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Am I the only one who doesn't think I have enough time to study for Xmas exams?

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  • 01-11-2006 9:24pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭


    Tbh, I think this is a bit of a joke. Previously, I would have had all of the Easter holidays plus all that time at the end of the year when a lot of my subjects had either wrapped up or were wrapping up and I had a lot of time to study. This year, I have 9-5/6 about 4 days a week for November and then a whopping week off before exams. Anyone else think this is a bit tight?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Stepherunie


    I join you on that one.

    I have to go on clinical placement and my charming school informed me I needed no study space or internet access despite being sent outside Dublin. I was politely informed 'you're going on clinical not studying'. How very kind they are considering these exams account for 30% of my degree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭nando


    It is tough but you get used to it - it's prob just that your not used to the new system. We had Christmas exams every year and no study week at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    *gets ready to level up her cramming skills*


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭breadmonkey


    The thing that p!sses me off the most is that this year I have been really good for coming into lectures and making sure I have all my notes and know what's going on in all of my subjects (well, most!). I thought this would drastically reduce the sick cramming I did last year but obviously not. 2nd semester should be much easier by comparison with Easter off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,169 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    The thing that p!sses me off the most is that this year I have been really good for coming into lectures and making sure I have all my notes and know what's going on in all of my subjects (well, most!). I thought this would drastically reduce the sick cramming I did last year but obviously not. 2nd semester should be much easier by comparison with Easter off.
    This is just mental anxiety over the level of preparation you think you should have. If you've had good attendance and kept up with your notes than 'cramming' won't require nearly as much effort as if it was a full year.

    Also cramming implies you need to shove everything in your head in a very short period of time when the reality is you're only going over what you already know.

    I was kind of the same coming from finals to fe1s, a totally different approach to study was needed and a much different level of knowledge of was required. The fact that I only had a broad knowledge of a number of topics (unlike indepth knowledge of a few) kept making me think that I was drastically unprepared.

    Remember, there is less to learn and the exams are shorter.

    Although on a side note, you're doing Engineering, of course you've a big workload, what did you expect?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭tywy


    us engineers expected the traditional degree structure. we didn't expect to be modularised. i'm so bitter!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭TheVan


    Jeez....I haven't enough time at all!

    Fúcking arts get a "reading week".....I would do so much with a reading week!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭breadmonkey


    Sangre wrote:
    This is just mental anxiety over the level of preparation you think you should have. If you've had good attendance and kept up with your notes than 'cramming' won't require nearly as much effort as if it was a full year.

    Also cramming implies you need to shove everything in your head in a very short period of time when the reality is you're only going over what you already know.

    I was kind of the same coming from finals to fe1s, a totally different approach to study was needed and a much different level of knowledge of was required. The fact that I only had a broad knowledge of a number of topics (unlike indepth knowledge of a few) kept making me think that I was drastically unprepared.

    Remember, there is less to learn and the exams are shorter.

    Although on a side note, you're doing Engineering, of course you've a big workload, what did you expect?
    1st and 2nd year Eng was actually a p!ss take as far as I'm concerned. And this isn't mental anxiety, it's a pain in the hole.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭breadmonkey


    TheVan wrote:
    Jeez....I haven't enough time at all!

    Fúcking arts get a "reading week".....I would do so much with a reading week!
    Wurd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭Chakar


    TheVan wrote:
    Jeez....I haven't enough time at all!

    Fúcking arts get a "reading week".....I would do so much with a reading week!

    Yay! :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    I have to admit I have put off thinking about it. The fact that there were no august repeats this year mean I have to resit two subjects from last year too. I am quite literally screwed!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭TheVan


    Chakar wrote:
    Yay! :)

    Dossers


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭elmyra


    TheVan wrote:
    Dossers

    Quite frankly I think reading week is entirely justified given the number of texts my courses require me to cover and the fact that due to departments being very very silly and standardising essay due dates I have 5 essays due after said reading week.

    In fact, with 8 essays due before Christmas, with a total expected work count of 16,000 words and a term of 12 weeks, I need to do more than 1,000 words of an essay every week along with reading for double the amount of tutorials and twice the number of lecture courses that 3rd years doing my subjects had last year.

    Just because some people on this board have chosen to uphold and encourage the misconception of the Arts workload by using silly icons to grate on others who don't have a reading week doesn't mean that others aren't making the best use possible of it while also working and doing societies stuff like every other week.

