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  • 10-10-2006 2:31pm
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    plonk
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    Ok building a pc for a friend and i have 3 done out. He would like to spend as little as possibel but around 1000 is his budget. I have done out 3 shopping lists just wondering which one is best\. 2 of these are dells


    AMD® Athlon™ 64 X2 Processor 4200+
    1GB Dual Channel DDR2 533MHz [2x512MB] Memory
    HARD DRIVE 250GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst™
    OPTICAL DRIVE(S) 16 X DVD +/- RW Drive
    GRAPHICS CARD 256MB nVidia GeForce 7300 Turbocache graphics card
    MONITOR Dell™ 19" Value Flat Panel (E197FP)
    DELL PRINTERS Dell Photo All-In-One Printer 924
    CABLES Dell™ USB 2.0 Printer Cable - 3m black cable
    SPEAKERS Dell™ A525 Speakers with Subwoofer edit
    KEYBOARD Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Ire (QWERTY) edit
    MOUSE Dell USB 2 Button Wheel Mouse - Black edit
    FLOPPY/MEDIA DRIVES 3.5" Floppy Drive edit
    MODEMS Dell™ v92 Data/Fax modem with modem cable
    932 incl delivery

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz Socket LGA775, 2MB, BOXED w/fan
    In-Win C603 Midi Tower ATX Black Case w/350W PSU, 2xUSB 2.0
    LG 19" LCD L194WT TCO-99, Silver, 1440x900, 5ms, 2000:1, DVI/VGA
    Logitech B58 Optical Premium Wheel Mouse, Black, USB/PS2 (OEM)
    Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500, spill resistant, Black, PS/2, UK
    MSI P965 NEO-F, P965, Socket-775, ATX, SATAII, GbLAN, DDR2, PCI-Ex16
    NEC DVD±recorder AD-5170 IDE Black OEM DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW PowerColor Radeon X800GTO 128MB DDR1, PCI-Express, DVI-I, Tv-Out, Retail
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA2 16MB 7200RPM
    Sony Floppy Drive, 3,5" 1,44MB Black, Internal
    Trust Modem 56k V90/92 Internal PCI with voice/fax
    TwinMOS DDR2 PC4200 1024MB ,w/two matched DDR2 PC4200 512MB CL4
    From komplett 1054 incl delivery


    Intel® Core® 2 Duo® E6400 Processor (2.13GHz, 1066MHz, 2MB)
    1024MB Dual Channel DDR2 533MHz [2x512]
    HARD DRIVE 250GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst™
    OPTICAL DRIVE(S) 16X DVD+/-RW Drive
    GRAPHICS CARD 256MB ATI Radeon® X1300 Pro PCI Express graphics card
    DELL PRINTERS Dell Photo All-In-One Printer 924 edit
    MONITOR Dell™ 19" Value Flat Panel (E197FP) edit
    SOUND CARDS Integrated Sound Blaster Audigy ADVANCED HD Audio
    SPEAKERS Dell™ A525 Speakers with Subwoofer edit
    KEYBOARD Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Ire (QWERTY) edit
    MOUSE Dell 2 Button USB Scroll Optical Mouse - Black edit
    Internal 13-in-1 Media Card Reader & 1.44MB Floppy Drive
    MODEMS Dell™ v92 Data/Fax modem (including cable
    From dell 1111 euro


    I dont really want to get him the athlon as its not really future proof so which one would you go for. Oh its just for basic gaming and internet and stuff


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    PogMoThoin
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    None of them. Pick a similar setup from here: http://ankermann-pc.com/en/

    Dell will rip you off when you upgrade from the base systems. You'll get much better value from Ankermann.


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    plonk
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    OK foeget the first 3 i have a new one. The question is a floppy drive and a modem cost an extra 60 euro If i bought them off komplett for 36 would i be better off here is the pc.
    Components


    Intel® Core® 2 Duo® E6300 Processor (1.86GHz, 1066MHz, 2MB)

    MEMORY 1024MB Dual Channel DDR2 533MHz [2x512] Memory edit
    HARD DRIVE 320GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst™
    OPTICAL DRIVE(S) 16X DVD+/-RW Drive
    GRAPHICS CARD 256MB ATI Radeon X1300 Pro graphics card
    MONITOR Dell™ 19" Value Flat Panel (E197FP)

    DELL PRINTERS Dell Photo All-In-One Printer 924
    CABLES Dell™ USB 2.0 Printer Cable - 3m black cable
    SOUND CARDS Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™ ADVANCED HD software
    SPEAKERS Dell™ A525 Speakers with Subwoofer edit
    KEYBOARD Dell™ Black Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Ire (QWERTY) edit
    MOUSE Dell USB 2 Button Wheel Mouse - Black edit
    FLOPPY/MEDIA DRIVES 3.5" Floppy Drive edit
    MODEMS Dell™ v92 Data/Fax modem (including cable) edit


    That comes to 977 So would i be better off buying the floppy and modem off komplett and fitting them myself and then upgrade the screen to digital


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    PogMoThoin
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    Why you need a floppy?


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    plonk
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    Its not for me. I dont have a floppy or modem on my pc but the lad who im getting it for has a young lad in secondary school and I reckon theyll need it.
    Or maybe they wont i might just get them a usb pen. So do u think its good value.


