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List of Gun Clubs?

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  • 01-11-2006 4:38pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭


    Hi I was wondering where I could find a list of Gun Clubs in Ireland.


    I'm surprised this isnt a sticky?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭el tel


    I came to this forum this afternoon to ask the very same question!
    Specifically I'm looking for details of clay pigeon shooting clubs in Northern Ireland so if anyone knows of any contacts I'd appreciate it greatly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭E@gle.




  • Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    It's not a sticky because there is no definitive list joe; there is no definitive list because of personal security worries on the part of those who run several clubs. There are partial lists; the NARGC have a list of contacts for their clubs and there is a partial list of target shooting clubs here.

    All this will change in the new year with the commencement of the new Firearms Act changes because they will require a national list to be drawn up as a mandatory requirement for authorising clubs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Umiq88


    You can appreciate this sport isnt exactly treated the same way as other sports

    If you post up specifically what your looking for and the area your situated in someone should be able to tell you the nearest club


  • Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭duckmusic


    Does anybody know how i can get in contact with Dublin Rifle Club ???
    I see the are located in Blessington which would be perfect for me. I sent them an e-mail but didn't get any reply. Guess they don't check them too often :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭steve-hosting36


    Sorry to drag up an older thread, but can anyone recommend a good club for clays / some rifle in the Bray/Delgany/Greystones area? I've just had a really good session with one of the instructors up at courtlough and 'caught the bug' ! Just a pity Courtlough is soo far away!! :)

    TIA! Stephen


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭.243


    Sorry to drag up an older thread, but can anyone recommend a good club for clays / some rifle in the Bray/Delgany/Greystones area? I've just had a really good session with one of the instructors up at courtlough and 'caught the bug' ! Just a pity Courtlough is soo far away!! :)

    TIA! Stephen

    east coast sporting club in roundwood,formally named fassaroe club ,rifle,clays,pistol


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Also Hilltop, Rathdrum, DRC, BRC, all within about the same amount of driving time from the bray/greystones area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭fdisk


    Sorry to drag up an older thread, but can anyone recommend a good club for clays / some rifle in the Bray/Delgany/Greystones area? I've just had a really good session with one of the instructors up at courtlough and 'caught the bug' ! Just a pity Courtlough is soo far away!! :)

    TIA! Stephen

    There is also Bray Clay Pigeon Club, they have grounds just off Berryfield lane in Bray. No Rifle shooting but very good clay setup


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭steve-hosting36


    thanks guys - fdisk - you have a contact there?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭kiwijbob


    Hi,

    great info here lads (and ladies!)

    I've recently tried some clay pidgeon shooting, loved it
    and now I'm looking for a club where I can just turn up
    and maybe recieve instruction on proper handling and
    an hour shooting for a reasonable fee with a mind to joining
    in the future. :D

    I'm in north county dublin by the way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭de_shadow


    kiwijbob wrote:
    Hi,

    great info here lads (and ladies!)

    I've recently tried some clay pidgeon shooting, loved it
    and now I'm looking for a club where I can just turn up
    and maybe recieve instruction on proper handling and
    an hour shooting for a reasonable fee with a mind to joining
    in the future. :D

    I'm in north county dublin by the way.


    try courtlough in balbriggan http://www.courtlough.ie/ should be able to put you right


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭fdisk


    thanks guys - fdisk - you have a contact there?

    PM sent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭steve-hosting36


    Thanks fdisk - and yes, another vote for Courtlough - excellent facilities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭vlmaxis


    Sorry to drag up an older thread, but can anyone recommend a good club for clays / some rifle in the Bray/Delgany/Greystones area? I've just had a really good session with one of the instructors up at courtlough and 'caught the bug' ! Just a pity Courtlough is soo far away!! :)

    TIA! Stephen
    Contact Pat Cooke in hilltop quad, newtownmountkennedy/roundwood, shotgun, rifle, pistol and archery


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Anyone know of a target shooting club in the Cavan, Monaghon, Meath or Longford area?


  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭fathersymes


    Mourne Clay Shooting Ground, near Castleblayney. They also have an indoor range I believe. Shot clays there a few years ago, so no idea about their rifle setup.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 The_Irish_Dave


    I live here in Ireland and I want to shoot some guns ok? I don't want to bring my gun back to my house. I want it kept in the gun range where I go shooting thus eliminating any unlawful carrying of the weapon to and fro from the range and any accidents etc at home or robbery. So....why can't a legit gun range hold the gun for me in their safe etc? So I can buy/rent any gun I want through the range, use it there and then and it's all safe and above board? It could even be a law that you can't take it from the range to keep any opposing gun folk happy. What exactly is the problem with this idea? That way law abiding folk who want to shoot some guns can do so and there's no danger of the guns being let loose on the street. What do you guys think?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    I live here in Ireland and I want to shoot some guns ok? I don't want to bring my gun back to my house. I want it kept in the gun range where I go shooting thus eliminating any unlawful carrying of the weapon to and fro from the range and any accidents etc at home or robbery. So....why can't a legit gun range hold the gun for me in their safe etc? So I can buy/rent any gun I want through the range, use it there and then and it's all safe and above board? It could even be a law that you can't take it from the range to keep any opposing gun folk happy. What exactly is the problem with this idea? That way law abiding folk who want to shoot some guns can do so and there's no danger of the guns being let loose on the street. What do you guys think?

