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Ping on NTL

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  • 28-10-2006 12:24pm
    #1
    Catsmokinpot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭


    hey lads, i been using ntl 6meg connection for the last year, and its been fine! but recently the ping has started skyrocketing, was just wondering what might be the problem there?

    is there anything NTL can do about this? coz its all i use the internet for and its annoying the **** out of me

    its gone from a steady 30 right up to 100 - 150

    oh yeah and its not spyware + firewall coz i recently got my new pc and it didnt have anything accept steam installed on it


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    #2
    smellslikeshoes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Its because NTL started peering to amsterdam not too long ago which means that if your playing a game on an irish server it has to go to holland and then back to ireland. Lots of people here are not happy with it, Theres a topic with more information than I could provide here. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054984564


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    #3
    Astro1996
    Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭Astro1996


    its a joke at this stage, all traffic is still going through holland :rolleyes:, just finished playing on a server in the Uk there a few mins ago - ping of 125, used to be 16

    Pinging 195.20.109.81 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 195.20.109.81: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=119
    Reply from 195.20.109.81: bytes=32 time=82ms TTL=119
    Reply from 195.20.109.81: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=119
    Reply from 195.20.109.81: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=119

    Ping statistics for 195.20.109.81:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 33ms, Maximum = 96ms, Average = 62ms

    C:\>tracert 195.20.109.81

    Tracing route to server109-81.4u-servers.co.uk [195.20.109.81]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 33 ms 6 ms 55 ms
    2 16 ms 35 ms 13 ms ntlworld.ie
    3 53 ms 37 ms 64 ms dbln-t2core-b-ge-2-1-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.165.1
    3]
    4 88 ms 102 ms 73 ms nl-ams05a-rd1-pos-13-0.aorta.net [213.46.160.13]

    5 76 ms 44 ms 127 ms nl-ams02a-ra1-10ge-2-1-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.183
    .1]
    6 35 ms 49 ms 45 ms uk-lon01a-rd2-pos-5-0.aorta.net [213.46.160.237]

    7 47 ms 46 ms 54 ms uk-lon01a-rd1-10ge-7-0.aorta.net [213.46.174.33]

    8 52 ms 68 ms 34 ms uk-lon01a-ri1-pos-5-0.aorta.net [213.46.174.162]

    9 94 ms 45 ms 56 ms 213.46.174.38.aorta.net [213.46.174.38]
    10 62 ms 31 ms 31 ms telewest.transit.as25369.net [194.117.147.66]
    11 62 ms 80 ms 34 ms sov-r1-rtr1.4u.net.uk [217.146.81.254]
    12 37 ms 69 ms 50 ms server109-81.4u-servers.co.uk [195.20.109.81]

    Trace complete.


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    #4
    asmith
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭asmith


    I'm on NTL but getting much quicker pings...
    PING 195.20.109.81 (195.20.109.81) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=1 ttl=118 time=16.8 ms
64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=2 ttl=118 time=16.8 ms
64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=3 ttl=118 time=16.6 ms
64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=4 ttl=118 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=5 ttl=118 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=6 ttl=118 time=17.0 ms
64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=7 ttl=118 time=16.8 ms
64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=8 ttl=118 time=40.2 ms
64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=9 ttl=118 time=16.2 ms
64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=10 ttl=118 time=16.6 ms

--- 195.20.109.81 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9033ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 16.286/19.060/40.278/7.075 ms