    You might notice that some of us Arts heads haven't even been on boards in the past week, a couple of names come to mind, and others of us like me have just been popping by for a read. Going back to the point of the thread, no I'm not fit to sit any Christmas exams because one of my departments isn't having exams and have given us essays due in the middle of when the other department are holding them. Thank you S&M, another fine mess you've gotten me into.


    Aggggghhhhh, I hate UCD.

    Don't call me a dosser because I don't have lectures, call me a dosser if I don't make use of the fact that I don't have lectures, and if you have to read as many texts as I do (I'm thinking 20+ novels for my core English courses, 3 different core texts for history lecture courses, a whole host of essay reading) then get on to your department, because you just might deserve a week off too.

    Terribly sorry, rant over, very stressed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭Chakar


    TheVan wrote:
    Dossers

    Not so TheVan..

    I agree with what Sinead said, we do get a lot of essays I for example have three essays to do which granted is not as much as the third years but I still need to do my reading on top of that as well.

    The essay due dates really don't help in subjects like History which I don't do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭fish-head


    My god I've only started doing any work today... Stupid stupid stupid. I've been very busy preparing for gigs and stuff though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,169 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Everyone else is in the exact same boat so it all evens outs. If the exams are harder than the standard will drop and it'll be the same top 10 getting 1st etc.,


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭gubbie


    elmyra wrote:
    Quite frankly I think reading week is entirely justified given the number of texts my courses require me to cover and the fact that due to departments being very very silly and standardising essay due dates I have 5 essays due after said reading week.

    In fact, with 8 essays due before Christmas, with a total expected work count of 16,000 words and a term of 12 weeks, I need to do more than 1,000 words of an essay every week along with reading for double the amount of tutorials and twice the number of lecture courses that 3rd years doing my subjects had last year.

    Just because some people on this board have chosen to uphold and encourage the misconception of the Arts workload by using silly icons to grate on others who don't have a reading week doesn't mean that others aren't making the best use possible of it while also working and doing societies stuff like every other week.

    You might notice that some of us Arts heads haven't even been on boards in the past week, a couple of names come to mind, and others of us like me have just been popping by for a read. Going back to the point of the thread, no I'm not fit to sit any Christmas exams because one of my departments isn't having exams and have given us essays due in the middle of when the other department are holding them. Thank you S&M, another fine mess you've gotten me into.


    Aggggghhhhh, I hate UCD.

    Don't call me a dosser because I don't have lectures, call me a dosser if I don't make use of the fact that I don't have lectures, and if you have to read as many texts as I do (I'm thinking 20+ novels for my core English courses, 3 different core texts for history lecture courses, a whole host of essay reading) then get on to your department, because you just might deserve a week off too.

    Terribly sorry, rant over, very stressed.
    Rant rant rant. Nothing annoys me more then when Arts students complain about the amount of work ye get.STOP COMPLAINING YE DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD YE GOT IT. Ye only have about 10 hours of lectures a week. We have 28 and believe me you do not get more work then us. For every hour that we spend in class we are supposed to spend 2 hours doing homework, researching and learning bringing our beautiful course up to about 70 hours of work A WEEK. Difference is though, we don't get a week off to study. I know anyone in health science will agree with me here, maybe not on the hours but definitely on the work load.

    How often do you see engineers, health science students, vets et all bumming around the place? Never. You have a week to do this work that I assume you were given at the start of the year (I mean the reading not the essays). If ye guys did half as much work in reading these as the other students do in just trying to keep on top of their courses then you'd have them finished way before now.

    And we all have midterms bearing down on us. For now its a pain, but when Christmas comes I think we'll be happy that our love that is circuits is not all due at one time
    Chakar wrote:
    The essay due dates really don't help in subjects like History which I don't do.
    And if you're not good at dates in history then you're kinda in the wrong subject

    Thats all folks... only another 3 hours of lectures today


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    gubbie wrote:
    Rant rant rant. Nothing annoys me more then when Arts students complain about the amount of work ye get.STOP COMPLAINING YE DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD YE GOT IT. Ye only have about 10 hours of lectures a week. We have 28 and believe me you do not get more work then us. For every hour that we spend in class we are supposed to spend 2 hours doing homework, researching and learning bringing our beautiful course up to about 70 hours of work A WEEK. Difference is though, we don't get a week off to study. I know anyone in health science will agree with me here, maybe not on the hours but definitely on the work load.

