So who else is sick of shell to sea?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

fluffer wrote:

On reflection, I guess what I was trying to say is that I hate gardai and I hate hippies. Its just that I REALLY REALLY REALLY hate hippies. F**cking hippies!

And middle aged opinionated schoolteachers with agendas. I have issues.

And how many hippies do you know? And now many middle aged opinionated schoolteachers do you know?

Diogenes

J.R.HARTLEY wrote:

like for like obviously,
you just keep telling yourself your right,
btw the way you so vehemently object to anyone who doesn't agree with you or your points would stir suspicions that maybe your not a casual observer

Wow nice, because you've not vehmently held your point of view.

You can claim I'm "not a casual observer" I am, I'm not a resident of rossport. I could cynically suggest you attitude and your bosterous defence of the Garda and abusive tone would suggest you have some ulterior motive for your defence of Garda and Shell. Particularly your attitude to claiming workers during the 1913 lockout were right to commit violent civil disobedience while the Shell protestors are commin thugs your failing to adhere to a injunction.

But hey, sauce for the goose eh?

Ronoc I don't doubt indymedia is biased, however I feel all media is biased and the attitude that because a paper is printed broadsheet it is more trustworthy. One needs to only look at the rantings of Jim Cusack in the Sindo, and the bizarre suggestions he makes, to be cynical of all media.

jimmycrackcorm

How does that teacher one get away with taking sick leave. She didn't look very sick to me on the news.

I'd love to be able to take sick leave for a protesting jaunt myself, but unfortunately I work in the private sector.

admiralofthefleet

lockon... wrote:

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong! I hate this leftist propaganda. Heres what Noel Demsey said:

‘‘The interconnectors [pipes used to bring gas from Ireland to Britain] are only designed to operate in one way. They could be changed but that would require Ireland to be fully self-sufficient in gas.”

This is a Fact. Given Russia has doubled its gas prices to Georgia, the corrib gas field will give Ireland much needed secuirty when these increases are passed down to us.

Anways, how the protesters enjoyed their hiding!:D

its not my propaganda, its just what i saw. im surprised you have so much belief in noel 'navan railway' dempsey

ArphaRima

And how many hippies do you know? And now many middle aged opinionated schoolteachers do you know?

Ok. So I know 5 Gardai personally. 3 Hippies and about 5 schoolteachers, 1 of whom fits the description.
I disagree with just about everything hippies say, they lack all ability to fit ideals into real policies.
Four out of the five gardai I know are somewhat lacking in mental capacity, and have been given a smidge of power. They are assholes. One of them is a good bloke from a career garda family.

What did the Gardai ever do to you ? I hate it when people say stupid ****e such as "oh its the Pigs"

I am not getting into a debate about gardai here. But I can cite the mayday riots as example. My friends who were media students at the time saw and recorded what happened. I saw their unedited footage. Gardai without badges, downright belligerent gardai etc. (the RTE footage was from their classmates) The subsequent investigations where no garda could recognise any of the gardai involved from the videotape. Great accountability. Thats one major example of why I love the gardai.

etc i love to rub it in but this place would be way worse if they were not around, who would ya go run to then

Because there are no other options does not mean I cannot complain, decry, criticize, and call for reform in the force we currently have.
Nobody can say take it or leave it for any public service. If the people are unhappy it is the service that must change. This is a democracy.
Then again somebody named after a military rifle may not get the subtle differences in government. You wouldnt happen to be in the armed forces now would you?

\m/_(>_<)_\m/

Diogenes wrote:

Media is biased full stop. Indymedia will give you the undiluted version of the protestors point of view, to try and claim a website cannot report facts and is inherantly biased, is a sweeping generalisation.

erm.... sorry now diogenes.
but one point of view is biased and one undiluted point of view is inherently biased.

http://www.wordwebonline.com/search.pl?w=biased

Diogenes

\m/_(>_<)_\m/ wrote:

erm.... sorry now diogenes.
but one point of view is biased and one undiluted point of view is inherently biased.

http://www.wordwebonline.com/search.pl?w=biased

Wow did the point whistle when it flew over your head?

A poster claimed that indymedia was biased, and that for an unbiased opinion he recommended people should read the broadsheets like the indo or the times. I pointed out that all media is biased and claiming one isn't, is a joke. But hey you missed that.

\m/_(>_<)_\m/

Diogenes wrote:

I pointed out that all media is biased and claiming one isn't, is a joke.

always remember, look behind you when back peddling.:p

\m/_(>_<)_\m/

Wexfordian2006 wrote:

The Provos have a hand in the protests judging by Sunday World coverage. McDowell has an opportunity now to bash them again.

sure i wouldn't be surprised if combat 18 were over for the conflict as well.

weather is getting cold now....time for the water cannons.
that will soon move the hippies and crusties on to a more comfortable/hospitable protest somewhere else.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Wexfordian2006 wrote:

The Provos have a hand in the protests judging by Sunday World coverage

Now THERE'S where your post lost all credibility....

kevmy

Ikky Poo2 wrote:

Now THERE'S where your post lost all credibility....