    Firstly if you want to shoot get some lessons and you can use a range gun.

    You cannot be in possession of a firearm without a firearms certificate so once you have a licence you are not breaking the law, you also must have adequate security for the fire arm in the home and during transit.

    Any gun dealer and or range once they have a licence in theory can store your firearm for you (at a cost)

    consider rephrasing your questions all licenced firearms holders and authorised ranges are 100% legit.

    If I spend €2500 on a firearm I want to keep it safe, in my home in my safe.

    Hope this helps

    PS Martin Gilliland (Mourne Shooting grounds) or Liam Flynn in Courtlough can sort you out with lessons ditto for other grounds


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    I live here in Ireland and I want to shoot some guns ok? I don't want to bring my gun back to my house. I want it kept in the gun range where I go shooting thus eliminating any unlawful carrying of the weapon to and fro from the range and any accidents etc at home or robbery. So....why can't a legit gun range hold the gun for me in their safe etc? So I can buy/rent any gun I want through the range, use it there and then and it's all safe and above board? It could even be a law that you can't take it from the range to keep any opposing gun folk happy. What exactly is the problem with this idea? That way law abiding folk who want to shoot some guns can do so and there's no danger of the guns being let loose on the street. What do you guys think?

    If the range is suitable (i.e. secure enough to hold firearms - many aren't) and your superintendent is OK with it, there's nothing stopping you from storing your firearm at a range.

    In general though, it's safer to keep a firearm at home where access is more tightly controlled than at a range and where there'll be people around at night. If you do decide to store a firearm at a range, make sure you know exactly who else will have access to it (your superintendent will probably want to know this anyway).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 The_Irish_Dave


    Yeah ok but what I am asking is can it be like in the states where anyone can walk off the street to a range and shoot some guns without having a license? Also maybe making it easier for people to own a gun if it's only kept at a range like some sort of restriction?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    Yeah ok but what I am asking is can it be like in the states where anyone can walk off the street to a range and shoot some guns without having a license? QUOTE]

    I hope and I'd say I speak for most lads hear that this isnt going to happen and never will. Part of the reason why you need a licence is the Gardai will check you out. Ditto in relation to getting into a club, If anyone can walk of the street to use a firearm, then all control is lost. The present system although frustrating by times, works quite well,

    this isnt America


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    Yeah ok but what I am asking is can it be like in the states where anyone can walk off the street to a range and shoot some guns without having a license?

    That is possible in some ranges, typically only for shotgun shooting. It's not quite "walk in off the street", you typically book ahead. I suspect that many range operators would be suspicious of people just turning up out of the blue.
    Also maybe making it easier for people to own a gun if it's only kept at a range like some sort of restriction?

    That's definitely a possibility here. A superintendent could attach that condition to a firearm certificate if he wanted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 The_Irish_Dave


    Yes. Have a restriction on it so it keeps the Garda happy that you only can use it at the range. This is what I'm getting at. This could even open up the restriction on the type of guns you can shoot here. Once it's all at the range what does it matter? I'm not taking it home.

    in reply to cavan shooter I don't see how any control is lost if people can walk in off the street and shoot at the range. They're not taking the guns off the premises. It's more control than anything. You could even propose two options. 1: for having guns limited to the ranges which would open up a wider range of guns available to shoot for the public 2: having a restriction on your license to shoot/possess at the range only.

    This is more control not less. I'm just trying to get around these very strict laws where I can shoot something other than a bloody .22 or shotgun and keeping the Garda happy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    Dave its not the control of the firearm, its control over who is using the firearm.

    With a very open range like the one you describe, The point is that anyone can go and shoot anything.

    was there not an article in a paper a while back about a leading gang land figure sending his "lads" to eastern europe on "stag weekends" to get some practice in.

    BTW whats wrong with .22 or shotgun (both go bang)


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Dave its not the control of the firearm, its control over who is using the firearm.
    With a very open range like the one you describe, The point is that anyone can go and shoot anything.
    Precisely. There have been very nasty incidents in the states where commercial gun ranges operate on the walk-in-and-shoot model. It's just not a good idea for us to try to operate that way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 The_Irish_Dave


    Yeah of course people like that are going to tarnish the name of anywhere. You can still insist on proper ID before you shoot anything so you have a record of who is actually shooting there along with CCTV at the range if any Garda need that info. Sure it would be the most stupidly obvious place a gangster would go to, to "practice". They're not stupid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Proper ID wouldn't help. If it's not illegal to do this, then how could CCTV footage of a gangster help? It wouldn't be admissable in court, and if the Gardai already know he's dodgy, how would this add to that knowlege?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 The_Irish_Dave


    I think proper ID would help anything like a gun club or range because it's a record of who is using guns there, also means you don't run off with the thing if your passport of driving license is behind the desk until you return it. As for gangsters there's not much you can do about them I agree but any info of their where abouts is useful I suppose. I don't know.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Look, first off, all ranges already have proper ID taken as part of your membership paperwork.
    Secondly, it's legal to use a range if you're a member, so the fact that some gangster uses a range can't be used in a court. The odds of a gangster who's known to the Gardai being given a licence, however, are rather minimal - and that's where the control of the situation lies right now.
    If you had walk-ins being rented guns like you're talking about, then that control wouldn't exist and people would be a lot more nervous. So it's just not permitted by law.


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