleton, McMahon said the biggest event of the year is not WrestleMania, but going overseas to see the troops and give back. He said it's great to visit the troops and tell them thank you. He said a large part of their demographic is the type of people who enjoy non-stop action. On Cena's performance, McMahon said it's a calculated risk to take someone who's never acted before and putting them in a starring role, most people would think I'm slightly insane. He said Cena pulled this off extremely well. McMahon said he's not the next movie superstar, but Cena enjoys doing the roles given to him. He said you get to see a lot of Cena, the human being, during the movie.

- On whether Cena will ever leave WWE to pursue other roles, he said Cena might consider that when he's his age. He said Cena insisted on coming back to WWE for the shows while filming the movie in Australia. He said Cena is dedicated to the business and, as Rock would tell you, the rush of a live audience can't be missed. "I don't see Cena cashing in his chips and saying, 'Oh, I'm going to be a movie star'."

- McMahon said he would have a blast being in a film and he's even been encouraged to do so, but the problem is that there's not enough time. He said it's three months on a movie set and he can't do that while being so integral to the company. "I don't think we're set up to run the company for three months," he said.

- On whether there any decisions he has made that he regrets, McMahon said, "I don't think I regret anything - oh yeah, I do regret some things in my personal life - I don't think I regret anything from a business standpoint." McMahon said he doesn't regret anything in business.

- On his favorite match, McMahon said he doesn't have a favorite match. He said he enjoys matches with Benoit and Finlay - the art and physicality of what they do - and the showmanship when done right. On the biggest crowd pop ever, he said when Hogan slammed Andre the Giant was the most extraordinary moment in the history of the business.

- On where he goes with DX, McMahon said it might be time for him to forgive DX and go about his business.

- On what possessed him to get in Hell in a Cell, he said he's still in reasonable shape, could be in better shape, and he really enjoys mixing it up. He said Big Show wasn't the back up he thought he would be, but he enjoys confrontation.

- On a wrestler who was hard to let go, McMahon said the most recent decision was Kurt Angle. He said many times it was not him letting the wrestler go, but the wrestler leaving them. He said he's been close to the top talent and when they turn their back and leave, it hurts. He said there have been few instances when they let talent go and that hurts, most notably Angle.

- On his relationship with Hunter, he said he has not seen Hunter at family functions, but the first meeting will be at Thanksgiving. "I would love to stuff the turkey with Triple H."

- Grisham went for a handshake and McMahon just stared at him. They eventually shook hands. Grisham began to sell the PPV, Raw Reunion, and The Marine, then McMahon cut him off. "If you give people too many things to remember, they're not going to remember any of it," he said. (TNA? Are you listening?)

The next three minutes were the best Byte This moments ever. McMahon told Grisham that they needed to plug the event that comes chronologically. Grisham then said they have footage of The Marine cued up to close the show. "Then someone doesn't know how to write a show," McMahon said. He said they should exit with footage of the next event, not the event coming next week. Grisham said they would take his advice and do that.

McMahon then became upset that Grisham was doing what he was saying rather than questioning him. "Don't just do what you're told," he said. Grisham said he's just a puppet doing what the director tells him to do. McMahon told him not to just do what the person in the earpiece says, but to think. "This is America!" McMahon said.

He then critiqued Grisham on his look and his over-done delivery to hype events. He said Grisham needs to be more real and make things feel more authentic, even if he is an exuberant person. McMahon said Grisham has a good look, but he needs to drop the smile. Grisham thanked McMahon once again then hyped No Mercy with McMahon's approval.

Firewalkwithme

RebelRockChick - thanks for finding that excellent summary of the show. I watched about half of it before the Ireland match (:o ) but couldn't find it on wwe.com when I went online again.

Isn't interesting how many times he puts over Finlay during the course of the interview?

Vince135792003

Vince on Kurt Angle- "That competitive streak will be his demise". You can get it on wwe.com and its well worth a watch.

RebelRockChick

No problem, click here the link for the show on WWE.com

Charlie

I thought it was a pretty interesting interview, loved the way that, through out the interview, Vince used the "Mr. McMahon" character to basically tell Todd to stop acting so over the top and over selling things.

I thought Vince ws pretty fair and honest and I appreciated the way he openly criticised aspects of their product such as the website and the old magazines.

I thought Vince summed up the Kurt situation very well and summed up what alot of people are thinking. Interesting that he admitted that losing Angle was a big blow and also didnt deny that Angle in TNA could change the landscape of the business. I was kinda expecting him to shoot down on Kurt and say that it wouldn't affect them at all, and that his presence in TNA wouldn't pose a threat at all.

It was very interesting, in light of many peoples current criticisms of the product, that he said the matches he enjoys the most are the technical ones, involving the likes of Finlay and Benoit. Nice aswel to hear him speak so highly of Finlay.

On a side note, in relation to Todd Grisham I was shocked to read this portion of his Wikipedia enrty: " He is also generally regarded as a difficulty to work with in the locker room. Unlike many actual WWE wrestlers, he demands his own dressing room at live shows, and refuses to attend any house shows. Vince McMahon has personally said he sees Grisham as 'the future voice of Raw', and holds Grisham in the highest regard. This has earned Grisham heat with other wrestlers although he is good friends with the McMahons and is the Godfather of Triple H and Stephanie McMahon's child. "

HorseRadish

With the way Vince was converging with Grisham near the end I wouldnt be surprised if WWE made an angle out of this and made Grisham "lose the smile,glasses" etc,make him more...welll....less of the "MAAIIIIINNNNN EVENNNNTTTT" stuff!

Minto

After what Vince said about Finlay, I wouldn't be surprised if Finlay won the World Title tonight, but i'm not holding my breathe.

On a side note, I thought it was really good to see Vince on ByteThis and talk as Vince the person not 'Mr. McMahon'.

Vince135792003

charlie mchugh wrote:

On a side note, in relation to Todd Grisham I was shocked to read this portion of his Wikipedia enrty: " He is also generally regarded as a difficulty to work with in the locker room. Unlike many actual WWE wrestlers, he demands his own dressing room at live shows, and refuses to attend any house shows. Vince McMahon has personally said he sees Grisham as 'the future voice of Raw', and holds Grisham in the highest regard. This has earned Grisham heat with other wrestlers although he is good friends with the McMahons and is the Godfather of Triple H and Stephanie McMahon's child. "

Wikipedia always comes with a health warning. Somehow I can't see Todd demanding his own dressing room.

I did n't think Vince was ever in character during the interview. I thought he was just giving Tood advice and maybe playing around with him a little. But then again, you just never know with Vince. I don't think even he knows sometimes.

Charlie

True, but if it is the case that he is the godfather of hhh's an Stephaie's daugter then it wouldn't be wrong to presume that he is cosy with the McMahons and may be able to leverage in his favour "perks" that othes within the company can't.

While Vince might have been in charcther, the criticisms ring true, and that was my original point, that he used the Mr. McMahon character to point out real faults in Grishams style.

Vince135792003

Like I said Wikipedia comes with a severe health warning. If you want a good example search for Pat Kenny. And you'll get quite the biography on him.

The thought of Todd having his own dressing room is a laughable even if he was Vinces love child! Look how Shane was treated. He started from the bootom working in the ring crew and then as a referee for years. No special priveleges there.

It could all be true although I have my doubts. But like I said, Wikipedia is very dodgy.

Gillie

watching it at the mo. Good stuff!