Childers road shopping center

Pacifico

What the hell is with the entrance/exit to this place?!!!

You'd wonder what the guy who designed it was smoking at the time, probably the same stuff the guy who approved it was

bazz26

Pacifico wrote:

What the hell is with the entrance/exit to this place?!!!

You'd wonder what the guy who designed it was smoking at the time, probably the same stuff the guy who approved it was

Or more so what were the City Council thinking when they granted them planning permission for it? - revenue generated from rates me thinks.

Incidently at most peak weekend times the traffic lights are switched off and a garda is there directing traffic in and out.

And planning permission is being sought for another retail park in the area. :rolleyes:

hobie

What the hell is with the entrance/exit to this place?!!!

hang on and I'll, get the old satellite to pop over and have a look ....

you can see the Parkway and Homebase etc at middle/top of picture ....

towards the bottom of the photo you can see the shopping centre and right in the middle is both the entry and exit .....

I've never tried to get in and out over a weekend because I never remember to take a good book to read while I'm waiting in the traffic ques in/out of the place ...... :rolleyes: but it's tolerable during weekdays ....

(edit .... oh bugger ... you said "What" ... not "where" .... )

sioda

The place is a disaster I cant even face it on the weekend

MarkR

Terrible all right, even if you do get into the place, the way they have a stop juction at the end of the entrance road is a bit dim. Traffic leaving the place from the maplins side cause people entering the car park to wait. Halfwits!

As with all things in life (til I actually attempt them) I can say with confidence that I, or any number of willing monkeys, could have done better.

Karmafaerie

hobie wrote:

I can see my house!:D

1huge1

zoom out until you can see the south east of the county and i can say the same

can someone explain to me how they think they could of done it better? best with a bad situation no?

hobie

can someone explain to me how they think they could of done it better?

well if they had the entrance up at the north end (Homebase direction) and exit at the south (fast food KFC? end) or visa versa it would have worked better ..... and certainly not have that single $$$$$$ entrance/exit road that ends up outside the new Dunnes creating total grid-lock:(

one single "T" junction ..... to do this ..... :eek:

with cars coming in and wanting to turn right

with cars coming in and wanting to turn left

cars wanting to go from north to south end of carpark

cars wanting to go from south to north end of carpark

cars trying to get out from north end

cars trying to get out from south end

let alone the $$$$$$ joy riders !!!! .... :eek:

Pikasso

I agree. The planning of this car park is absolutely ludicrous.
I always thought the Crescent Shopping Centre was bad until I drove in here last year. I never go to Childers Road SC unless I absolutely have to (which is about twice a year) because of the stupid layout.
Speaking of the Crescent - can you imagine an out of towner going to the McDonalds Drive through for the first time and trying to get out of the complex again!!! :eek:

MarkR

Pikasso wrote:

can you imagine an out of towner going to the McDonalds Drive through for the first time and trying to get out of the complex again!!! :eek:

Believe it or not, that's how raheen developed. People drove out to see McDonalds and experience the drive through. They then found themselves unable to leave the car park. Luckily there was a few builders and vans etc, and they built some crude shelters - eventually becoming Dooradoyle.

MarkR

Pikasso wrote:

can you imagine an out of towner going to the McDonalds Drive through for the first time and trying to get out of the complex again!!! :eek:

Believe it or not, that's how the area developed. People drove out to see McDonalds and experience the drive through. They then found themselves unable to leave the car park. Luckily there was a few builders and vans etc, and they built some crude shelters - eventually becoming Dooradoyle.

1huge1

fair enough hobie you clearly have given it a lot more thought than I have
but do you really think the planners never forseen this happening or were they restricted by laws (dont ask me)

bazz26

1huge1 wrote:

fair enough hobie you clearly have given it a lot more thought than I have
but do you really think the planners never forseen this happening or were they restricted by laws (dont ask me)

The stretch of Childer's road from the Parkway roundabout down to the Tipperary roundabout has always been a notorious bottle neck even well before this retail park was ever conceived. I cannot imagine adding a retail park to the area was ever going to make things better.

When it comes to getting planning permission for these developments it seems money talks more than common sense.

