Help me choose a wireless router.

commited

Hey folks,
About 2 years ago, I bought a Linksys WAG54G on many peoples recommendations, and basically, it's been crap. Constantly disconnects and the wireless will randomly stop working. It's actually been better recently, but now it's decided to break - the wired ports no longer work. The one good thing is that the firewall appears to be excellent.

So basically I'm looking for a replacement, and hoping to buy my grandmother the exact same device, so it needs to be maintenance free.

I need:
Built in modem (compatible with Eircom 2mb)
An excellent hardware firewall
Wireless for up to 3 devices
At least one wired connection

Ideally looking for it to be less than €80

Cheers lads
Mark

aidan_walsh

I've been using the Netgear DG834G for the last two years without an issue.

commited

Are there still firmware updates being provided?

My shortlist:
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=395K&CategorySelectedId=11177&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11177,4294959740
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=44WK&CategorySelectedId=11177&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11177,4294959740
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=2VCD&CategorySelectedId=11177&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11177,4294959740,50542

Anyone any experience of the Zyxel and 3com? Seem excellent value for money.

antoinolachtnai

You can also get the Fonera from FON for less than 20 euros delivered.

http://www.fon.com

This has two SSIDs - one with a wpa key just like a regular wi-fi router, and the other which allows fon sharing and allows you to share your broadband, and make some money if you want.

Dave!

I've got a Linksys WRT54GS, and it's been working flawlessly since we got it (admittedly only about 3/4 months).

mayhem#

antoinolachtnai wrote:

You can also get the Fonera from FON for less than 20 euros delivered.

http://www.fon.com

This has two SSIDs - one with a wpa key just like a regular wi-fi router, and the other which allows fon sharing and allows you to share your broadband, and make some money if you want.

And it will only be a matter of time until Eircom and all the other ISP's will clamp down on anyone that is breaking their TOS in this way...

E.

antoinolachtnai

Huh? How does it violate the eircom TOS?

It's worth noting that the UK Internet Service Providers Association has come out in support of FON's model.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/28/fon_isp_concerns/

mayhem#

antoinolachtnai wrote:

It's worth noting that the UK Internet Service Providers Association has come out in support of FON's model.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/28/fon_isp_concerns/

That's a rather simplistic summary of the article..

A router designed to share broadband internet connections with third parties appears to break the terms and conditions of seven of the top 10 UK internet service providers.
Fon.com offers Wi-Fi routers for as little as €5 and encourages connection sharing in a bid to build a Wi-Fi community, but its policies could put users at odds with their providers.

OUT-LAW has examined the terms and conditions of the 10 biggest UK ISPs as rated by research firm Point Topic. Only two of the ISPs, Blueyonder from Telewest and Orange Broadband, do not ban the sharing of a connection with third parties.
Seven of the ISPs, including BT, NTL and Tiscali, ban connection sharing explicitly. One ISP, AOL, bans sharing but only if the access is sold. Fon does encourage users to charge for access.
The Fon system is designed to create an informal network of users. If you buy a Fon router you receive a username and password. If you have a Wi-Fi-enabled laptop and come into range of another Fon router you can sign on with your Fon username and password and use that internet access. If you share your Wi-Fi for free at your own home then you can use any Fon connection for free. If you don't share your own access you can use any other Fon point for €3 per day, according to Fon. If you decline the right to have free roaming access you can share 50 per cent of the revenue generated by charging that €3 a day for your access.
Though individual ISP policies tend to forbid sharing, Tim Snape of Internet Service Providers Association (ISPA) says that the idea is a good one. "It sounds like a really good thing to do," he said. "Anything that makes it easier for the consumer to get the benefit of the internet is a good thing. There are negatives that need to be addressed but our thinking is that it is good for the consumer."
"If it is being used for normal use, browsing a few websites, a bit of email, then the amount of traffic is so negligible it's not an issue," said Snape. "But if it's being used to download thousands of CDs then that is an issue but that would apply if it was an individual who wasn't sharing it. It's abuse that ISPs don't like."
A major concern for Wi-Fi users who share a connection is what the connection is used for. Should a third party use the connection for illegal activities, an investigation would lead to the address of the person whose network was shared.
In Fon's case, though, each user must already be a Fon subscriber and must sign in to use the network, meaning that everyone using the network can be identified. "What Fon are doing seems to be the right thing," said Snape. "The key to resolving this problem is being able to identify the users." Fon did not comment when contacted by OUT-LAW.

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mayhem#

commited wrote:

I need:
Built in modem (compatible with Eircom 2mb)
An excellent hardware firewall
Wireless for up to 3 devices
At least one wired connection

I suggest that you have a look at some of the Zyxel or Buffallo hardware.

E.

antoinolachtnai

mayhem# wrote:

That's a rather simplistic summary of the article..

Well, it wasn't a summary, simplistic or otherwise. It was a statement of fact, with a source cited.

Best,

a.

mayhem#

A statement reflecting someone's opinion rather than fact...

E.

antoinolachtnai

I said that in the article the ISPA came out in support of the FON model. If you read the third paragraph from the bottom, you will see that this is in fact the case.

mayhem#

See this is a fact:

OUT-LAW has examined the terms and conditions of the 10 biggest UK ISPs as rated by research firm Point Topic. Only two of the ISPs, Blueyonder from Telewest and Orange Broadband, do not ban the sharing of a connection with third parties.
Seven of the ISPs, including BT, NTL and Tiscali, ban connection sharing explicitly. One ISP, AOL, bans sharing but only if the access is sold.

And this is an opinion:

Though individual ISP policies tend to forbid sharing, Tim Snape of Internet Service Providers Association (ISPA) says that the idea is a good one. "It sounds like a really good thing to do," he said. "Anything that makes it easier for the consumer to get the benefit of the internet is a good thing. There are negatives that need to be addressed but our thinking is that it is good for the consumer."
"If it is being used for normal use, browsing a few websites, a bit of email, then the amount of traffic is so negligible it's not an issue," said Snape. "But if it's being used to download thousands of CDs then that is an issue but that would apply if it was an individual who wasn't sharing it. It's abuse that ISPs don't like."

E.

antoinolachtnai

Well, it's a fact that they expressed an opinion, that's what I meant.

:-)