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my bus fire experience

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    #32
    The Real B-man
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    Make ya wanna get the train but thats not much better either i was on a train to waterford irony lol and the aircon unit overflowed on to this woemen covering her in ice cold water puts faith in public transport:rolleyes:


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    #33
    Mossy Monk
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    first time hearing of this bus catching fire. nice buses too that particular model


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    #34
    Capt'n Midnight
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    chillywilly wrote:
    ye maybe more time is need for more services on bus eireann buses, it doesnt matter how much money they spend, if it saves even 1 life they did something right
    Was it a Genuine Bus Eireann bus or a sub-contractors ?


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    #35
    Wishbone Ash
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote:
    Was it a Genuine Bus Eireann bus or a sub-contractors ?
    From the pic provided, it appears to be a BE bus.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/30808/35404.jpg


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    #36
    Seth Brundle
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    When I was in UCD (early to mid 90s) we were brought on field trips quite frequently and the busses were supplied by BE.
    With abouot 75% of the trips there was some kind of incident or another. They would either not turn up (with some kind of mechanical excuse) and a replacement would be brought much later or they would break down somewhere along the trip.
    The worst was when we were heading down the N7 at Rathcoole. Suddenly the bus driver was beeping the horn madly coming up to a set of amber lights. The artic in front had the cop to keep going and the bus coasted to a halt down the road beside an Esso station. Its brakes had died somehow. :eek:
    Luckily for the driver, there was a girder sticking out from the artic's trailer. Had the artic stopped for the lights...
    Anyhow, the driver rang HQ and ordered another bus which apparently broke down and after about 90 minutes another one arrived along with an inspector. The driver ripped shreds out of the inspector who escorted him away in the car.

    BE's attitude towards maintenance IMO was extremely poor back then. Given the accidents over the few years, it seems that little has changed!


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    #37
    RoundyMooney
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    Well, judging purely by visual experience (as it's years since I boarded a BE bus), if there is a maintenance regime, it certainly doesn't extend to exterior cleanliness and bodywork.

    Nearly new buses that haven't seen their second Christmas yet sport missing panels, multiple battle scars, and exhaust residue and road grime all over them. It beggars belief that such a large capital investment as represented by a luxury coach is not subject to more rigorous upkeep and repair. Talk about false economy!

    On the other side of the coin, I found, (and still do, from a road users standpoint) the skills and calibre of BE's drivers to be above reproach.


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    #38
    John R
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    RoundyMooney wrote:
    Well, judging purely by visual experience (as it's years since I boarded a BE bus), if there is a maintenance regime, it certainly doesn't extend to exterior cleanliness and bodywork.

    Nearly new buses that haven't seen their second Christmas yet sport missing panels, multiple battle scars, and exhaust residue and road grime all over them. It beggars belief that such a large capital investment as represented by a luxury coach is not subject to more rigorous upkeep and repair. Talk about false economy!

    You wouldn't by any chance live in Cork would you?

    The standards in BE's Cork depot are very poor, particularly regarding the appearance of their fleet. Minor things like dents, panels and paintwork are not taken care of for extended periods. It makes their fleet, which is now relatively modern look very poor.

    And don't even think of mentioning the bus wash that is incapable of washing any of the newer coaches with fixed mirrors.


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    #39
    Victor
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    Lump wrote:
    Meh, I've been in a similar situation as described above, and I don't think a million things go through your mind. I think the main this is that you get off the bus!
    I was in a car accident once. The car was full of smoke. I threw open the door, but I couldn't move. My life flashed before my eyes and that life was 3 seconds long. At which point I said 'screw this' and took off my seat belt. :)


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    #40
    Seth Brundle
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    Victor wrote:
    My life flashed before my eyes and that life was 3 seconds long.
    How much of the 3 seconds was of boards?


