US troops taunt Iraqi kids

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This is pretty disgusting. I wonder if we'll hear anything more of this.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=26262&in_page_id=34

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Hobbes

sh!t like this doesn't help anyone and certainly doesn't help the soliders who are there and just doing a job.

flogen

While I do agree that the actions in the video are pretty despicable, I have to ask; why is anyone surprised?

You can't expect an army trained to kill to be compasionate peace keepers, you can't expect to lower the bottom-line for recruits and not see negative effects (the bottom line exists for a reason) and you can't expect humanity to always survive the atmosphere of the country and the army itself.

Not condoning anything by any stretch of the imagination, just pointing out that incidents like this should be expected by the US; they may not be Army policy, as such, but they can't keep saying this is an isolated and unique occourance.

Hobbes

flogen wrote:

You can't expect an army trained to kill to be compasionate peace keepers

Not sure about US troops but UK troops are actually trained in peace-keeping.

philologos

to be honest it doesn't surprise me considering a few weeks ago a group of US soldiers raped a 14 year old girl and killed her and her family for fun.

silverharp

More hearts and minds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdpoiazTyDc&NR

American soldier is obviously disappointed that he is not allowed to shoot ‘little kids’ who throw rocks at his vehicle.

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Rock Climber

Dispicable? Yes.
Majority behaviour of their armed forces? No

The majority behaviour never makes news but conclusions convenient to political viewpoints are of course always easily drawn from examples of minority behaviour.

silverharp

Rock Climber wrote:

Dispicable? Yes.
Majority behaviour of their armed forces? No

The majority behaviour never makes news but conclusions convenient to political viewpoints are of course always easily drawn from examples of minority behaviour.

true, the bigger point though is that the US policy is a complete failure, the fact that kids will run after a bottle of water is a more telling fact then the actions of a few goons.

Manic Moran

to be honest it doesn't surprise me considering a few weeks ago a group of US soldiers raped a 14 year old girl and killed her and her family for fun.

More examples of military brutality on kids, which I personally witnessed.

My driver physically torturing and abusing a local kid while another looks on helplessly


My medic contemplates which one to rape.


My driver kidnaps two kids out of a bunch.


My wingman's driver taunts kids.


Local kids instructing us to "sit on this and swivel"


Local girls each indicating how many times evil Americans have raped them

Note we have given the kid in the back some cracked cocaine.


Local kids after we threw them in the irrigation canal


Local kids have been indoctrinated. We shall turn them into little militaristic killers, all it took was a bottle of water...


Demonstrating their contempt, local kids attempt to poison my platoon sergeant.

My PSG reacts as he realises their evil deed.


At gunpoint, we demand that they exchange us what little good, tasty food they have in return for their taking our horrible ration packs.


My wingman being swamped by locals. Note the defiant local giving the "Power" salute. Our machinegun shortly afterwards opened up to keep them away, killing dozens.



Fearing another evil assault by the tanks, kids form a human barrier to stop the tank from entering town

It was for naught, however. See, how the kids scream in pain as our tank runs over them. Note the blond guy, proof, in a dark-haired Arab country, that evil American soldiers have been raping.


Gunner on another platoon's vehicle taunted kids by throwing sweets out.


The Pied Piper of Mosul, an infantryman, leads kids away to their impending doom...


We corralled dozens of them.


Any questions?

Actually, the Iraqi kids could be extremely annoying. We were always on good terms with them, but dear God, we got sick of having them keep coming up saying "Meesta! Meesta! Give me (whatever)"

On the level of Abu Ghraib or other such travesties, I don't think the guys throwing a bottle of water out to the strongest runner is really going to turn the populace. (Indeed, it would have been much worse had he not thrown the bottle out at the end)

fact that kids will run after a bottle of water is a more telling fact then the actions of a few goons.

Trust me, they'd run after the truck if you dangled a three-day-old newspaper out the back. Sometimes not even dangling anything at all. They began to view gifts from Americans as an entitlement, indeed, sometimes if you gave no indication that you'd give anything at all, they'd throw rocks at you. What was amusing though was when the adults would then throw rocks at the kids.

