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dell crap on there laptops

  • 07-11-2006 10:19am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,713 ✭✭✭✭


    how do i delete some of there **** stuff on the laptop like Mc Afee
    AOL ,dell network assistance

    and how come i cant stop dell network assistance coming up every time i turn on the pc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Have you went into "msconfig" and stopped the network assistant from starting. I'm pretty sure there is also an option within the assistant to stop it from starting each time you boot. For McAfee, best option is to reboot in safe mode and uninstall from there.


  • Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just do a format. Its much more easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Would it not be under add/remove programs for mcafee? Oh and i assume you have an alternative to put on? You are not planning on using it without an AV are you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Just do a format. Its much more easy.


    I don't think it is. I don't format the dells that arrive in here. Takes about 20mins to take the ****e off them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,713 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    petes wrote:
    Have you went into "msconfig" and stopped the network assistant from starting. I'm pretty sure there is also an option within the assistant to stop it from starting each time you boot. For McAfee, best option is to reboot in safe mode and uninstall from there.
    i went within dell network assistance and stopped it but no luck and once i have mcafee unstalled ill be installing another av


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,713 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Saruman wrote:
    Would it not be under add/remove programs for mcafee ?
    could i do that for all the ****e on the laptop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    A lot of it.. I mean just go in there.. look at the programs list and uninstall what you do not want!


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,164 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    I did exactly what you're talking about last week. Can all be done though start menu / add remove programs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,713 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    MarkR wrote:
    I did exactly what you're talking about last week. Can all be done though start menu / add remove programs.
    nice one

    did it speed up the laptop alot


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,164 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Yep. Mccaffe and that dell network crap were really slowing it down on startup. Got avg pro put on instead, and uninstalled all the crap I'll never use.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,713 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    any draw backs to getting rid of dell network assistance

    and all this wont effect my warrenty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    any draw backs to getting rid of dell network assistance

    and all this wont effect my warrenty


    Nope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,713 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    petes wrote:
    Nope.
    thanks petes,MarkR and Saruman for your advice

    looking forward to getting the ****e off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    It's gotten really out of hand lately. A user with a basic Celeron M and 256mb ram can barely use their machine for the first few minutes there's so much unnecessary crap going on at once. Add/Remove programs is all you need though, a format would take too long and then you'd have to reinstall all your drivers etc, just hassle you don't need.

    And if you think DELL are bad never get a Sony, when I first turned on mine there were - no joke - about 20 icons on the desktop for all this useless junk that took me about 40 minutes to uninstall it all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,713 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    HavoK wrote:
    It's gotten really out of hand lately. A user with a basic Celeron M and 256mb ram can barely use their machine for the first few minutes there's so much unnecessary crap going on at once. Add/Remove programs is all you need though, a format would take too long and then you'd have to reinstall all your drivers etc, just hassle you don't need.

    And if you think DELL are bad never get a Sony, when I first turned on mine there were - no joke - about 20 icons on the desktop for all this useless junk that took me about 40 minutes to uninstall it all.
    wow the companies must begetting tonnes of cash to put all that crap on there laptops/desktops

    by the way whats the best free av out there which will protect when using a credit card online etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,841 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    I prefer the format myself, just knowing theres absolutely no trace of unnecessary shoite left, no desktop pictures, dell set information and aswell all the programs. A full format really isn't that much hassle, the time involved by the user for a format is actually only about 5 minutes to set the language, time and all that, it's the waiting for the jobs that takes long, although less than an hour, you'd have it done while you were watching a tv show. Then installing the drivers back might take about 20 minutes, if you have the driver CD's it's no problem though, just don't restart the machine after every install and you'll fly through it:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,713 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    iv most of the stuff deleted except for mcafee

    im just wondering is dell quickset any use ,should i delete it and is net waiting any use

    and whats the best antivirus freeware out in the market today


  • Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That would be AVG.

    Interesting aside: When I got partition magic up and running on one of my Dells, I found a couple of hidden partitions. Was not impressed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    AVG or Anti-Vir for freeware anti-virus and Add/Remove as has been mentioned, will do just fine for getting rid of the Dell rubbish, have done it a number of times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭walshki


    Personally I did a format when I got my laptop last week and I'm delighted with the difference in performance compared to when I first got it. I used the guide at this link http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=67545 which I found very useful. The drivers was the tricky part because even though I copied those that were on the laptop when it came and then put them back on after the reformat I still had to download a couple so I'd admit its not for everyone (then again I'm far from the most technically advanced person on this forum).