LOL too true, too true.
They're right on this occasion though. Their is a SF councillor from Mayo who is now supporting the Rossport 5 but stayed away at the outset until he got word from headquarters to join up with them. There are also recruitment drives in NUIG to bus people up to Rossport. This is run by the Anti-War Alliance in the college which is run, in the main, by SF and other loony lefters in the college.

Blackjack

kevmy wrote:

They're right on this occasion though. Their is a SF councillor from Mayo who is now supporting the Rossport 5 but stayed away at the outset until he got word from headquarters to join up with them.

I find that hard to believe that any SF councillor stayed away, given one of the Rossport 5 has been a lifetime supporter and I believe member of Sinn Fein, and I know for a fact that some if not all of his Children (all grown up now) are Sinn Fein supporters - one I believe is the Chairperson (or whatever their equivalent would be) for Mayo SF.

I'm not a supporter of SF before anyone decides to level any accusations of same in my direction.

gurramok

Is this justified?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVCwX5zXcg

Ste.phen

gurramok wrote:

Is this justified?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVCwX5zXcg

I dunno, what's the context?
it's mislabled too, says 'punched' instead of 'pushed'

afatbollix

lol what a twat... teh girl not the cop... he just pushed her into the ditch not punched her.. and then the tears... i loved the voice saying go home and beat up the wife....

****ing knobs all of them protesters and should be ran from the area... the cops should raid the place all the time checking for pot... and arrest people for breach of the peace... all of them.. park about 20 prision vans beside the protests and shout anyone on the road in 5 mins will be arressted...

searally thinking about doing a video against the protesters.... i have a polish in my class and hes against shell.. and i had a good argument about it... yet hes from poland living in dublin and is complaining about shell in mayo.... twat and id say most of the protesters arent even from mayo....

Steyr

gurramok wrote:

Is this justified?

YES.

ArphaRima

yet hes from poland living in dublin and is complaining about shell in mayo.... twat

Anto - Believe it or not him not being a citizen of Ireland does not mean he cannot have an opinion about irish affairs. Nor does it make your point more valid than his.
It just so happens I disagree with him.

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gurramok wrote:

Is this justified?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVCwX5zXcg

yes it is... did she have to resist. i would have locked her up for a week or two.

she would be good on and italian soccer team with a dive like that.

sunnyjim

She does look like she was pushed, and not punched.

kevmy

Blackjack wrote:

I find that hard to believe that any SF councillor stayed away,

I know but he did stay away initially, in an offical capacity at least, he may have been there as a private citizen. Then soon after the guys came ouuta jail and Central Command saw the way the wind was blowing they were all over it.

kevmy

gurramok wrote:

Is this justified?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVCwX5zXcg

Yep she broke the law by attempting to go past the Garda barricade. After that pretty much all bets are off. It'd be more in her line to have some respect for the law of the Irish State (not Shell's Law as she calls it) instead of calling the cop, who's only doing his job, a wife beater.

lemansky

kevmy wrote:

Yep she broke the law by attempting to go past the Garda barricade. After that pretty much all bets are off. It'd be more in her line to have some respect for the law of the Irish State (not Shell's Law as she calls it) instead of calling the cop, who's only doing his job, a wife beater.

Totally.As I've said on youtube,and elsewhere if you do something,or are part of a group who does something against the guards then you expect to be dealt with.She can't hide behind anything.Saying what she said made her look even more stupid.People can't see this though as elsewhere when i've mentioned this I've been shouted down by people who are frankly suffering from tunnel vision.

skywalker_208

admiralofthefleet wrote:

ireland as a nation is opposed to development, look at the second runway at dublin airport, greystones harbour, ballsbridge, the sandyford tower, corrib etc...

the M3....... !!!!!!!!!

Damn Hippy protesters!

seriously though.. have to agree with you 100%, if they had their way we would still be all out in the bogs cutting turf by hand and riding around on bicycles wearing grandad caps!

drunken_munky52

They say they are against it now becuase Ireland gave its resources away to Shell, trying to copperfasten their NIMBY policy.

We don't live in a regime state, therefore its normal that private investment would get this anyway. If they didnt, then our government would be exactly like the Russians and Saudis, who think they can turn on and off the tap as they choose.

Shell to sea are just a load of hippy tree hugging crusties, with no jobs who have nothing to do. They even have the IRA on board, further proof that when people have nothing to do, they look for any fight.

kumate_champ07

padi89 wrote: »

I would have thrown the fecker over too and gave him a rap on the head with me batton.Im sick of hearing about it all now and when i saw the likes of Swampy Eco Warrior Crustys sitting on the road on the news last night i thought "ah well there goes all credibility".

why dont you get a security job down there then? the pay is really good

CianRyan

I got sick of it a few years back when Anti Flag tried to get people to chant "shell to sea" when they played Taste Of Chaos.
It made me sick, i payed for music, not a bloody shell to mother fúcking sea fúcking rally.

Ugggh.