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Internet Explorer 7 Released

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  • #32
    Stephen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    It installs over IE6 but it does uninstall cleanly and leaves IE6 as it was when its gone.
    Tabs don't work for me in it. They're enabled but the new tab option in the file menu is greyed out, middle clicking on links opens them in a new window, and I'm getting IE6 context menus. WTF?

    Firefox is my primary browser btw.


  • #33
    Gordon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Thanks for the heads up. Not sure if I'll check it out yet due to that reason.


  • #34
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Peteee wrote:
    Which goes to show how irresponsible the security company is for waiting till they release IE7 before saying anything, despite it being in Beta/RC mode for about a year.

    Thats not to say MS shouldn't have a fix, but still...
    Perhaps the company told microsoft about it when in beta, or perhaps microsoft should have checked it against KNOWN IE6 vulerabilities before releasing it.

    Regardless of your feelings on Microsoft bashing, they did set themselves up for a fall by claiming it was secure. In the context of IE "more secure" means nothing as the bi-monthly patches to prevent someone taking complete control of your machine shows the base line to improve on is absymal.

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx
    Internet Explorer 7 is a major step forward in ease of use and security. Explore the tabs to learn more.

    Upgrade with Confidence — check out Internet Explorer 7 and install it today.
    ...
    Put safety first.

    Robust new Internet Explorer 7 architecture and improved security features help protect you against malicious software, and help to keep your personal data safe from fraudulent websites and online phishing scams.
    What they don't mention is that IE7 is only a step up if you use IE6, users of Opera and FireFox are probably safer with the latest version of their current browser. And I no longer trust windows updates on home user machines because of the number of downloads and tweaks to get windows update working would put off most inexperianced users, so I feel there are a good few machines out there that aren't patched up to date because the user gave up.

    Both Secuina and SANS have pointed out that a patch for "Outlook Express" fixes a vulnerability in IE7.

    Yes IE7 is a major step in the right direction, but when compared to the competition it doesn't stand out.


    http://secunia.com/product/12366/
    Unpatched 100% (3 of 3 Secunia advisories)

    The most severe unpatched Secunia advisory affecting Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.x, with all vendor patches applied, is rated Moderately critical

    http://secunia.com/product/11/
    Unpatched 18% (19 of 106 Secunia advisories)

    Most Critical Unpatched
    The most severe unpatched Secunia advisory affecting Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.x, with all vendor patches applied, is rated Extremely critical

    http://secunia.com/product/12434/ FireFox 2.x
    Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)

    Most Critical Unpatched
    There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied.
    http://secunia.com/product/10615/ Opera 9.x
    Affected By 2 Secunia advisories

    Unpatched 0% (0 of 2 Secunia advisories)

    Most Critical Unpatched
    There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied.

    http://secunia.com/product/4227/ FireFox 1.x
    Unpatched 8% (3 of 36 Secunia advisories)

    Most Critical Unpatched
    The most severe unpatched Secunia advisory affecting Mozilla Firefox 1.x, with all vendor patches applied, is rated Less critical

    Mentioning this because IE was also available on MAC's
    http://secunia.com/product/5289/
    Unpatched 50% (2 of 4 Secunia advisories)

    Most Critical Unpatched
    The most severe unpatched Secunia advisory affecting Safari 2.x, with all vendor patches applied, is rated Not critical

    http://secunia.com/product/2678/
    Unpatched 67% (4 of 6 Secunia advisories)

    Most Critical Unpatched
    The most severe unpatched Secunia advisory affecting Internet Explorer 5.x for Mac, with all vendor patches applied, is rated Moderately critical
    This is interesting since IE5 on a MAC is nearly as safe as the latest greatest IE7 - damning proof IMHO of why IE should not be integrated into the OS. Especially since it's not had patches for nearly two years.
    http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/internetexplorer/internetexplorer.aspx?pid=internetexplorer
    Microsoft ended support for Internet Explorer for Mac on December 31st, 2005, and is not providing any further security or performance updates.

    Serious question - if/when IE7 will have more unpatched vulnerabilites than FireFox 1.x, 2.x, Safari, 2.x , IE 5 On Mac and Opera 9.x put together ??


  • #35
    Peteee
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peteee


    Capt'n Midnight wrote:
    Perhaps the company told microsoft about it when in beta, or perhaps microsoft should have checked it against KNOWN IE6 vulerabilities before releasing it.

    You're right, of course, they should have checked it against known exploits.
    Regardless of your feelings on Microsoft bashing, they did set themselves up for a fall by claiming it was secure. In the context of IE "more secure" means nothing as the bi-monthly patches to prevent someone taking complete control of your machine shows the base line to improve on is absymal.

    Well it IS more secure. 3 vulnerabilities Vs 19 vulnerabilities for IE6, by defenition, makes it more secure! Now, IE6 is hardly the shining beacon of secure apps, but still.... more secure means more secure!
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspxWhat they don't mention is that IE7 is only a step up if you use IE6, users of Opera and FireFox are probably safer with the latest version of their current browser. And I no longer trust windows updates on home user machines because of the number of downloads and tweaks to get windows update working would put off most inexperianced users, so I feel there are a good few machines out there that aren't patched up to date because the user gave up.

    I dont think MS ever claimed to be more secure then Firefox or Opera, just more secure then IE6. The people running Opera or Firefox, are most likely more computer savy.

    If I had my way, there would be no IE and everyone would use Opera, but it remains the fact that ~85% of users use IE, so any improvements to IE should be welcomed with open arms, no?

    I feel the same way on Windows Update as you, It's far too finicky and fails far more then it should
    Yes IE7 is a major step in the right direction, but when compared to the competition it doesn't stand out.

    No, maybe it dosent stand out, but for the common user who just clicks on the blue e because 'thats the internet' its a definete improvement. But overall, Opera and Firefox wins handsdown.
    http://secunia.com/product/2678/This is interesting since IE5 on a MAC is nearly as safe as the latest greatest IE7

    I'm sure the security researchers put a lot more time into finding exploits for a new browser from Microsoft, rather then a a browser that shipped 7 years ago for an OS that has ~4% market share, most of whoms users are clever enough to use a different browser. (I assume IE5 for mac was released t the same time as other version, please correct me if I'm wrong)
    damning proof IMHO of why IE should not be integrated into the OS. Especially since it's not had patches for nearly two years.

    Of course IE should *never* have been integrated as far into the OS as it did. The software engineer who came up with that should be hung, drawn and quartered.
    Serious question - if/when IE7 will have more unpatched vulnerabilites than FireFox 1.x, 2.x, Safari, 2.x , IE 5 On Mac and Opera 9.x put together ??

    Time will tell...


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