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EGAR

Irhs Pounds destruction rates 2003/04/05 - courtesy of ANVIL. It makes sad reading and for me as a rescue it feels like swimming against a string current which never slows down.

racso1975

Jez they are truly shocking and disgusting figures.

Can you or anybody explain what happened in leitrim to cause such a drop in the figures when the rest of the country either stayed the same or doubled :eek:

EGAR

Leitrim is relatively small and the rescues there have been able to take most dogs out of the pounds.

Nala

Jesus Carlow shot up but Limerick city depresses me the most.
A lot of dogs are given to pounds because they got too big/wouldn't behave etc (if people did more research before they got the dog...)... It would help if more people would adopt dogs from pounds rather than buy them from breeders but I have made a thread about that before and it seemed a lot of people disagreed

Tabitharose

Nala wrote:

but Limerick city depresses me the most

if you want to get really depressed about Limerick, have a look at the cruelty cases on Limerick Animal Welfare site.

The more people who get pen to paper & write to their tds / county councillors on this subject the better, the ANVIL website has sample letters, as well as the names & contact details

FranknFurter

Nala wrote:

It would help if more people would adopt dogs from pounds rather than buy them from breeders but I have made a thread about that before and it seemed a lot of people disagreed

The majority of people agreed with that being true actually Nala. What they disagreed with was being made feel like they were awful people if they decided to use a breeder.

B

Garth

The problem isn't people not adopting from pounds.

How all these dogs end up in the pounds has to be addressed. Until that happens, nothing will change.

Chances are puppy famers, have-a-go-joes and backyard breeders who are completely clueless but looking to make easy money are mainly to blame. Not well meaning people buying well socialised pets from reputable breeders.

Those figures are a national disgrace.

ladyez

What makes me sick is that I know someone who last week paid 1500e for 2 puppies, when they could have went to a pound and found a great friend there. Its disguisting and saddening.

Nala

ladyez wrote:

What makes me sick is that I know someone who last week paid 1500e for 2 puppies, when they could have went to a pound and found a great friend there. Its disguisting and saddening.

what a dog shelter could do with €1500.......

Jules

i dont think anything has made me that sad in a long time. i can understand how those figures would undoubtly get to you egar. Unfortunatly the pb v cross arguement has been kicked around too often and its basically supply and demand. Unfortunatly until people change their attitudes to crossbreed and also neutering of dogs and cat, wonder how many of those little cuties have been destroyed, im afraid these figures will just increase.

truely is heart breaking stuff.

mjffey

racso1975 wrote:

Jez they are truly shocking and disgusting figures.

Can you or anybody explain what happened in leitrim to cause such a drop in the figures when the rest of the country either stayed the same or doubled :eek:

leitrim animal welfare ships dogs every week to the UK. They have their own truck and full time driver. For every dog they send over to a UK shelter a UK dog will have to be putt down because the space is taken by an irish dog.

leitrim calls this rehoming. My ************ This has nothing to do with rehoming or animal welfare. This has all to do with making your numbers look nice.

EGAR

Alot of rescues do that and I re-home to the UK as well albeit not to other rescues there. If you look at the actual number, mjffey, then you'll see that your statement has no hand and foot.

PTS'd in Ireland 2005 in pounds: 16.546 (source Anvil)

Ireland has not even 5 million inhabitants.

PTS'd in UK 2005 in pounds: 7,743 (source Dog Trust)

UK has over 60 million inhabitants.

mjffey

Egar,

If you don't have problems with animals being shipped to shelters to the UK where they will be put in a kennel and take the place of another animal. If you don't mind that they sit in cages and have a stressfull time durig the trip to the UK; sometimes for up to 48 hours without food or water. If you don't have a problem that there can't be any home checks done.

Fine with me. I think different. For me animals go first before making the numbers look nice.

EGAR

What do you mean, no HCs?? I have a string of HCers in the UK, there is great connection there! All my transports are done by volunteers, none of my dogs are shut in the back of a van and/or are being doped to the gills. I already said that I do not give dogs to other shelters but DO re-home to the UK. I even have foster families in the UK who take in individuell dogs from me if needed. So you are barking up the wrong tree, mate. I do not use professional transporters and never have .

mjffey

Hi Egar,

I didn't attack you.

Thanks for your email btw. I replied to that.

have anice weekend

cotton

These destruction rates aren't just for cross breeds. There are a lot of pure breeds in the pounds too.
Yes, some of these figures have dropped with rescues taking them out/shipping them elsewhere. But it's a false positivity.
Prevention is better than cure. If everyone got their dogs from the pounds, the supply would still far out weigh the demand. It's like trying to empty the sea with a strainer.
The fact is, these dogs should have never been in the pound in the first place. Until mandatory microchipping is brought in, spaying & neutering is hammered home, people don't let their dogs out to walk themselves and take responsibility for them, puppy farms & backyard breeders are stopped, until the government stand up & take responsibility for the digrace that is animal welfare in this country, these figures won't really change.
Put pen to paper & let them see we're not prepared to let these destruction rates continue.

SuzyS1972

Absolutely Cotton - loads and loads of purebreeds end up in pounds - don't any of you be fooled into thinking these were all mutts !

From personal experience the purebreeds get re-homed from pounds easier and from rescue centres.
There are also an awful lot of good breed rescues out there helping these dogs too .

EGAR

You can find anything in the pounds, PBs, pups, mothers with pups of any breed or crossbreed.