"Bravo this is two zero, i now have a broken windshield, Thank you for not authorising force"

The Beauty of American Imperialism.

Couple of warning shots wouldn't have gone amiss. A rock upside the head is going to injure you if it's thrown by a kid or an adult. A lot of those trucks didn't have side windows.

NTM

Glenbhoy

Hobbes wrote:

Not sure about US troops but UK troops are actually trained in peace-keeping.

Must be a recent development, cos from my twenty odd years of experience of them, they didn't seem to have attended those peace-keeping lectures!!

sovtek

Manic Moran wrote:

More examples of military brutality on kids, which I personally witnessed.

My driver physically torturing and abusing a local kid while another looks on helplessly


My medic contemplates which one to rape.


My driver kidnaps two kids out of a bunch.


My wingman's driver taunts kids.


Local kids instructing us to "sit on this and swivel"


Local girls each indicating how many times evil Americans have raped them

Note we have given the kid in the back some cracked cocaine.


Local kids after we threw them in the irrigation canal


Local kids have been indoctrinated. We shall turn them into little militaristic killers, all it took was a bottle of water...


Demonstrating their contempt, local kids attempt to poison my platoon sergeant.

My PSG reacts as he realises their evil deed.


At gunpoint, we demand that they exchange us what little good, tasty food they have in return for their taking our horrible ration packs.


My wingman being swamped by locals. Note the defiant local giving the "Power" salute. Our machinegun shortly afterwards opened up to keep them away, killing dozens.



Fearing another evil assault by the tanks, kids form a human barrier to stop the tank from entering town

It was for naught, however. See, how the kids scream in pain as our tank runs over them. Note the blond guy, proof, in a dark-haired Arab country, that evil American soldiers have been raping.


Gunner on another platoon's vehicle taunted kids by throwing sweets out.


The Pied Piper of Mosul, an infantryman, leads kids away to their impending doom...


We corralled dozens of them.


Any questions?

Actually, the Iraqi kids could be extremely annoying. We were always on good terms with them, but dear God, we got sick of having them keep coming up saying "Meesta! Meesta! Give me (whatever)"

On the level of Abu Ghraib or other such travesties, I don't think the guys throwing a bottle of water out to the strongest runner is really going to turn the populace. (Indeed, it would have been much worse had he not thrown the bottle out at the end)


Trust me, they'd run after the truck if you dangled a three-day-old newspaper out the back. Sometimes not even dangling anything at all. They began to view gifts from Americans as an entitlement, indeed, sometimes if you gave no indication that you'd give anything at all, they'd throw rocks at you. What was amusing though was when the adults would then throw rocks at the kids.



Couple of warning shots wouldn't have gone amiss. A rock upside the head is going to injure you if it's thrown by a kid or an adult. A lot of those trucks didn't have side windows.

NTM

This is further evidence that the war is lost and backs up points already made about dehumanising the occupier as well as the occupied.

Hobbes

http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/teatank2.JPG

That haircut should be made a warcrime.

sovtek

Manic Moran wrote:

Couple of warning shots wouldn't have gone amiss. A rock upside the head is going to injure you if it's thrown by a kid or an adult. A lot of those trucks didn't have side windows.

NTM

...and then what if those warning shots weren't heeded?

Hobbes

sovtek wrote:

...and then what if those warning shots weren't heeded?

Lots of new possible darwin award winners?

Manic Moran

Hobbes wrote:

That haircut should be made a warcrime.

I have to say, I'm not a particular fan of what is considered 'vogue' in the US Army. I probably have one of the longest haircuts in the military, though still well within regs.

NTM

clearz

Hobbes wrote:

Not sure about US troops but UK troops are actually trained in peace-keeping.

Yeah they did a good job of that for 40 years up the north :rolleyes:. Anyway what does people expect. For them to be running round showering the kids in flowers. These people are trained (brainwashed) killers. They thought to supress empathy and this is a demonstraition of the results.

Manic Moran

These people are trained (brainwashed) killers. They thought to supress empathy

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civdef

No seriously, "Suppressing Empathy" is a two week module during basic training. It means less time is available for the "Bayonetting Civilians" module than might be considered ideal, but it's a vital subject to cover.