    The route is different. Doesn't go through NL.
    traceroute to 195.20.109.81 (195.20.109.81), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1)  0.373 ms  0.376 ms  0.287 ms
 2  10.91.0.1 (10.91.0.1)  6.357 ms  23.575 ms  4.676 ms
 3  089-101-162001.ntlworld.ie (89.101.162.1)  6.530 ms  16.334 ms  6.424 ms
 4  dbln-t2core-a-ge-2-2-0-0.aorta.net (213.46.165.9)  5.569 ms  5.302 ms  44.553 ms
 5  uk-lon01a-rd2-pos-1-2.aorta.net (213.46.160.17)  39.886 ms  27.876 ms  15.251 ms
 6  uk-lon01a-rd1-10ge-7-0.aorta.net (213.46.174.33)  24.320 ms  15.652 ms  16.304 ms
 7  uk-lon01a-ri1-pos-5-0.aorta.net (213.46.174.162)  17.315 ms  20.503 ms  15.921 ms
 8  213.46.174.38.aorta.net (213.46.174.38)  16.401 ms  18.434 ms  23.989 ms
 9  telewest.transit.as25369.net (194.117.147.66)  19.168 ms  19.738 ms  16.285 ms
10  sov-r1-rtr1.4u.net.uk (217.146.81.254)  16.021 ms  22.406 ms  21.961 ms
11  server109-81.4u-servers.co.uk (195.20.109.81)  21.987 ms  24.622 ms  17.849 ms


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    #5
    Astro1996
    Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭Astro1996


    asmith wrote:
    The route is different. Doesn't go through NL.
    traceroute to 195.20.109.81 (195.20.109.81), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1)  0.373 ms  0.376 ms  0.287 ms
 2  10.91.0.1 (10.91.0.1)  6.357 ms  23.575 ms  4.676 ms
 3  089-101-162001.ntlworld.ie (89.101.162.1)  6.530 ms  16.334 ms  6.424 ms
 4  dbln-t2core-a-ge-2-2-0-0.aorta.net (213.46.165.9)  5.569 ms  5.302 ms  44.553 ms
 5  uk-lon01a-rd2-pos-1-2.aorta.net (213.46.160.17)  39.886 ms  27.876 ms  15.251 ms
 6  uk-lon01a-rd1-10ge-7-0.aorta.net (213.46.174.33)  24.320 ms  15.652 ms  16.304 ms
 7  uk-lon01a-ri1-pos-5-0.aorta.net (213.46.174.162)  17.315 ms  20.503 ms  15.921 ms
 8  213.46.174.38.aorta.net (213.46.174.38)  16.401 ms  18.434 ms  23.989 ms
 9  telewest.transit.as25369.net (194.117.147.66)  19.168 ms  19.738 ms  16.285 ms
10  sov-r1-rtr1.4u.net.uk (217.146.81.254)  16.021 ms  22.406 ms  21.961 ms
11  server109-81.4u-servers.co.uk (195.20.109.81)  21.987 ms  24.622 ms  17.849 ms
    yeah doesnt seem to route through holland there, where abouts are you?


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    #6
    asmith
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭asmith


    Templeogue


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    #7
    Catsmokinpot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭Catsmokinpot


    smellslikeshoes wrote:
    Its because NTL started peering to amsterdam not too long ago which means that if your playing a game on an irish server it has to go to holland and then back to ireland. Lots of people here are not happy with it, Theres a topic with more information than I could provide here. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054984564
    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

    could ntl be more crappy? this adds to the list of things that piss me off about them


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    #8
    MHP
    Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭MHP


    NTL 3Mb connection. definitely perkier this morning. Terenure, by the way.

    ***
    PING 195.20.109.81 (195.20.109.81): 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=0 ttl=118 time=41.099 ms
    64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=1 ttl=118 time=18.422 ms
    64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=2 ttl=118 time=18.472 ms
    64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=3 ttl=118 time=18.070 ms
    64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=4 ttl=118 time=44.450 ms
    64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=5 ttl=118 time=18.135 ms
    64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=6 ttl=118 time=17.914 ms
    64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=7 ttl=118 time=22.139 ms
    64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=8 ttl=118 time=17.661 ms
    64 bytes from 195.20.109.81: icmp_seq=9 ttl=118 time=19.591 ms

    --- 195.20.109.81 ping statistics ---
    10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 17.661/23.595/44.450/9.697 ms