    There's also a thread on optimising the performance by using msconfig etc at this link http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=67545

    Even if you don't reformat a little bit of work on the startup on msconfig is worth it. A lot of crap runs in the background that you have no need for (don't ask me for a list decide for yourself). One example is qttask which is quicktime. When I disabled this on my desktop it made a big difference (although I could still launch QT if I wanted) so I didn't lose anything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    That would be AVG.

    Interesting aside: When I got partition magic up and running on one of my Dells, I found a couple of hidden partitions. Was not impressed.


    Would one of them been the system restore partition?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    I haven't tried this but keep bumping into it - used to be called the Dell Decrapifier
    http://www.yorkspace.com/pc-de-crapifier/
    The user can select exactly what is uninstalled from the list below

    * QuickBooks Trial
    * NetZero Installers
    * Earthlink Setup Files
    * Corel Photo Album 6
    * Tiscali Internet
    * Wanadoo Europe Installer
    * Get High Speed Internet!
    * Internet Service Offers Launcher
    * Dell Search Assistant
    * Norton Ghost 10.0
    * Symantec Live Update
    * MS Plus Photo Story 2LE
    * MS Plus Digital Media Installer
    * McAffee
    * Norton Internet Security
    * Google Desktop
    * AOL US
    * AOL UK
    * MusicMatch Jukebox
    * MusicMatch Music Services
    * Wild Tangent Games
    * Norton AntiVirus 2005
    * Norton Security Center
    * Norton AntiSpam
    * PC-cillin Internet Security 12
    * Run Registry Entries
    * Desktop Icons
    * Corel WordPerfect
    * Roxio RecordNow
    * Sonic DLA
    * Sonic Update Manager
    * Sonic RecordNow Audio
    * Sonic RecordNow Copy
    * Roxio MyDVD LE
    * Microsoft Office Standard Edition 2003
    * Quicken 2006


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    Uninstall the crap form the add/remove programs and run a reg cleaner (if you know what you are doing, I recommend Hi Jack This!) and check out Msconfig and turn off any unwanted applications starting up that aren't required.

    Also clean out your prefetch folder in C:\windows\prefetch which tells windows what files to cache on startup which slows the system down. Don't delete the .ini file in this directory.

    That should clean out most of the crap I think or just reinstall XP. Not all of the above is neccessary but it won't hurt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,841 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Jebus, just had a look at my MSCONFIG thingy. I've about 100 services listed. About 40 stopped and 60 running. How do I know which ones I need as there's no explantion, just names which don't mean anything to me!

    There's also about 20 items in the startup tab.

    Does this mean there's a load of shoite I don't actually use running when I start up? I'm a bit too afraid to go near anything.:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭subway


    20 items on stratup means 20 things run on startup ;)
    it may be unneeded buit may be very necesary too.
    intel gma has about 4 processes on startup,
    av can have 5 or more
    bluetooth is another 3 and so on...

    in the services tab, there should be a button to "hide microsoft services"
    tick that and you should be left with about 15 services.
    use google to identify what they are and disable if neccesary

    with the startup tab you may be able to id programs based on the path it shows,
    if notjust google for each of the program names and disbable as neccesary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,713 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    on avg theres no fire wall

    will i have to get a seperate firewall?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,841 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    subway wrote:
    20 items on stratup means 20 things run on startup ;)
    it may be unneeded buit may be very necesary too.
    intel gma has about 4 processes on startup,
    av can have 5 or more
    bluetooth is another 3 and so on...

    in the services tab, there should be a button to "hide microsoft services"
    tick that and you should be left with about 15 services.
    use google to identify what they are and disable if neccesary

    with the startup tab you may be able to id programs based on the path it shows,
    if notjust google for each of the program names and disbable as neccesary.

