The Integrale - hot hatch or supercar?

Alfasudcrazy

Just wondered what you all think of the Lancia Delta Integrale. In particular is it just a fast hot hatch or could it be considered a supercar considering its rally winning heritage and appreciating values?

Anan1

I've never driven a supercar in anger, so I really couldn't compare it to one. That said, it doesn't really compare to any hot hatch I've ever driven either. I'm sure there are much faster cars out there, but I've never driven a car that felt so right. It really does become a part of you.

Blue850

Early ones are as "well built" as the Fiat Ritmo they're based on:D

mloc123

Its a "supercar beater"

smash

whatever category you want toput it in... it's still ugly!

ToxicPaddy

steve06 wrote:

whatever category you want toput it in... it's still ugly!

I wouldnt go as far as ugly, more like distinctive.. its not pretty by any means just something a little different.

Easy to spot on the road and ya know instantly what it is, without looking as flash as a typical supercar..

pburns

steve06 wrote:

whatever category you want toput it in... it's still ugly!

Nay, it's 'purposeful'!

Luv it. Streets ahead of Scoobys & Evos. Leagues ahead of God-awful Xsara WRC...

dahamsta

pburns wrote:

Luv it. Streets ahead of Scoobys & Evos. Leagues ahead of God-awful Xsara WRC...

Spot on. Those scoobys and evos are just plain wahmobiles at this stage; shadow moustache and baseball cap mandatory.

I look forward to the day I own an Integrale with lust, drool and accidental underwear stains. Escort Cosworth first though, got to earn me bars.

mike65

Pity the best ones are only Left hookers.

Mike

smash

still think it aint worth 20k+ there are a few on carzone....

Anan1

mike65 wrote:

Pity the best ones are only Left hookers.

Mike

They were only ever made in LHD, although some were converted using the steering rack from the FIAT Tempra TD..

mike65

I thought early models were avialible in small numbers RHD, I wuz wrong.

Mike.

Gatster

still think it aint worth 20k+ there are a few on carzone....

Probably not but when I'm in Airside tonight I may spin up to Michael Barrable and look at the one he's got. Bizarrely when I lived in Manchester they became a bit of a senior drug dealers car in about '92 (often in yellow, for some 'look at me' reason), but I still loved 'em. Still, I'd rather have an E30 M3 Sport Evolution.

Blue850

Anan1 wrote:

They were only ever made in LHD, although some were converted using the steering rack from the FIAT Tempra TD..

Think it was a Fiat Regatta (remember them??) TD rack

NeMiSiS

I thought a "Super Car" had to be capable of at least 200MPH?

Anan1

Blue850 wrote:

Think it was a Fiat Regatta (remember them??) TD rack

I think you're right.:)

Anan1

NeMiSiS wrote:

I thought a "Super Car" had to be capable of at least 200MPH?

That's a new one on me.

unkel

NeMiSiS wrote:

I thought a "Super Car" had to be capable of at least 200MPH?

There'd be very few supercars so

No new Ferrari for sale last year could reach that speed...

Henry Ford III

Fantastic yokes. A little temperamental, but it's Italian so you'd expect that.

Escort Cosworth's were the next step after these. They still make big money too.

TomMc

steve06 wrote:

whatever category you want toput it in... it's still ugly!

This is what you want !

www.walkersgarage.co.uk/hyena.htm

Personally, I always thought the Delta Integrale was attractive, if somewhat from the brutalist school of car design.

It is a timeless classic that has a presence no modern rally car ever will.

It has earned it's place in motoring/rallying history, along with the other great Lancia's. Sad to think that this company (pre Fiat ownership) was once the aristocrat of the motor industry, both in Italy and worldwide. (Their cars in the 50's and early 60's like for example the Aurelia B20's & Flavia's, were engineered to be the very best of the best, even if it meant making a loss ... when all other manufacturers were dumbing down in the name of profit).

dahamsta

Never saw that before. Cool, but look at the photo of the back of it; doesn't it look like the front of a car, only wonky?



Speaking of Italians cars, what was that lovely (imho) Alfa with three small square headlights arranged horizontally on either side? The individual units looked like the ones in the chin spoiler on a Diablo.

adam

Anan1

dahamsta wrote:

Never saw that before. Cool, but look at the photo of the back of it; doesn't it look like the front of a car, only wonky?



Speaking of Italians cars, what was that lovely (imho) Alfa with three small square headlights?

adam

I can't remember the exact name, but it was bodied by Zagato and as far as I recall had 75 3.0V6 running gear.

alfarocks

Thats the Alfa ES30. SZ coupe & RZ convertible

http://www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/alfa_sz.shtml

TomMc

Alfa SZ & RZ (Roadster).

dahamsta

That's the kiddy lads, thanks. Still a lovely design imho.

Anan1

Zagato did some wild & wonderful bodies for 50s and 60s Lancias too, google the Flaminia Sport & SuperSport, the Fulvia Sport (my first car) and (strangest of all) the Flavia Sport.

TomMc

Anan1 wrote:

Zagato did some wild & wonderful bodies for 50s and 60s Lancias too, google the Flaminia Sport & SuperSport, the Fulvia Sport (my first car) and (strangest of all) the Flavia Sport.

Some of my all time favourites are Lancia's. Richard Thorne always has a few nice ones for sale, in the UK ... www.rtcc.co.uk

RobAMerc

Supercar.
Which would you prefere down an Irish road some wet night Integrale or Countach ?

Gatster

Went to see it at Michael Barrable and it's mint as far as I can tell, but from the stickers appears to have been in Japan at some point. Irrespective, I sort of fell in love, to the point where I was thinking of ways to get my hands on it (they're a lot lower than I remembered), but then...

...It's 'sold as seen'. When I asked, the bloke said it would include VRT but no warranty or NCT, which makes the price seem excessive to say the least...

Henry Ford III

Do not buy it without an NCT.

Gatster

Do not buy it without an NCT.

Good God no. I would be keen if I had another daily driver, but no NCT and warranty displays a complete lack of faith in the car on the dealers part, so it's walk away job.