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    petes
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    I second going with http://ankermann-pc.com/en/


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    plonk
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    Ive tried ankermann and cant seem to get better value core2duo with printer and 19inch monitor. Do you know if there is free delivery with the dell printers that are on offer at the moment


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    PogMoThoin
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    Floppy's are totally obsolete, only hold 1.44Mb. Useless f**cking things. You never get a floppy in a pc any more. The only time you'd ever need a floppy nowadays is to install sata drivers in Xp, but there's ways around it. Get a card reader.
    On another word, modems don't come in pc's nowadays either. Most people have broadband.


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    plonk
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    Ya i know but in the countryside dial up is all u have Ya i think i will go with ankerrmann there is free delivery with the dell printers so ill get one of them aswell Thanks



    EDIT: Sorry but which is the best psu on ankermann


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    PogMoThoin
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    Dell printer is not really worth anything, only give them away with new pc's cos its expensive to get cartridges for & you have to buy them from Dell. There is a modification that you can do to allow you to put cheaper cartridges in them tho. Pm me if you need to know how.


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    plonk
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    So what multifunction printer do you think is the best value for money or is the dell worth it


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    PogMoThoin
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    Dunno that much bout printers, all i have is that Dell 1 (got it free with a lappy for my mother last yr) but i had to modify it to take cheaper printer cartridges. Don't use a printer much myself.

    I've put together a self build list off Komplett 2 see how they would fare out price-wise. Its a little bit more expensive than Dell & doesn't include a printer, but does include a monitor, mouse & keyboard. http://www.komplett.ie/k/shoplist.asp?mode=receive&si=390825&su=C8EB12E8-0E4A-47B7-B1A2-5F0B5F38D1BA

    I'll try ankermann now.
    System: INTEL Core 2 Duo 1,86Ghz
    E6300 FSB1066 S.775 2MB..............Base price € 399.00
    Equipment:

    - INTEL Core 2 Duo E6300 1,86Ghz FSB 1066 S.775 2x2MB: € 0.00
    - ASROCK 775DUAL-VSTA (PCIe- AGP8x-SATA-I): € 0.00
    - PCI-e 256MB ATI RADEON X1300 Pro TV-out & DVI: € 44.90
    - IDE 320 GB Western Digital 3200JD (8MB-7200rpm): € 56.90
    - 256MB DDR-II RAM G-Skill CL4 533MHz
    - DDR-II upgrade from 256MB to 1024MB TRANSCEN PC533: € 64.90
    - DVD-RW Samsung 16x/16x/4,0x RAM DL SH-S162A/BEBE (CaseColor): € 27.90
    - Ankermann Tower 6x USB 2.0
    - Intel CPU cooler
    - 450W XILENCE PFC 5V=29 A/ 3.3V=30 A/ 12V=14 A: € 27.90
    - Realtek ALC888 8 channel audio
    - 10/100 Ethernet LAN
    Total:......€ 621,50

    Not bad & pre built. Remember that you have to pay extra for an operating system & you'll have to add peripherals ie. monitor, keyboard & mouse.


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    plonk
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    Ok thank you but that mobo is it any good


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    plonk
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    Acer 19" LCD AL1916WAs TCO99 Monitor, Widescreen Silver/Black 500:1, 8ms
    Logitech B58 Optical Premium Wheel Mouse, Black, USB/PS2 (OEM)
    Trust Compact Keyboard KB-1120, Classic Layout, PS/2, Retail, UK
    Trust Modem 56k V90/92 Internal PCI with voice/fax
    TwinMOS USB2.0 Mobile Disk X4 512MB 7/19MB sec writing and reading speed

    292.50 off komplett


    WaveLab LD-120 Speakers

    Apacer 15-in-1 CardReader (Black)

    System: INTEL Core 2 Duo 1,86Ghz
    E6300 FSB1066 S.775 2MB
    Equipment:

    - INTEL Core 2 Duo E6300 1,86Ghz FSB 1066 S.775 2x2MB: € 0.00
    - MSI P965 Neo-F (P/S/GBL/SATA/DDRII): € 49.90
    - PCI-e 256MB ATI RADEON X1300 Pro TV-out & DVI: € 44.90
    - SATA-II 250 GB MAXTOR 6V250F0 (7200rpm-16MB): € 35.50
    - 256MB DDR-II RAM G-Skill CL4 533MHz
    - DDR-II upgrade from 256MB to 1024MB TRANSCEN PC533: € 64.90
    - DVD-RW NEC ND-3750A 16x/16x MULTIFORMAT +&- DL (CaseColor): € 29.00
    - GMac case - Black: € 7.90
    - Intel CPU cooler
    - 400W BESTPOWER SuperSilent-Temp Controled: € 7.00
    - Realtek ALC888 8 channel audio
    - 10/100 Ethernet LAN 1 638,10


    663 off ankermann
    So that comes to 955.50 and then the dell printer 60euro so 1015.50

    Pretty good value
    Thanks Pog


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    PogMoThoin
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    I've no idea about that mobo, i'm well up on overclocking mobo's, thats what i'm interested in myself. There isn't much of a difference in mobo's at stock speed, people usually look for good mobo's that overclock well and that is usually the deciding factor. If your gonna build him a rig for overclocking, your gonna have to raise (nearly double) your budget, other than that the mobo's fine & will suit his needs. This is a pretty basic low budget pc, don't expect 2 much.

    Edit: if he wants 2 play modern games, the best value for money mid range gpu out there at the moment is the 7600gt. Might be worth considering changing to it as this will play any game available at the moment @ 1280x1024 without having to completely reduce the settings or drop to a lower resolution.
    Don't forget you need to buy a copy of Windows Xp, Ankermann don't supply the operating system.
    Good luck


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