    How often do you see engineers, health science students, vets et all bumming around the place? Never. You have a week to do this work that I assume you were given at the start of the year (I mean the reading not the essays). If ye guys did half as much work in reading these as the other students do in just trying to keep on top of their courses then you'd have them finished way before now.

    And we all have midterms bearing down on us. For now its a pain, but when Christmas comes I think we'll be happy that our love that is circuits is not all due at one time


    And if you're not good at dates in history then you're kinda in the wrong subject

    Thats all folks... only another 3 hours of lectures today

    Haha so true:) poor ikkle arts students:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭Anton17


    Bear in mind that each of our '10' lectures a week represents a different text, be it a novel, play or medieval poem often several hundred pages long which require a detailed in depth reading. Attribute a minimum of 5 hours to each of these texts and that adds up to a 50+ hour week.
    Then add secondary reading of critical texts and articles, necessary if we are to achieve anything greater than a 2.2. Easy???
    I am not so ignorant to assume I know how your courses work and make lazy statements about your workload. Do us the same service.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭fish-head


    Ah who gives a flying donkey anyway.. Pack of whiners.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    Anton17 wrote:
    Bear in mind that each of our '10' lectures a week represents a different text, be it a novel, play or medieval poem often several hundred pages long which require a detailed in depth reading. Attribute a minimum of 5 hours to each of these texts and that adds up to a 50+ hour week.
    Then add secondary reading of critical texts and articles, necessary if we are to achieve anything greater than a 2.2. Easy???
    I am not so ignorant to assume I know how your courses work and make lazy statements about your workload. Do us the same service.

    QFT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Mr_Roger_Bongos


    Tbh, I think this is a bit of a joke. Previously, I would have had all of the Easter holidays plus all that time at the end of the year when a lot of my subjects had either wrapped up or were wrapping up and I had a lot of time to study. This year, I have 9-5/6 about 4 days a week for November and then a whopping week off before exams. Anyone else think this is a bit tight?

    Stop Posting and GET BACK TO WORK!!! You don't have much time!!

    :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭singingstranger


    /me has no exams at Christmas and 14 hours a week

    /me has exams in February

    /me thinks it balances out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Samos


    Can't believe my finals are in five weeks. I don't have time to study for them because all of the interim effort goes towards working on the assignments that always seem tobe due the next day! But on the bright side, I think the continuous assessment is a boon that allows one to swot up on the course material while icking up marks along the way. It all amounts to a mre measured approach to study rather that the three week cram before exams that are worth 100% for each subject.

    /me thinks singingstranger's expression of thoughts is bizarre

    /me has realised that it's contagious...


  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭the evil lime


    *gets ready to level up her cramming skills*

    This is one of those rare situations where grinding might work in the real world...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Anton17 wrote:
    Bear in mind that each of our '10' lectures a week represents a different text, be it a novel, play or medieval poem often several hundred pages long which require a detailed in depth reading. Attribute a minimum of 5 hours to each of these texts and that adds up to a 50+ hour week.
    Then add secondary reading of critical texts and articles, necessary if we are to achieve anything greater than a 2.2. Easy???
    I am not so ignorant to assume I know how your courses work and make lazy statements about your workload. Do us the same service.
    Yes. Easy.

    Ive gone to history, english and politics lectures for first, second and third arts. The material was basic.

    Ive read many of the books for the lecturers I dropped in on.
    The material was recapped well enough in the lectureres and i think any of the essays could be done just from reading notes and summarys, and I know many people who do do this.

    Now you can cry that each lecture has a different core text, thats the same for everyone. Each of my lectures not only have their own core and secondary texts but they are completly different subjects and require different skill sets. What I mean is, the skills I need for statistic are useless when doing marketing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Umaro


    They just like to pamper us Quinn students because we're going to be making megabucks tomorrow (supposedly) and they want donations further down the line.

    I don't mind being pampered though. The nicest words a student can read are "Some food and refreshments will be served."


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭gubbie


    How do you know none of the other colleges don't do it... but just don't gloat about it like the Quinn school??

    *zing*
    :)
    Viva il eng block
    (the fence around the Quinn building is a bit tricky seeing as I gotta get it stamped first)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭the evil lime


    They make it sound like you need to read all the texts in commerce....


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