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    #41
    challengemaster
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    chillywilly wrote:
    after the fire was put out i asked the fireman what caused the fire but he said he didnt know. I told him where i was siting(very back, right over where it started) and he sadi that me and my friands were very lucky to be here. That kind of hit me that if the driver behind us didnt warn us of the smoke then the bus could have blown as we drove....which would have killed my friends and I first :eek:

    tbh you were actually more safe driving on. this may sound stupid but its true. if you look @ the fire triangle, fire needs 3 things to actually be lit. they're oxygen, flame, and fuel. now, while you were moving @ some sort of speed, its hard for the fire to take in oxygen, whereas when you stopped, it got proper oxygen and like you said, the bus lit up like a christmas tree.


    anyway, hope you're ok mate


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    #42
    Victor
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    kbannon wrote:
    How much of the 3 seconds was of boards?
    Erm, car full of smoke, me stuck. The three seconds were the expected length of my life from that point.


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    #43
    Capt'n Midnight
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    challengemaster wrote:
    tbh you were actually more safe driving on. this may sound stupid but its true. if you look @ the fire triangle, fire needs 3 things to actually be lit. they're oxygen, flame, and fuel. now, while you were moving @ some sort of speed, its hard for the fire to take in oxygen, whereas when you stopped, it got proper oxygen and like you said, the bus lit up like a christmas tree.
    Please explain,
    "Fanning the flames"
    Firestorms
    Jet engines


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    #44
    Thrill
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    challengemaster wrote:
    tbh you were actually more safe driving on. this may sound stupid but its true. if you look @ the fire triangle, fire needs 3 things to actually be lit. they're oxygen, flame, and fuel. now, while you were moving @ some sort of speed, its hard for the fire to take in oxygen, whereas when you stopped, it got proper oxygen and like you said, the bus lit up like a christmas tree.

    Exactly how long where they supposed to keep going for?
    And im sure the first thing that popped into the drivers head wasnt "hhmmm now how fast do i have to go to to make sure that the fire is starved of oxygen?"
    More like "lets get off this bleedin bus as fast as possible"


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    #45
    Ruu_Old
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    challengemaster wrote:
    tbh you were actually more safe driving on. this may sound stupid but its true. if you look @ the fire triangle, fire needs 3 things to actually be lit. they're oxygen, flame, and fuel. now, while you were moving @ some sort of speed, its hard for the fire to take in oxygen, whereas when you stopped, it got proper oxygen and like you said, the bus lit up like a christmas tree.

    Hehe, don't think that would work, old chum. :) Definitely no time to think about these sort of thing when its on fire, like the others have mentioned, you'd be "get me offa this cnut of a bus!"


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    #46
    DublinEvents
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    Yup, by the sounds of it, it does seem like the cause was something electrical, probably a short circuit. The picture of the bus is indeed grim. Maybe all the survivors should send a nice gift to the driver with a “Thanks for saving our lives!” note.


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    #47
    rossious
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    Gotta love boards, 1 bus incident, followed by lots of explanations, other BE stories, a train story and even a bus plan from Volvo. Bet the investigators just wait on here, print the completed thread, and file it as their accident report! :-p


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    #48
    johnnyrotten
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    challengemaster wrote:
    tbh you were actually more safe driving on. this may sound stupid but its true. if you look @ the fire triangle, fire needs 3 things to actually be lit. they're oxygen, flame, and fuel. now, while you were moving @ some sort of speed, its hard for the fire to take in oxygen, whereas when you stopped, it got proper oxygen and like you said, the bus lit up like a christmas tree.


    anyway, hope you're ok mate

    Triangle of Fire is actually Oxygen, Heat & Fuel


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    #49
    The_B_Man
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    its all a bit too Final Destination-y for me...

    you notice and random household items flying around or falling like a big evil murderous domino course?


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    #50
    deisedevil
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    rossious wrote:
    Gotta love boards, 1 bus incident, followed by lots of explanations, other BE stories, a train story and even a bus plan from Volvo. Bet the investigators just wait on here, print the completed thread, and file it as their accident report! :-p

    LMAO! Exactly what i was thinking.
    I know it seems to have been a scary experience for you op but i'd say tbh it was far from a life or death experience.


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