    ***

    traceroute to 195.20.109.81 (195.20.109.81), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
    1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.695 ms 0.919 ms 0.825 ms
    2 10.91.0.1 (10.91.0.1) 6.779 ms 7.012 ms 9.852 ms
    3 089-101-162001.ntlworld.ie (89.101.162.1) 10.086 ms 8.782 ms 6.472 ms
    4 dbln-t2core-a-ge-2-2-0-0.aorta.net (213.46.165.9) 7.940 ms 6.053 ms 6.117 ms
    5 uk-lon01a-rd2-pos-1-2.aorta.net (213.46.160.17) 18.265 ms 17.936 ms 36.454 ms
    6 uk-lon01a-rd1-10ge-7-0.aorta.net (213.46.174.33) 17.807 ms 20.456 ms 17.429 ms


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    #9
    paulm17781
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭paulm17781


    Mine is no longer going through NL either
    NTL trace wrote:
    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>tracert sip.blueface.ie

    Tracing route to sip.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 13 ms 12 ms 31 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
    2 24 ms 14 ms 7 ms 089-101-162065.ntlworld.ie [89.101.162.65]
    3 23 ms 7 ms 13 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-2-1-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.165.5
    ]
    4 42 ms 20 ms 38 ms uk-lon01a-rd2-pos-1-2.aorta.net [213.46.160.17]

    5 57 ms 18 ms 19 ms uk-lon01a-ri2-pos-3-0.aorta.net [213.46.174.78]

    6 36 ms 17 ms 18 ms GigabitEthernet5-0.linx2.lon1.level3.net [195.66
    .226.77]
    7 34 ms 34 ms 17 ms so-1-2-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.0.118]

    8 33 ms 20 ms 22 ms ae-0-54.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.98]
    9 47 ms 39 ms 52 ms so-2-0.hsa2.Dublin1.Level3.net [4.68.128.118]
    10 48 ms 46 ms 39 ms 213.242.106.14
    11 44 ms 30 ms 34 ms 213.168.225.133

    Trace complete.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>

    Still, I'd prefer they peer on INEX.


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    #10
    PixelTrawler
    Registered Users Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭PixelTrawler


    it looks like its peering back through the uk
    tracert here to irish sites seems to be going that way

    my pings are still rubbish though


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    #11
    Ziycon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Ziycon


    One of my mates lives in Tallaght and he has the same problem, has been playing online games for the past 2 years and never had a problem, the past while his ping has gone massive and he keeps getting kicked from most servers on many different games!!!


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    #12
    Astro1996
    Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭Astro1996


    Im in Tallaght myself and ive have had ntl bb since 2001 and never had any problems with pings until the change over to upc, since august my pings to uk and european servers are on average 100ms higher than what they should be - example, american players on that particular server have the same ping as me (150-200ms) or in some cases lower, while uk and european players are in the 20-50 ping range - its frustrating, but i dont want to change from ntl as it has always been a good service, but over the last 2-3 months it has been terrible and my patience is honestly starting to wear thin at this point.

    here is my tracert as above to sip.blueface.ie

    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.UNIMATRIX001>cd \

    C:\>tracert sip.blueface.ie

    Tracing route to sip.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 28 ms 77 ms 44 ms xxxxxxxx
    2 61 ms 36 ms 278 ms 089-101-162013.ntlworld.ie [89.101.162.13]
    3 80 ms 129 ms 77 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-2-2-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.165.9
    ]
    4 36 ms 111 ms 22 ms uk-lon01a-rd2-pos-1-2.aorta.net [213.46.160.17]

    5 31 ms 24 ms 30 ms uk-lon01a-ri2-pos-3-0.aorta.net [213.46.174.78]

    6 55 ms 148 ms 173 ms GigabitEthernet5-0.linx2.lon1.level3.net [195.66
    .226.77]
    7 28 ms 82 ms 61 ms so-1-2-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.0.118]

    8 47 ms 53 ms 42 ms ae-0-54.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.98]
    9 119 ms 128 ms 105 ms so-2-0.hsa2.Dublin1.Level3.net [4.68.128.118]
    10 82 ms 58 ms 115 ms 213.242.106.14
    11 37 ms * 97 ms 213.168.225.133

    Trace complete.


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    #13
    christophicus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    can somebody please give me a link to a good file off of heanet for testing my download speed please.


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