CarewParkAFC

I work in the Dunnes on the Childers Road, and i'll give ye a bit of advice.

Stay well clear from it on saturdays btwn 12-6 and sundays btwn 2-8

The rest of the time its pretty handy all round.

Mr E

I'd also say any time of the day after December 1st!
(I'll be going to the gym early in the morning, and won't be going near the place any time after that)

ninty9er

Might seem a bit excessive to some but a tunnel going in right and a flyover coming out right would alleviate a lot of problems here, but then there's the coming out left and in left filters which cause headaches because they've no space to join the stream of traffic

motormouthmable

get a bus!

ROTFL
LOL

hobie

I think if I was living around there and was doing my shopping there I would get a Moped ...... with Pannier bags of course .....

or a Horse ......

bazz26

Or just go to the Parkway, not as many going into that Dunnes Stores as the new one.

If I need something from the other shops in the retail park I can walk to them as I only live around the corner.

Beta Bill

I notice that you have to turn left upon entering the car park now. This makes the place one way upon entry and is working well in my opinion. No amount of Gardai, green traffic light sequence, exits will make any difference if the main road outside is congested.

This is bad planning at its finest and yes obviously money talks, sure isn't that why Charlie J was living like a lord for the remainder of his days....

MarkR

I think that was short lived, wasn't there today. Did have a cop directing traffic though. Was pretty busy but moving all right. One entrance exit. Genius.

Karmafaerie

hobie wrote:

I think if I was living around there and was doing my shopping there I would get a Moped ...... with Pannier bags of course .....

or a Horse ......

Somebody riding a horse on Childers road!
There's a novel idea!;)

db

I experienced "car park hell" in this shopping centre last Friday evening. I was trying to get to Atlantic and the entrance from Childer's Rd was a bit busy so I went up to the back entrance opposite the GAA club. No problem getting in here so in I went and up along the top of the car park and turned down towards the main road across the front of the shops. This is when the problems started. There was absolutely no movement of cars out of the carpark from the Argos side. After about 10 minutes I turned around to try and get onto the exit road further back but it was the same all the way back. I decided to try and get out the back entrance but when I went there the cars coming in were joining the queue to get out. After another 10 minutes of no movement I spoke to the drivers of the other cars and told them there was no point trying to get in there. We agreed that everyone should reverse out the entrance and try the front entrance if they still wanted to get in. I felt sorry for anyone who had finished their shopping and had loads of frozen food melting in the bags while they sat there.

NewsWire

apparently there was chaos again there yesterday evening.

MarkR

I heard that on the traffic report as well. Gardai requesting people avoid the area, and that the cause was bad planning? Anyone else hear that?

dv

MarkR wrote:

I heard that on the traffic report as well. Gardai requesting people avoid the area, and that the cause was bad planning? Anyone else hear that?

I think 95fm had it as their top story on Wednesday morning.

bluemachaveli

Im workin in Maplin and i swear the traffic setup is just pathetic.
I spend most days watchin it thankfully enough. They need another exit onto the Blood Mill Rd. and a slip rd Towards the Roundabout.

Also if u find urself shoppin please don't whine to us about the traffic.
We didn't design it.

bazz26

bluemachavel wrote:

They need another exit onto the Blood Mill Rd. and a slip rd Towards the Roundabout.

They were denied planning permission to build an entrance\exit onto the Bloodmill Road due to an objection by local residence. That road is too narrow and is surrounded by housing estates. It is already used by muppets as a highspeed shortcut from the Tipperary road to Childer's road.

That retail park should not have been located there in the first place. That stretch of road was a traffic nightmare ever before that development was conceived. The area of land and existing road was never big enough for a proper entrance and exit. Your average man on the street could have seen it only getting worse. Just goes to show you that there are other things rather than common sense talking down at the traffic management department of the City Council. Either that or they really are a very incompetent bunch of people.

And just to make things worse Aldi are building a new store on the Dublin road just up from the Groody bridge opposite Singland Motors. :rolleyes:

Poxyshamrock

A new road was proposed to be built from where KFC is onto the Tipperary Rounabout. The Travellers have refused to move though even though its not their land anymore.