Which players should never get another game for us?

Pigman II

Who should be kicked off the Ireland team right now and never asked to play for us again?

With all this blaming of Staunton for our recent woes I think I think a fair portion of the blame should go on the players who (imho) haven't been pulling their weight long before Staunton came into the picture (right back to after wc2002 imho).

Which guys do you think that if we got rid of and replaced with someone else we probably wouldn't do much worse (and possibly better?

Devious

Without a doubt I would have to say John O Shea. I dont think the guy has ever had even ONE decent game for us, he is an absolute non-entity as a player. And i'm from Waterford AND a Man U supporter.

He would be swiftly followed by Andy O Brien and Kevin Kilbane.

tdv

O Shea,Kilbane, O'Brien,Carr(I know he wasnt playing yesterday but still) , Morrison. I think they would be the most obivous choices

Carcharodon

Andy O Brien - Simply not good enough
John O Shea - Constantly puts in poor performances

Dont dislike Kilbane as much as i used to, he has put in some good performances in his Irish career, can be effective when used properly

kinaldo

I've been saying Andy O' Brian for years! I think I actually went out and celebrated the day Newcastle got rid of him for something crazy like £2m

Zebra3

Kilbane.

And Morrison. He should never have been allowed play for Ireland anyway. Weighting up his options to see what was his best for his own club career. Either you want to play for Ireland or foxtrot oscar.

Rollo Tamasi

i think Kilbane and Morrison can do a job still for Ireland but certainly O Shea and O Brien shouldn't be called up based on yesterdays performance and get rid of Carr too.

We don't need him. How stupid is Stan? Saying he wants to build a team for the future but he takes back Carr from retirement and says no to Holland and Carsley when we have **** all cover in central midfield and the best RB in the PL in our squad. Idiot.

dcarroll

he certainly didnt look like the best rb in the pl lastnight, in fact i would say that judging by last nights performance there are far superior rb's in the eircom league.
On the subject of players not getting another game for us i'd add Paddy Kenny to that list

casanova_kid

I think it's definetly time Kilbane's career was ended. I don't think he ever doesn't give 100%, but he's just such a poor all round footballer.
O Shea, O Brien and Morrison should definetly be dropped and I think Robbie Keane should be stripped off his captaincy.

Ruu_Old

O'Shea has to go and would agree, give the captains armband to someone who deserves it.

Pigman II

Ruu wrote:

give the captains armband to someone who deserves it.

That'd be a problem. There is no one on that team who deserves it.

Is it allowable to play without a captain?

Raskolnikov

Kilbane, O' Brien, Carr, Morrison shouldn't EVER pull on a green jersey again. They've all spurned chance after chance in the Irish team.

O'Shea is generally crap but he's a utility player who can cover so many positions. Not a first choice but should still be in the squad.

Robbie Keane is annoying to watch but we're really lacking upfront and once he gets decent service he's usually good.

Raskolnikov

Pigman II wrote:

That'd be a problem. There is no one on that team who deserves it.

Is it allowable to play without a captain?

Shay Given or Richard Dunne?

Bounty Hunter

Pigman II wrote:

That'd be a problem. There is no one on that team who deserves it.

Is it allowable to play without a captain?

Shay Given deserves it, argueably the only reason untill this point Irelands slide in quality has not been so blatently obvious.

Bateman

Carr, O'Shea, O'Brien. I dislike Morrisson and I don't rate Kilbane, but Morrisson has in the past scored goals for us, and Kilbane puts in the effort if nothing else. I don't think either should get near the starting XI in the event that we had everyone fit, but nor do I think they should be discarded.

Rockee

I just couldnt believe the limp attempt by the 'team' yesterday...Stan said himself that it looked as though the players didnt have a clue who each other were when they got onto the pitch!!

Back to thread...O'Shea, O'Brien, Kenny are not good enough

I agree with a post above about Morrisson, its wrong to weigh up your international options but thats for another day. The rest of the players need to take a long good look at themselves because Ive seen better effort from Under 8s.

casanova_kid

Rockee wrote:

I just couldnt believe the limp attempt by the 'team' yesterday...Stan said himself that it looked as though the players didnt have a clue who each other were when they got onto the pitch!!

Back to thread...O'Shea, O'Brien, Kenny are not good enough

I agree with a post above about Morrisson, its wrong to weigh up your international options but thats for another day. The rest of the players need to take a long good look at themselves because Ive seen better effort from Under 8s.

I don't care about players weighing up their international options once they do the business on the pitch. Morrison should be dropped because he's awful, can't hold the ball up, can't control the ball, no effort. His reasons for playing for Ireland are irrelevat.

Rockee

casanova_kid wrote:

I don't care about players weighing up their international options once they do the business on the pitch. Morrison should be dropped because he's awful, can't hold the ball up, can't control the ball, no effort. His reasons for playing for Ireland are irrelevat.

Well either way he's as guilty as the rest of them for what happened yesterday. I agree with what you said about not holding the ball up. Perhaps the only time he managed to do that and score was against Russia in Moscow 4 years ago...which we still lost 4-2. Anyway, we've got a generous football team, we gifted the mighty Cyprus their first win (hammering if you will) since they beat Andorra in 2000...thats unbelievable.

gandalf

Andy O'Brien
Clinton Morrison
John O'Shea
Stephen Carr
Kevin Kilbane

Robbie Keane should be stripped of the Captain's Armband as well and it be handed to Given or Dunne.

Rikand

Andy O Brien, John O Shea, Clinton Morrison

The first two, i dont think have ever played a decent game for ireland and Clinton Morrisson hasnt played a good game in 2 years at least

I've always had a soft spot for Kilbane and though he may be useless, at least he tries!, which is more than can be said for half the useless ........ we have playing on our team atm

Jmac24128

got to be Andy O Brien and Kevin Kilbane never to play for ireland again they looked like they didnt even care last nite. the only one in midfeild who was trying to tackle was young ireland and he is not a ball winner, bring back carsely he will win the ball back and give it his all. seeing matt holland on the tv shown instead of playing was a huge disappointment too! about the captain (robbie keane) it got to be given to dunne or given the only too irish players who give it there all and lead the team. and i think people should give morrison a break he works his ass off unlike robbie keane.

Triton

Paddy Kenny. Put a pair of gloves on a kangaroo from Dublin zoo and he'd put in a better goalkeeping performance.

Xavi6

Triton wrote:

Paddy Kenny. Put a pair of gloves on a kangaroo from Dublin zoo and he'd put in a better goalkeeping performance.

I don't think they have kangaroos in the zoo.....

redspider

Kilbane ... but I think I've said that before, many, many times but no-one is listening.

Also, Andy O'Brien was guilty of some major offences.

Stephen Kenny was guilty of one goal too, but it wasnt that one which lost us the game.

Redspider

jesus_thats_gre

O'Brien is complete horse **** to be honest. O'Shea should not be allowed near the defence. Kilbane should not be allowed near the centre of midfield.

Chucky the tree

Bit harsh on Kilbane i think. You cant say the lad doesnt put the effort in. He just doesnt have the ability.

Hes not a centre midfield and never has been, is it his fault he is continually picked to play there?