    Cool thanks for that, yeah I knew 20 items means 20 run at start up;):p

    Are all the microsoft ones deffo necessary? When I clicked hide, about 15 were left. So all of the 80 or so MS ones are completely necessary?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭Blub2k4


    Why would you want to remove the Mcafee that will run for months until the sub runs out for free software?
    It's not such a large footprint, or am I spoiled with 1.5gb ram on my Dell?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,713 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    why i want to get rid of it
    is because it slows down the laptop

    iv 2gb ram but when i turn on th laptop i have to wait for mcafee to start up :rolleyes: then i can play my games etc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭subway


    cormie wrote:
    Cool thanks for that, yeah I knew 20 items means 20 run at start up;):p

    Are all the microsoft ones deffo necessary? When I clicked hide, about 15 were left. So all of the 80 or so MS ones are completely necessary?
    generally theyre all part of the OS,
    the only additonla ones running may be windows firewall, windows search messenger, office source engine and things like that.
    but the good thing about them is that they can be stopped from their own locations.

    to blub2k4,
    many people would want to install mcafee for 1 reason - its bloated ****e.
    its not as reliable as other antivirus and takes more work to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,713 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    subway wrote:
    to blub2k4,
    many people would want to install mcafee for 1 reason - its bloated ****e.
    its not as reliable as other antivirus and takes more work to do it.
    i got rid of mcafee and installed avg
    my systems runs way faster now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 405 ✭✭peepingtom


    i have macafee installed on my new dell laptop .... runs perfectly well with it ... however i downloaded avg on my other notebook, and it was garbage .... every time i received a mail or sent one, some stupid big ass notice with my email address repeated over and over kept popping up .... this even happened when i wasnt sending mail ..... unistalled it straight away

    imo you are better off just uninstalling all the crap dell put on that you dont want ... starting from scratch by formatting as some have suggested seems a little extreme


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,841 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    peepingtom wrote:
    i have macafee installed on my new dell laptop .... runs perfectly well with it ... however i downloaded avg on my other notebook, and it was garbage .... every time i received a mail or sent one, some stupid big ass notice with my email address repeated over and over kept popping up .... this even happened when i wasnt sending mail ..... unistalled it straight away

    imo you are better off just uninstalling all the crap dell put on that you dont want ... starting from scratch by formatting as some have suggested seems a little extreme

    You can turn that off, thankfully:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    Avast is the best free AV IMO. Windows firewall should be enabled default on a new machine.

    I'd worry more about startup items than services. Only really the Anti-Virus and firewall etc.. and some other services like iTunes/iPod ones are in that list.

    In Startup, you should look at the command tab and look at the directory it is using (some won't have these, ignore them is the safest bet).

    It should be somewhat obvious which ones you can turn off from reading the command tab directory. For example, I have Adobe Acrobat Reader disabled so it doesn't start up on system start up. I also have Quicktime disabled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭walshki


    There's also a thread on optimising the performance by using msconfig etc at this link http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=67545

    Re the above the correct link is
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=5787
    In particular there's a link in there to
    http://www.windowsstartup.com/wso/search.php
    Which tells you what different startup items do. E.g. I put in DataLayer and was told this was
    'Nokia PC Suite 5 - "A collection of powerful tools that you can use to manage your phone features and data." What does it do and is it required?'

    I have no need for that on startup so I disabled it.

    You can do the same with services running in the background by clicking start run and typing services.msc

    Check what each service is for at
    http://snakefoot.fateback.com/tweak/winnt/services.html
    and disable if you're sure you don't want it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    peepingtom wrote:
    i have macafee installed on my new dell laptop .... runs perfectly well with it ... however i downloaded avg on my other notebook, and it was garbage .... every time i received a mail or sent one, some stupid big ass notice with my email address repeated over and over kept popping up .... this even happened when i wasnt sending mail ..... unistalled it straight away

    imo you are better off just uninstalling all the crap dell put on that you dont want ... starting from scratch by formatting as some have suggested seems a little extreme

    I've never had that problem with AVG in all the years I've been using it. I wonder why there was a big ass message though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,841 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    I've never had that problem with AVG in all the years I've been using it. I wonder why there was a big ass message though.

    It's from the email scanner. If you don't have outlook/thunderbird etc, maybe that's why you haven't seen it? I had the message turned off before, then updated to the new AVG and had to turn it off again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    cormie wrote:
    It's from the email scanner. If you don't have outlook/thunderbird etc, maybe that's why you haven't seen it? I had the message turned off before, then updated to the new AVG and had to turn it off again.

    Ah thats why. So its user config issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 405 ✭✭peepingtom


    cormie wrote:
    It's from the email scanner. If you don't have outlook/thunderbird etc, maybe that's why you haven't seen it? I had the message turned off before, then updated to the new AVG and had to turn it off again.

    yeah using thunderbird ... how do you turn of off cormie? ... i swear i looked but couldnt work it out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,841 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    To be honest, I'm not too sure. I think you launch the control centre, then click properties of email scanner, then click properties in the window it opens and make sure show information window is not ticked. I think;)


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